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Old 11-05-2020, 10:57 AM   #58426
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Good analogy. The thing is a president is supposed to be the head ref not a coach.
SCOTUS is head ref.

Throw the red flag if you need to. Just don't storm the field demanding the game is over while time remains on the clock.

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You're usually pretty level-headed, but c'mon man.

You're telling people to ignore stuff because it doesn't affect you. Even if it does affect them.
People getting triggered because of words anyone says is more telling of that person. I don't care if Trump comes out and says the most outrageous thing (like he won the election), they are words at the end of the day.
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Because they are just words. He can't make or change laws.
Words can be extremely powerful. People do listen to his every words, language is one of the most powerful things we have. Just because you don’t listen to his words doesn’t mean everyone does the same
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Well, he is free to take that issue up in court. In the meantime, votes will be counted.

President Trump does not get to make the rules. He does not get to tell PA how to run their state. He can challenge in court, because that is our way. Aside from that, his rhetoric is simply irrelevant.

I have no idea if the republicans have a legit beef here or not. I hope no states are violating the sanctity of our democracy and I have a hard time believing in any impactful conspiracy to that end. It simply would involve too many moving parts to be impactful.

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I never said he did get to make the rules. I simply pointed out his issue with PA. Tte legislature of PA gets to do make the rules and they did and then the governor changed what they all voted on after the fact. That's an issue. Unless I misunderstand something, that's a huge issue.

In Trumps defense he threw a fit about it before the votes ever started being counted.
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SCOTUS is head ref.

Throw the red flag if you need to. Just don't storm the field demanding the game is over while time remains on the clock.

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That's what I was thinking.

The field might be stormed by both sides at this point.
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No matter the results, I'm afraid that the side that lost will almost certainly not accept the results. Both sides will claim it was stolen, and I think they both could make pretty compelling arguments. This is a disaster.
Wrong. Social media clowns won't accept the result. The loudest mouths on social media are nothing but attention seeking morons who will say anything to get it. I am a Trump supporter. Have been since the escalator ride. Had never voted until the GOP state primary in 2016. I vote a straight party ticket because I am a single issue voter. If Biden wins, so be it. Life goes on. It will be okay.
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I also wanted to say that I believe fully that these voting discrepancies such as voter registration numbers not matching actual votes, dead citizens voting, double voting etc happen every single election. I am sure 99% of it is unintentional or human error etc. It usually doesn't matter so we don't hear much about it. But in an election so close that those minor errors could change the outcome one way or another it really sucks. I think as a country we need to do a better job with elections. Especially with the technology and resources we have today. The margin of error should be basically zero especially when we need to buckle down and verify and double check everything.

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I'm sorry, but imagine a world where we have to discard most of what a President says and people are okay with that. Not just okay, but voted for him a second time.

There are as many people who voted for Biden because he isn't Trump as there are people who voted for Trump because he's the Republican.
I don't believe that for 1 second.
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Funny how the name calling in here today is from the left.
So you are saying there is nothing new today?
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You're only supposed to take Trump literally sometimes. Not when it sounds stupid, only when it sounds kind of stupid. Or when it literally is stupid. Or when it's actually correct. But not when it's stupid.



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People getting triggered because of words anyone says is more telling of that person. I don't care if Trump comes out and says the most outrageous thing (like he won the election), they are words at the end of the day.
You're confusing people being "triggered" with "things than actually make a difference in their lives".
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I don't take anything Trump says seriously. I take what he does seriously.

But I also do this for every person I interact with in life, so maybe that's why I'm capable of doing something so many others appear to be incapable of.
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People getting triggered because of words anyone says is more telling of that person. I don't care if Trump comes out and says the most outrageous thing (like he won the election), they are words at the end of the day.
The Declaration of Independence is words.

We like words. We have the best words.

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Two wrongs don't make a right, they just continue down the road of nothing changing.
He is right though..itd only be fair and poetic justice that they run biden or Harris through the ringer for the next 4 years ad nauseam. Trump actually did do a great deal for this country, imagine would he could have accomplished if the left didn't start off with a huge hoax about Russia etc and all the BS through his presidency. I do fully expect an investigation in some of these states and if it's found to be Biden won legit, then he won, whatever, life goes on. You may have a few really upset republicans but it'll pass because we're not whiny little babies. I doubt you'll see any destruction or a ton of social media outrage. If its fair we grin and bear it and try better next time. But Mike isn't wrong with what he said, i just think republicans are better than that. Many dems should take a look.
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I don't take anything Trump says seriously. I take what he does seriously.

But I also do this for every person I interact with in life, so maybe that's why I'm capable of doing something so many others appear to be incapable of.
Its this.
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I never said he did get to make the rules. I simply pointed out his issue with PA. Tte legislature of PA gets to do make the rules and they did and then the governor changed what they all voted on after the fact. That's an issue. Unless I misunderstand something, that's a huge issue.



In Trumps defense he threw a fit about it before the votes ever started being counted.
Fair enough.

Like I said, I'm not sure if they have a legit beef or not.

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I don't take anything Trump says seriously. I take what he does seriously.

But I also do this for every person I interact with in life, so maybe that's why I'm capable of doing something so many others appear to be incapable of.
The high horse is pretty high today, eh?

You're smart enough to know that words can provoke action. Action affects people. People get affected by action whether or not then even agree with it.

You're dismissing human psychology by saying people are dumb.
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People getting triggered because of words anyone says is more telling of that person. I don't care if Trump comes out and says the most outrageous thing (like he won the election), they are words at the end of the day.
Well he is saying things to undermine the confidence in the election. And it’s working among enough of his supporters. It’s not nothing.
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I don't take anything Trump says seriously. I take what he does seriously.

But I also do this for every person I interact with in life, so maybe that's why I'm capable of doing something so many others appear to be incapable of.
Exactly.
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Well he is saying things to undermine the confidence in the election. And it’s working among enough of his supporters. It’s not nothing.
It's not nothing because people are hanging on his words, which is what I've been saying.
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He is right though..itd only be fair and poetic justice that they run biden or Harris through the ringer for the next 4 years ad nauseam. Trump actually did do a great deal for this country, imagine would he could have accomplished if the left didn't start off with a huge hoax about Russia etc and all the BS through his presidency. I do fully expect an investigation in some of these states and if it's found to be Biden won legit, then he won, whatever, life goes on. You may have a few really upset republicans but it'll pass because we're not whiny little babies. I doubt you'll see any destruction or a ton of social media outrage. If its fair we grin and bear it and try better next time. But Mike isn't wrong with what he said, i just think republicans are better than that. Many dems should take a look.
He's right if you believe in promoting tribalistic us-vs-them nonsense, which, seems right up your alley.
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The high horse is pretty high today, eh?

You're smart enough to know that words can provoke action. Action affects people. People get affected by action whether or not then even agree with it.

You're dismissing human psychology by saying people are dumb.
People are dumb though
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