2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[yanksfan1]

Fox is in a conundrum because their misguided and premature AZ, if NV now becomes clear for Biden, don't they have to call the election for Biden? I still haven't seen a good explanation for why they haven't retracted the AZ call outside of personal pride

[lionsfan20]

Originally Posted by Eckstein197

Here’s the thing, Trump pushed his followers not to vote via mail, to vote in person. Those votes are counted first. He hasn’t benefitted from a big vote drop because a majority of these vote drops are mail in votes.



So why would Trump get a huge mail in vote addition when he specifically told republicans to vote in person, not via mail?

To be fair Trump and republicans in general have a large following of seniors. One group that is specifically high risk for covid. So it is not totally crazy to think that many of them ignored the push to vote in person and voted by mail possibly very early as well. Obviously that doesn't seem to be the case given how the count is coming in lately for Biden. But it is plausible.

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[discostu]

Originally Posted by Astros19

I think this is an interesting topic and it appears as though there are different opinions on it. (shocking I know)
Here's a couple of links that I have been reading.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...e-conservative
https://theconversation.com/hard-evi...with-age-47910
https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/do...ournalCode=jop
https://www.insidehook.com/article/p...oting-patterns

Personally I tend to believe the things that are important to one can and does change their way of thinking as they get older.
I'll use myself as an example.
I'm at the age where I'm close to retirement and take my retirement saving very seriously.
I know I didn't pay much attention to retirement at a young age and to be honest, wish I had.

One of my favorite writers is PJ O'Rourke, and he's basically made his career off of his personal shift, so I absolutely get it.

For me personally, I've never wavered...but I fall into the middle of moderate Dems and moderate GOP. I've never been a single issue voter. But my personal story is irrelevant.

It's like being told that 9 out of 10 people survive a surgery. That means nothing if you're the 1. To your family, it's 1 out of 1 dies.

While I'd be surprised if I shifted too much in my leanings, anything is possible.

[BGT Masters]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

You think 30k pieces of paper is a moving truck full?

Picture 30,000 baseball cards the size of a normal piece of paper. You're not losing those in the couch cushions.

[discostu]

Originally Posted by yanksfan1

Fox is in a conundrum because their misguided and premature AZ, if NV now becomes clear for Biden, don't they have to call the election for Biden? I still haven't seen a good explanation for why they haven't retracted the AZ call outside of personal pride

Exactly.

Fox really did themselves no favors here, this is not their finest moment and it's a pinnacle moment.

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by BGT Masters

Picture 30,000 baseball cards the size of a normal piece of paper. You're not losing those in the couch cushions.

Didn't answer the question but ok.

[silverandblack]

Originally Posted by Dielon

My hopeful candidates for 2024- in my opinion the best way for the country forward on both sides.
I would say Tulsi Gabbard on the left. Clearly the most sane person in the party. The mainstream left hates her- she destroyed Kamala which already gives her points in my book. Anti war candidate, she isnt a puppet like Biden.
and- as much as I dislike mainstream news... Tucker Carlson. If he ran I think he would have a great shot and would be way more articulate than Trump and knows the issues.
Now you can scoff at these choices and tell me im crazy.

The Dems will most likely run Harris or AOC I’d bet. The Republicans should give Dan Crenshaw a shot

[Americards]

it is so close, we are in the world of easily hurt feelings, so we should have

co-Presidents
Trump for Republican states and Harris for Democratic states!

[BGT Masters]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Didn't answer the question but ok.

That's because you didn't ask me the question, you asked and quoted someone else. If you want me to answer the question directed at someone else I will answer it. Its not a moving truck full no. However it the ballots are like the one I filled out you're not fitting them in the trunk of your car. They'd fill the bed of my pick up.

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by silverandblack

The Dems will most likely run Harris or AOC I’d bet. The Republicans should give Dan Crenshaw a shot

Both sides have to do a better job of putting a good candidate out there in 4 years. The Dems didn't want Harris this year or they would have picked her. So going with "leftovers" again in 4 years won't help anything. Both sides need fresh candidates.

The Democrats did not vote for Biden because they believe in him. They voted for him because they hate Trump. That won't work in 4 years. Same on the other side. Someone like Mitt Romney is not who needs to be presented. I would vote for a Nikki Haley ticket with Trey Gowdy as her VP. That would be awesome. Assuming Biden's dementia gets worse and Harris becomes president she will run for re-election and it will be a woman vs woman election. That would throw a lot of rules out the window and be a blast.

[thenwhatjk]

Originally Posted by asujbl

I only trust people from Cobb County in Georgia

Specifically the Big Bossman

[Hootiefish]

Originally Posted by yanksfan1

Fox is in a conundrum because their misguided and premature AZ, if NV now becomes clear for Biden, don't they have to call the election for Biden? I still haven't seen a good explanation for why they haven't retracted the AZ call outside of personal pride

I feel like they are going to wait to call Nevada until Arizona is confirmed for Biden by other agencies. That way they won't need to retract their original call.

However, if Arizona goes to Trump, they'll retract and then call Nevada, thus preventing a premature presidential call.

[Brobocop]

Tucker Carlson? You mean the guy who had to admit that his show is basically for entertainment purposes only? Yeah, okay. He'd have as much of a chance as someone like Candice Owens. A name I don't hear too often is Ron DeSantis. Governor background, can probably easily clinch up Florida, and the right likes him a lot. That'd be my dark horse in a world where it seems like Nikki Haley is the presumptuous front runner.

[fadster]

PA SoS says the expect to count the outstanding c550k votes today and hopefully have a result by the eod.

[Onepocketj]

PA at 111k with 11% to go

[yanksfan1]

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/tr...-to-biden-nyt/

Some of you said I was crazy for suggesting Trump would run in 2024

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

PA at 111k with 11% to go

Again, no.

94% of the state has been counted; almost 95%. We're well under 11% remaining (and not moving much at all).

[NeedChapmans]

LOL, Nevada says they're done w/ numbers today; will post more tomorrow.

The 26k they posted over the last two days really took it out of 'em.

[pac213up]

550K ballots left to count in PA....this is fun.

[silverandblack]

Originally Posted by yanksfan1

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/tr...-to-biden-nyt/

Some of you said I was crazy for suggesting Trump would run in 2024

I mean it’s not a terrible plan on his part, let the democrats run things into the ground and then pop up and say told you so.

I think I’m 4 years the Republicans will be looking for a better candidate then Trump and will have moved on at that point to better options

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Again, no.

94% of the state has been counted; almost 95%. We're well under 11% remaining (and not moving much at all).

Again, yes
That's what AP is showing and they've been accurate so far.

[silverandblack]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

LOL, Nevada says they're done w/ numbers today; will post more tomorrow.

The 26k they posted over the last two days really took it out of 'em.

It’s really incredible that much bigger states with many more mail ins have been able to do this quickly and efficiently and yet they are saying they seem to be in no rush

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by fadster

PA SoS says the expect to count the outstanding c550k votes today and hopefully have a result by the eod.

And Kathy's estimation is high. There's under 375k left as of this moment; 200k in the cities (PBurgh, Allentown, Erie and Philly), 50k in the burbs and another ~120k in the Rurals.

The question when this is all over will be if Trump loses PA; by what margin, and how many votes came in after the 3rd.

[Hootiefish]

So when do establishment, non-bootlicking Republicans begin to distance themselves from Trump’s voter fraud nonsense?

It’s obvious that many Republicans benefited from ticket splitting considering their gains in the House and holding onto the Senate.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

And Kathy's estimation is high. There's under 375k left as of this moment; 200k in the cities (PBurgh, Allentown, Erie and Philly), 50k in the burbs and another ~120k in the Rurals.

The question when this is all over will be if Trump loses PA; by what margin, and how many votes came in after the 3rd.

This is correct and where we are at the moment.

(Small update 3,231,000 - 3,117,000)