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Old 11-09-2020, 03:12 PM   #61326
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That system already exists, it's called our voting process. Why are people looking for an issue when one doesn't exist?
Agree!

Maybe next time we should see if 2024 voters can just use Blowout's polling process but add who voted who and submit to the ballot polls.

Then we can say, no way can Blowout forums polls have fraud!

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    • I hit submit 3 days later..

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Old 11-09-2020, 03:17 PM   #61327
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Because some believe our system isn't perfect and it could be better.

Do you think our system is perfect? Or is it merely "good enough" for you?

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There is no perfect system. Again, how can it be better? How does a voter ID help things without creating a barrier to voting? We didn't have any issues with this until this year when more people voted by mail than in person. Maybe mail-in voting is the future. Maybe we should mail registered voters their ballots and they can bring it to a polling station blank and vote in person if they want. Obviously, you'd have to verify your identity on the mail-in ballot through either a state ID number or social security number.
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Old 11-09-2020, 03:19 PM   #61328
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Because some believe our system isn't perfect and it could be better.

Do you think our system is perfect? Or is it merely "good enough" for you?

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Nothing is nor ever will be be perfect.

Even if it WAS perfect, those screaming fraud would still scream it.
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Old 11-09-2020, 03:20 PM   #61329
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There is some serious "us/them" stuff going on for you there.

Step back for a moment and look at it from the point of a neutral observer. If even one illegally cast vote is counted, that's a problem. If even one legally cast vote is not counted, that is also a problem.

Widespread, schmidespread. Doesn't matter. Every legal vote counts every time or we need to fix it.

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I am neutral. I don't believe we need new laws or requirements for things that haven't ever been proven to be an issue. It's nothing but "what if" and "it could" questions and statements.

I'm also not dumb enough to think that any law (voter ID or otherwise) could stop 100% of those who are willing to commit some sort of vote casting fraud.

So if you're looking at going from virtually non-existent to a proven zero, you're chasing a dragon.
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Old 11-09-2020, 03:29 PM   #61330
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I am neutral. I don't believe we need new laws or requirements for things that haven't ever been proven to be an issue. It's nothing but "what if" and "it could" questions and statements.

I'm also not dumb enough to think that any law (voter ID or otherwise) could stop 100% of those who are willing to commit some sort of vote casting fraud.

So if you're looking at going from virtually non-existent to a proven zero, you're chasing a dragon.
I don't think anyone in here would say you are neutral.
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Old 11-09-2020, 03:36 PM   #61331
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Except that it is one more thing that this administration is straight-up lying about and trying to take credit for.

No reason to lie at this point, yet they cannot help themselves.
Well, now that Pfizer is admitting it's part of the operation, are you done pretending to know what you're talking about?

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Old 11-09-2020, 03:39 PM   #61332
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Lol class acts in here after the election. Shocking. Win or lose the left rage and act like juveniles in here.

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Old 11-09-2020, 03:46 PM   #61333
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Well, now that Pfizer is admitting it's part of the operation, are you done pretending to know what you're talking about?

Forgive me for trusting the original Pfizer statement rather than this administration.
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Old 11-09-2020, 03:47 PM   #61334
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Lol class acts in here after the election. Shocking. Win or lose the left rage and act like juveniles in here.

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In all fairness, we were class acts before the election too.
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Old 11-09-2020, 03:48 PM   #61335
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Um, the President is literally calling everything that doesn't favor him fake and fraudulent. Half his Tweets have warnings on them about being false or misleading. He just fired his Defense Secretary for no apparent reason. He refuses to even acknowledge that he might have lost. But it's those on the left that are juvenile.
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Old 11-09-2020, 03:49 PM   #61336
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McConnell goes to floor of the senate to encourage legal challenges right after meeting with AG Bill Barr. They're gonna try to cook something up.
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Old 11-09-2020, 03:51 PM   #61337
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Um, the President is literally calling everything that doesn't favor him fake and fraudulent. Half his Tweets have warnings on them about being false or misleading. He just fired his Defense Secretary for no apparent reason. He refuses to even acknowledge that he might have lost. But it's those on the left that are juvenile.
Forgive them, they know not what they do.

It's probably a lot to realize that the person you've defended for the last four years is as crazy and unhinged as the rest of us have been saying.
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Old 11-09-2020, 03:53 PM   #61338
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Well, now that Pfizer is admitting it's part of the operation, are you done pretending to know what you're talking about?

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Haha true. Apperantly getting supsended doesn't help.

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I got suspended for using a bad word. It's not like I threatened anyone.
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Well, now that Pfizer is admitting it's part of the operation, are you done pretending to know what you're talking about?

so what does this actually mean NC? im too stupid.
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Forgive me for trusting the original Pfizer statement rather than this administration.
Wrong again. Their initial statement was the PR release Pfizer made on July 22nd which clearly said they were part of the program.

https://investors.pfizer.com/investo...2/default.aspx
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so what does this actually mean NC? im too stupid.
It means that the government agreed to buy 100 million doses of the vaccine from Pfizer for a cost of $1.95 billion; and the government reserved the right to acquire an additional 500 million doses at the same agreed upon price.

If Pfizer wanted the payday and the star power for creating the vaccine, they had to fund the R&D themselves.
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Wrong again. Their initial statement was the PR release Pfizer made on July 22nd which clearly said they were part of the program.

https://investors.pfizer.com/investo...2/default.aspx
According to this article, two people at Pfizer stated they did not take federal money and were not part of Operation Warp Speed:

https://www.newsweek.com/pfizer-covi...-pence-1546024

But yes, I was wrong for not believing the Trump administration.
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According to this article, two people at Pfizer stated they did not take federal money and were not part of Operation Warp Speed:

https://www.newsweek.com/pfizer-covi...-pence-1546024

But yes, I was wrong for not believing the Trump administration.
Newsweek is trash. 20 years since it was a serious publication, you may as well post from the Enquirer.

And no; you were wrong because you were wrong.
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It means that the government agreed to buy 100 million doses of the vaccine from Pfizer for a cost of $1.95 billion; and the government reserved the right to acquire an additional 500 million doses at the same agreed upon price.

If Pfizer wanted the payday and the star power for creating the vaccine, they had to fund the R&D themselves.
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Newsweek is trash. 20 years since it was a serious publication, you may as well post from the Enquirer.

And no; you were wrong because you were wrong.
Christ, do you people not like any news publication? Does it have to be OAN or NewsMax to be accepted?

And you can't even take someone admitting they were wrong without some little jab.
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Christ, do you people not like any news publication? Does it have to be OAN or NewsMax to be accepted?

And you can't even take someone admitting they were wrong without some little jab.
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It means that the government agreed to buy 100 million doses of the vaccine from Pfizer for a cost of $1.95 billion; and the government reserved the right to acquire an additional 500 million doses at the same agreed upon price.

If Pfizer wanted the payday and the star power for creating the vaccine, they had to fund the R&D themselves.
That's enough to vaccinate those who voted for Biden or those who voted for Trump given it's two shots.
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Please allow me to prostrate myself before you, oh great and powerful one. I shall never speak ill of the truthfulness of the soon-to-be-former Trump administration again. Nor shall I post a link from a news source prior to having NC and a team of right wing loons vet it for its truthiness.

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