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Old 11-09-2020, 04:11 PM   #61351
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Please allow me to prostrate myself before you, oh great and powerful one. I shall never speak ill of the truthfulness of the soon-to-be-former Trump administration again. Nor shall I post a link from a news source prior to having NC and a team of right wing loons vet it for its truthiness.

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Old 11-09-2020, 04:12 PM   #61352
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Sweet. It only took me four(?) months or so.
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Old 11-09-2020, 04:18 PM   #61353
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Given all the smack being thrown around by both the winning side and the losing side (but mostly the losing side) after this election, I've decided to ignore normal societal protocols concerning gloating for a moment.

I think you Trumpy McTrumpersons have this coming.

Deal with it.

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Old 11-09-2020, 04:19 PM   #61354
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There seems to be much more to Trumps legal fight than somebody's dead grandma voting. They are going after thousands of ballots as unconstitutional.

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Old 11-09-2020, 04:22 PM   #61355
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There seems to be much more to Trumps legal fight than somebody's dead grandma voting. They are going after thousands of ballots as unconstitutional.

You mean there's more to the story than just CNN calling the race for Joe Biden? Wow.
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Old 11-09-2020, 04:23 PM   #61356
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There seems to be much more to Trumps legal fight than somebody's dead grandma voting. They are going after thousands of ballots as unconstitutional.

There isn’t more to it.
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Old 11-09-2020, 04:23 PM   #61357
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The proud conservative has become nothing but the forever victim. How far you have fallen my friends. Embracing ignorance on a scale that is still, to this day, hard to fathom. You do not embrace democracy or freedom or truth. There is no denying it, the evidence is all around us. In writing, in public, on video, written up above in this forum. All of it, front and center for years.

Nothing will satiate you. You will always be the victim, even in victory. Poor, poor little you, the world is always so unfair. Like the scared children you are, you comfort yourself with make believe stories of the big bad liberal wolf out to steal your way of life. Forget the absurdity that your way of life is the same as my way of life, there is nothing to steal. And by your efforts to deny reality, we die by the hundreds of thousands. But they matter not, you are alive afterall.

You are doing the work of our enemies and you are too poisoned by false fears to know it. Mother Russia is proud of the ignorance, death and chaos you have spread.


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Old 11-09-2020, 04:26 PM   #61358
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The proud conservative has become nothing but the forever victim. How far you have fallen my friends. Embracing ignorance on a scale that is still, to this day, hard to fathom. You do not embrace democracy or freedom or truth. There is no denying it, the evidence is all around us. In writing, in public, on video, written up above in this forum. All of it, front and center for years.

Nothing will satiate you. You will always be the victim, even in victory. Poor, poor little you, the world is always so unfair. Like the scared children you are, you comfort yourself with make believe stories of the big bad liberal wolf out to steal your way of life. Forget the absurdity that your way of life is the same as my way of life, there is nothing to steal. And by your efforts to deny reality, we die by the hundreds of thousands. But they matter not, you are alive afterall.

You are doing the work of our enemies and you are too poisoned by false fears to know it. Mother Russia is proud of the ignorance, death and chaos you have spread.


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Old 11-09-2020, 04:26 PM   #61359
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The proud conservative has become nothing but the forever victim. How far you have fallen my friends. Embracing ignorance on a scale that is still, to this day, hard to fathom. You do not embrace democracy or freedom or truth. There is no denying it, the evidence is all around us. In writing, in public, on video, written up above in this forum. All of it, front and center for years.

Nothing will satiate you. You will always be the victim, even in victory. Poor, poor little you, the world is always so unfair. Like the scared children you are, you comfort yourself with make believe stories of the big bad liberal wolf out to steal your way of life. Forget the absurdity that your way of life is the same as my way of life, there is nothing to steal. And by your efforts to deny reality, we die by the hundreds of thousands. But they matter not, you are alive afterall.

You are doing the work of our enemies and you are too poisoned by false fears to know it. Mother Russia is proud of the ignorance, death and chaos you have spread.


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I don't disagree, but I think this is an issue with society today, in general - regardless of political affiliation.

Why take the time, effort, and will-power to recognize your faults and improve when it's so convenient and easy to blame someone else? Looking yourself in the mirror and recognizing the issues hurts, and hurts even worse to improve them... having someone pat you on the back and tell you your faults are justified makes everyone feel all warm and fuzzy.

It's gross. Especially in America, of all places.
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Old 11-09-2020, 04:30 PM   #61360
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There isn’t more to it.
The SCOTUS will almost certainly take a look at the PA votes received after 8:00 case. Alito has already said they must be kept separate.
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Old 11-09-2020, 04:34 PM   #61361
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Is COVID still not political? Cuomo, your thoughts?
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Old 11-09-2020, 04:34 PM   #61362
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The SCOTUS will almost certainly take a look at the PA votes received after 8:00 case. Alito has already said they must be kept separate.
That will be the only one they win. And it won’t make a bit of difference.
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Old 11-09-2020, 04:34 PM   #61363
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The SCOTUS will almost certainly take a look at the PA votes received after 8:00 case. Alito has already said they must be kept separate.
They were already segregating ballots received after 8 pm though.

Regardless, that wouldn't affect the result..
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Old 11-09-2020, 04:35 PM   #61364
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What he said today; there are no words to describe. It's just very sad.
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Old 11-09-2020, 04:37 PM   #61365
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The proud conservative has become nothing but the forever victim. How far you have fallen my friends. Embracing ignorance on a scale that is still, to this day, hard to fathom. You do not embrace democracy or freedom or truth. There is no denying it, the evidence is all around us. In writing, in public, on video, written up above in this forum. All of it, front and center for years.

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This is a big, huge ball of awesomeness wadded up, mashed back flat into legibility again, and displayed proudly on the Message Board of Truth for all to see.

Well said.

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Old 11-09-2020, 04:38 PM   #61366
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First and foremost, Pfizer has not ever claimed to be part of Operation Warp Speed, nor does that press release on "July 22nd which clearly said they were part of the program."

To most businesses, getting a purchase order does not make you part of the company. So Pfizer never professed to be part of Operation Warp Speed, they simply announced that they had a guaranteed order if they were able to come up with a vaccine.

Basically, it comes down to semantics as to whether or not Pfizer was actually "part of" Operation Warp Speed. Define as you wish.

One of the primary goals of Operation Warp Speed was to limit the financial exposure of companies who were part of the race for the research and development a vaccine (as well as subsequent delivery of the vaccine, etc.).

Numerous pharmaceutical companies took part in this funding. Pfizer did not. Pfizer was indeed on the outside. What Pfizer received was a guaranteed order of 100 million doses if they could produce an effective vaccine. They announced their effective vaccine today.

Yes, a guaranteed order was on the books, however they received zero research and development funding and insulation from Operation Warp Speed.



(NOTE: Why any of this is even an issue is silly.)
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Old 11-09-2020, 04:49 PM   #61367
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wow... Fox News cut out of a Trump Campaign press conference. Cavouto said they
couldn't continue to air this, without any evidence of Fraud presented...
What do you make of that?
Traitors? Are there Traitors on my TV?
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Old 11-09-2020, 04:52 PM   #61368
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jeez people, even Topps has called it... throw the damn towel!

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Fox News just cut out of the Trump campaign press conference because they "couldn't in good conscience" continue to air it
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Question for liberals/democrats on the board. Conservatives feel free to chime in as well, but I'm pretty confident in how you'd respond.

In regards to deficit spending, where do you stand?

Given that the previous high yearly budget deficit was $1.4T in 2009 and we are looking to top $3T in 2020 and $2T in 2021, what should we do?

Option 1) cut spending
Option 2) raise taxes
Option 3) both 1 and 2
Option 4) keep on keepin' on. It's all good.



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I feel like Trump's continued denial being backed by some in the Republican Party is evidence that they are trying to utilize that passion to win the Senate run-offs in Georgia.

Once again, Trump's insanity is being utilized for a greater gain by the Republican Party. Kudos to them, I guess.
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Question for liberals/democrats on the board. Conservatives feel free to chime in as well, but I'm pretty confident in how you'd respond.

In regards to deficit spending, where do you stand?

Given that the previous high yearly budget deficit was $1.4T in 2009 and we are looking to top $3T in 2020 and $2T in 2021, what should we do?

Option 1) cut spending
Option 2) raise taxes
Option 3) both 1 and 2
Option 4) keep on keepin' on. It's all good.
I'm a liberal, so it's option four. Deficit ain't nuthin' but a number.
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Old 11-09-2020, 04:58 PM   #61373
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Fox News just cut out of the Trump campaign press conference because they "couldn't in good conscience" continue to air it
Four years too late, but at least they found that they did, in fact, have a conscience.
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Old 11-09-2020, 04:59 PM   #61374
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I feel like Trump's continued denial being backed by some in the Republican Party is evidence that they are trying to utilize that passion to win the Senate run-offs in Georgia.

Once again, Trump's insanity is being utilized for a greater gain by the Republican Party. Kudos to them, I guess.
This is all that it is and it's quite transparent. It's both sick and sly at the same time.
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This is all that it is and it's quite transparent. It's both sick and sly at the same time.
As a PoliSci/Comms grad, I respect the play.

As a Dem, I really wish we had someone who knew how to play the game as well as Republicans. Half the time I don't even think they are playing the same sport.
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