Upper Deck Series 1 20-21 - Page 3

daktmacfan · 11-11-2020, 02:06 PM

Lafreniere UD Canvas YG will be a nice chase card out there too!!

Davis · 11-11-2020, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by daktmacfan

Lafreniere UD Canvas YG will be a nice chase card out there too!!

Wow...can't believe they put his regular YG and Canvas YG in the same series. The canvas YG has always been held back for Series 2.

And I just looked at the checklist....I don't follow NHL prospects outside of the top few picks, but I don't recognize any Young Guns on the checklist other than Lafreniere.

CoryM · 11-11-2020, 04:00 PM

Do you guys think this stuff gets snatched up and goes up in price like all other sports has?

THammers · 11-11-2020, 04:07 PM

It's hockey so no it won't go crazy. The best case is one of the young guns like Lafreniere goes nuts right out of the gate when the season starts but I wouldn't expect it to go through the roof. The season also won't start for a while after the release so it'll most likely stagnate for a while until we get some results.

mwash1983 · 11-11-2020, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Davis

Wow...can't believe they put his regular YG and Canvas YG in the same series. The canvas YG has always been held back for Series 2.

And I just looked at the checklist....I don't follow NHL prospects outside of the top few picks, but I don't recognize any Young Guns on the checklist other than Lafreniere.

Vilardi is pretty good...

Bigduga · 11-11-2020, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Davis

I don't follow NHL prospects outside of the top few picks, but I don't recognize any Young Guns on the checklist other than Lafreniere.

besides the aforementioned Vilardi - Foudy, Krebs, Byram, Broberg, McMichael and Kravtsov are all pretty highly regarded for one or several reasons. They're not centerpiece-names, but they're good players. The YG list certainly could've been much worse.

daktmacfan · 11-11-2020, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CoryM

Do you guys think this stuff gets snatched up and goes up in price like all other sports has?

They print so much of it I don't see that being the case, but then I have been wrong about most everything in 2020 regarding the hobby.

Bigduga · 11-11-2020, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CoryM

Do you guys think this stuff gets snatched up and goes up in price like all other sports has?

Things have stayed relatively cool in the hockey space so far, price wise...

I can't realistically imagine Alexis Lafreniere is the straw that finally pushes the hockey market over the demand-cliff.

k13 · 11-12-2020, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by odjickfan

I've seen some experienced collectors saying Lafreniere YG should be in the price range of Mackinnon YG.

MacKinnon is pre-epack

Mrhenrychan · 11-12-2020, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CoryM

Do you guys think this stuff gets snatched up and goes up in price like all other sports has?

Nope...if you can’t beat the flippers at Target, just go online and buy e-packs...

daktmacfan · 11-12-2020, 08:55 AM

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Nope...if you can’t beat the flippers at Target, just go online and buy e-packs...

How does e-pack pricing compare to physical hobby packs? I paid $3 USD for my hobby case that I have on pre-order.

Does e-Pack have sales? The biggest issue with e-Pack I see is the COMC bottleneck if you want to actually have the card in-person.

Eckstein197 · 11-12-2020, 11:57 PM

Series 2 could be absolutely loaded depending on when it comes out/start of the NHL season

valleynuckfan · 11-13-2020, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by daktmacfan

The biggest issue with e-Pack I see is the COMC bottleneck if you want to actually have the card in-person.

From what I understand getting your ePack cards shipped directly from Upper Deck only takes a couple of weeks. If you move them over to COMC then you will be waiting quite awhile.

Fleurycup09 · 11-13-2020, 01:18 AM

with Epack you will wait months for your cards. Send them to COMC and you will pay 25 cents per card and wait weeks for your cards. Unless you pay rush shipping.

AeroFishOne · 11-13-2020, 07:04 AM

With Epack you don’t get physical base though do you. I bought a pack of allure as a test and was only able to transfer the die cuts I hit.

clearblue · 11-14-2020, 06:34 AM

I thought they never put players in the set until they've played an actual NHL game (not including the early early releases of UD). If the season doesn't start til January, I'm guessing they won't have him in a proper game setting and jersey or it'll be a photoshoot/Rangers media photo. That'll be quite different. Different times I guess.

PDCCollectibles · 11-17-2020, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by daktmacfan

Lafreniere UD Canvas YG will be a nice chase card out there too!!

Surprised they are putting Lafreniere on the YG Canvas CL....UD usually puts the top pick in Young Guns S1 and then the Young Guns Canvas in S2...looking foward to tomorrow!

THammers · 11-17-2020, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by THammers

It's hockey so no it won't go crazy. The best case is one of the young guns like Lafreniere goes nuts right out of the gate when the season starts but I wouldn't expect it to go through the roof. The season also won't start for a while after the release so it'll most likely stagnate for a while until we get some results.

I stand corrected. Cheapest I'm seeing right now in the top few online stores is $100. One big name has it at $120 which seems insane. Glad I got my two at $80 each.

rohara99 · 11-17-2020, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by THammers

I stand corrected. Cheapest I'm seeing right now in the top few online stores is $100. One big name has it at $120 which seems insane. Glad I got my two at $80 each.

Maybe I was delusional but should I have pre-ordered? I just assumed pre-order prices = first day release at a LCS.

Was just going to swing by my local shop on my way home from work tomorrow.

mcwildcats · 11-17-2020, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PDCCollectibles

Surprised they are putting Lafreniere on the YG Canvas CL....UD usually puts the top pick in Young Guns S1 and then the Young Guns Canvas in S2...looking foward to tomorrow!

Does Lafreniere have confirmed autos in this? And, if so, do we know yet if they could be redemptions? And do we know if any of his other key cards that are not autos would be redemptions?

THammers · 11-17-2020, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rohara99

Maybe I was delusional but should I have pre-ordered? I just assumed pre-order prices = first day release at a LCS.

Was just going to swing by my local shop on my way home from work tomorrow.

I would have thought the same. Looks like the $100 option is sold out now too. Crazy, hopefully you have better luck in Canada at your LCS.

THammers · 11-17-2020, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mcwildcats

Does Lafreniere have confirmed autos in this? And, if so, do we know yet if they could be redemptions? And do we know if any of his other key cards that are not autos would be redemptions?

Beckett says there are no redemptions in the product. That being said autos are going to be pretty rare and aren't generally the draw for flagship.

mcwildcats · 11-17-2020, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by THammers

Beckett says there are no redemptions in the product. That being said autos are going to be pretty rare and aren't generally the draw for flagship.

Awesome, thank you! If Lafreniere had his key cards as redemptions, I would have been forced to rip. But now, I think I'll keep the hobby I have coming sealed.

Bigduga · 11-17-2020, 01:33 PM

I usually expect to pay about 10% over pre-order price off the shelf at my LCS, but mileage may vary if your local guy is a bigger outlet than i have close-by.

For what’s likely to come out of it $120 for a flagship UD box is kind of absurd. TBH the $80 pre-order price was probably pushing it.

120 is a Lafreniere or bust price on that box...you’ve got almost no chance at ROI without pulling the roughly 1:8 boxes YG in the first place (or some other unicorn at much steeper odds), and that’s assuming the kid carries the expectation when he finally sees the ice.

I ultimately don’t think he has the wheels to be a generational guy. Helluva player, but not a guy that should be driving 50% box markups prior to release day.

Davis · 11-17-2020, 02:39 PM

$100 should be ceiling on box prices because epack is going to come out at $90 to $100 per box.

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11-11-2020, 02:06 PM	#51
daktmacfan Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: EST Posts: 1,131	Lafreniere UD Canvas YG will be a nice chase card out there too!!

11-11-2020, 04:00 PM	#53
CoryM Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Ontario,Canada Posts: 1,045 Corym888	Do you guys think this stuff gets snatched up and goes up in price like all other sports has?

11-11-2020, 04:07 PM	#54
THammers Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 966	It's hockey so no it won't go crazy. The best case is one of the young guns like Lafreniere goes nuts right out of the gate when the season starts but I wouldn't expect it to go through the roof. The season also won't start for a while after the release so it'll most likely stagnate for a while until we get some results.

11-13-2020, 01:18 AM	#64
Fleurycup09 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 931 2Bsports Fleurycup09	with Epack you will wait months for your cards. Send them to COMC and you will pay 25 cents per card and wait weeks for your cards. Unless you pay rush shipping.

11-13-2020, 07:04 AM	#65
AeroFishOne Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 71 AeroFishOne AeroFishOne	With Epack you don’t get physical base though do you. I bought a pack of allure as a test and was only able to transfer the die cuts I hit.

11-14-2020, 06:34 AM	#66
clearblue Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 1,671	I thought they never put players in the set until they've played an actual NHL game (not including the early early releases of UD). If the season doesn't start til January, I'm guessing they won't have him in a proper game setting and jersey or it'll be a photoshoot/Rangers media photo. That'll be quite different. Different times I guess.

11-17-2020, 01:33 PM	#74
Bigduga Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 177	I usually expect to pay about 10% over pre-order price off the shelf at my LCS, but mileage may vary if your local guy is a bigger outlet than i have close-by. For what’s likely to come out of it $120 for a flagship UD box is kind of absurd. TBH the $80 pre-order price was probably pushing it. 120 is a Lafreniere or bust price on that box...you’ve got almost no chance at ROI without pulling the roughly 1:8 boxes YG in the first place (or some other unicorn at much steeper odds), and that’s assuming the kid carries the expectation when he finally sees the ice. I ultimately don’t think he has the wheels to be a generational guy. Helluva player, but not a guy that should be driving 50% box markups prior to release day.

11-17-2020, 02:39 PM	#75
Davis Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Denver Posts: 6,514	$100 should be ceiling on box prices because epack is going to come out at $90 to $100 per box.