2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

Ummm...

Riiiggghhhht. Whatevs.

This is the 21st century. Welcome.

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Then where are the vaccines for pneumonia? Bronchitis?

[lionsfan20]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

Well I agree with part of that. : )

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Well that is not surprising

Seriously though here is an example straight from my life and personal experiences.

My father is 70 and was a life long smoker. Had a double lung transplant 8 years ago. He is on a plethora of meds including immunosuppressants. My mother in law is a 2 time cancer survivor and is currently battling it again and going through chemotherapy. So basically both of them at highest risk of death from covid-19. Rather than quarantine our entire extended family we have taken steps to protect them. They are very careful and take all possible precautions. We help them in any way possible. The rest of the family carries on with our lives with work school social activities etc. We all wear masks and social distance as much as possible etc. We do not see them very often but are very careful when we do. They are ok and we are able to continue our lives and contribute to society and the economy.

Anecdotal I know but I still see some validity and believe in a sense this approach would be effective on a large scale. Once a vaccine is available high risk folks like our parents will be one of the first to get vaccinated after medical staff and first responders. Then the can get back to life as usual along with the rest of us. This can likely save their lives while not destroying all of ours.

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[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

Then where are the vaccines for pneumonia? Bronchitis?

Dega: You take antibiotics for those conditions and there is also a pneumonia vaccine for seniors.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

You have been on this board long enough to know exactly what I'm talking about

That's fine. I don't have anything to hide behind a VPN.

I believe that the citizens of any nation should have the right to determine their own destiny.

I also believe that membership in global organizations (WTO, UN, etc) are not in the best interests of a sovereign nation.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

Dega: You take antibiotics for those conditions and there is also a pneumonia vaccine for seniors.

You can take antibiotics for COVID. We just don't know what will work yet or not without tons of studies.

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

You can take antibiotics for COVID. We just don't know what will work yet or not without tons of studies.

Sure, you can take antibiotics for a lot of conditions, that doesn't mean they are the right choice.

You are out of your realm on this one man. Leave it to the experts.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by lionsfan20

Quarantine the high risk population from the start and we could have close to zero covid deaths. Instead we are trying to protect the entire global population from an airborne virus. What do I know I'm dense

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If only we had some sort of national head of government these past 9 months to provide the country with strategic guidance on how to best deal with the pandemic....

Instead.....

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

Sure, you can take antibiotics for a lot of conditions, that doesn't mean they are the right choice.

You are out of your realm on this one man. Leave it to the experts.

What experts? How can someone be an expert on something that never existed before?

Fastest vaccine was what, 4 years? And we should expect a vaccine?

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

If only we had some sort of national head of government these past 9 months to provide the country with strategic guidance on how to best deal with the pandemic....

Instead.....

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The Chinese can do amazing things when faced with work camps.

[Zedlaw]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

If only we had some sort of national head of government these past 9 months to provide the country with strategic guidance on how to best deal with the pandemic....

Instead.....

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

What experts? How can someone be an expert on something that never existed before?

Fastest vaccine was what, 4 years? And we should expect a vaccine?

whoa.. what's this rage all about?


what I told you was simple facts.

you treat bronchitis with antibiotics.
you treat pneumonia with antibiotics. People over the age of 65 should also get a pneumonia shot.

I have no idea where the re-search is headed in regards to covid. Antibiotics? Anti-virals? A combination of both? I gather that several hundred people are currently working on this that have a heck of a lot more degrees behind their names than you or I.


So like I trust my heat pump guy to correctly install a new heat pump in my house, I am going to look to the experts to come up with an effective treatment for covid.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

whoa.. what's this rage all about?


what I told you was simple facts.

you treat bronchitis with antibiotics.
you treat pneumonia with antibiotics. People over the age of 65 should also get a pneumonia shot.

I have no idea where the re-search is headed in regards to covid. Antibiotics? Anti-virals? A combination of both? I gather that several hundred people are currently working on this that have a heck of a lot more degrees behind their names than you or I.


So like I trust my heat pump guy to correctly install a new heat pump in my house, I am going to look to the experts to come up with an effective treatment for covid.

No rage, just also speaking facts. You have people making decisions until we get a vaccine. Are we really going to be in this position 3 years from now? We are all HOPEFUL on a vaccine, but there are no guarantees.

In regards to experts, they have been way wrong. I can't blame them, this is new, but it's hard to trust experts when they were off. It's hard to trust experts when they say we may lockdown because the virus is more dangerous inside so we need to keep everyone... inside? Or where protesting is okay but going to church isn't. For example.

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

No rage, just also speaking facts. You have people making decisions until we get a vaccine. Are we really going to be in this position 3 years from now? We are all HOPEFUL on a vaccine, but there are no guarantees.

In regards to experts, they have been way wrong. I can't blame them, this is new, but it's hard to trust experts when they were off. It's hard to trust experts when they say we may lockdown because the virus is more dangerous inside so we need to keep everyone... inside? Or where protesting is okay but going to church isn't. For example.

I don't dispute for even a second they haven't royally screwed this up and "moved goal posts" along the way. 100% no doubt.




edit: I am going to go out on a limb here and say ultimately, the covid vaccine will likely be much like the flu vacine. Probably not 100% effective in all patients, but may lessen the severity/symptoms of the illness.


just my 2 cents.

[petesahuttt]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

You can take antibiotics for COVID. We just don't know what will work yet or not without tons of studies.

You really are clueless about science and medicine.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

If only we had some sort of national head of government these past 9 months to provide the country with strategic guidance on how to best deal with the pandemic....

Instead.....

Originally Posted by Clark

The Chinese can do amazing things when faced with work camps.

This is the best your response your programming can come up with?

[petesahuttt]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

What experts? How can someone be an expert on something that never existed before?

Fastest vaccine was what, 4 years? And we should expect a vaccine?

It has existsed now for almost a year! HOw long do you want someone to be an expert on something before you listen to their advice?

[petesahuttt]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

No rage, just also speaking facts. You have people making decisions until we get a vaccine. Are we really going to be in this position 3 years from now? We are all HOPEFUL on a vaccine, but there are no guarantees.

In regards to experts, they have been way wrong. I can't blame them, this is new, but it's hard to trust experts when they were off. It's hard to trust experts when they say we may lockdown because the virus is more dangerous inside so we need to keep everyone... inside? Or where protesting is okay but going to church isn't. For example.

So, we trust in a President who listens to zero experts and spouts lies about almost every darn thing he talks about. Good choice, look where we are now.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by petesahuttt

You really are clueless about science and medicine.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by petesahuttt

It has existsed now for almost a year! HOw long do you want someone to be an expert on something before you listen to their advice?

Doesn't matter. I'm not listening now.

Originally Posted by petesahuttt

So, we trust in a President who listens to zero experts and spouts lies about almost every darn thing he talks about. Good choice, look where we are now.

Why are you trusting a President? Bold strategy there. I'm sorry that you did that. Ill trust the data.

[IgnatiusJReilly]

But we’re turning the corner! Hospital rate schmospital rate, I don’t need no stinking mask (puts head back into ground).


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[hockeyman]

has donnie the douche and gang of henchmen done anything since the election other then cry or fire people??

[discostu]

How are these lawsuits going?

Anything with some teeth come out yet?

At some point, these strict constitutionalists in here are going to have to realize that this isn't about fairness, validity, Making America Great Again or the Constitution...it's about disarray. It's about ego. It's about delay.

Say what you want about his policies, his words, his demeanor, his tweets, etc...this a real legacy builder.

[salthill]

Originally Posted by discostu

How are these lawsuits going?

About as well as the guy that planned to sue Topps over not winning a card for a player’s spring training homer in the Home Run Challenge.

[SK40]

What Democrat/Biden plans are there for China?

[Clark]

[QUOTE=Jopeal;16636983]This is the best your response your programming can come up with?

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

What experts? How can someone be an expert on something that never existed before?



Fastest vaccine was what, 4 years? And we should expect a vaccine?

This is a silly argument.

Infectious disease specialists are the world's leading authority on infectious diseases. Covid is an infectious disease.

And yes, we should expect a vaccine. That's what the experts are telling us.

Stop with the "there are no experts" silliness. Remember, it is better to say nothing and be thought a fool than to....well, you know the rest.

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