e-Packs Help

[Clark]

I am old. Can someone explain to me how e-packs work and their effect on the collecting market?

If there is a thread, please provide a link.

Much appreciated.

[mjohnatgt]

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...ighlight=epack

[Clark]

Originally Posted by mjohnatgt

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...ighlight=epack

Thanks John!

[irv]

Interesting read, although I still don't understand why Epack was invented? Seems counter productive to me but then again I am not a business man so I assume this is a financial windfall for them somehow?

I had heard/read a little prior about this post and it is one of the reasons I didn't pursue a Cale Makar YG card. They are still increasing in value I see, nothing crazy, but are now approaching a $100 bucks give or take.

Is there a good chance these Makar cards will plummet in value due to EPack, or are these solid buys that will likely remain solid buys?

I am interested in purchasing at least one new (20-21) YG of my friends nephew, which I will despite epack, just to have one, but, again, this whole epack thing sounds silly to me.

What am I missing, exactly?

[THammers]

E-packs are already out for 2019-20 if I'm not mistaken so I don't think the value of a Makar young gun will plummet based on e-pack at this point.

If it is true that they reserve a set percentage of the print-run for e-pack then I don't really see how e-packs specifically have an impact on pricing. If they increased the print-run to account for e-pack that is one thing but if they just decided ok now 20% of our normal run is being reserved for e-packs then the impact should be 0. If this is not true and e-packs are infinitely printable then that's definitely a problem.

[Paderborn1907]

Originally Posted by irv

Interesting read, although I still don't understand why Epack was invented? Seems counter productive to me but then again I am not a business man so I assume this is a financial windfall for them somehow?

I had heard/read a little prior about this post and it is one of the reasons I didn't pursue a Cale Makar YG card. They are still increasing in value I see, nothing crazy, but are now approaching a $100 bucks give or take.

Is there a good chance these Makar cards will plummet in value due to EPack, or are these solid buys that will likely remain solid buys?

I am interested in purchasing at least one new (20-21) YG of my friends nephew, which I will despite epack, just to have one, but, again, this whole epack thing sounds silly to me.

What am I missing, exactly?

Direct sales is always benefitial for the seller. I'm just not sure how much it costs them to operate e-pack.

Cale Makar is fantastic and will be a superstar, but it's very unlikeley he can sustain 100$ for his Young Guns since he's a defender: Burns, Hedman, Karlsson, Daughty, Josi non of these guys are really selling for more (and probably have shorted print runs).

e-pack impact is more at the beginning of a release when gamblers need to re-coup losses and it's more on the 2nd and 3rd tier Young Guns which get dumped on comc all at the same time.

[mjohnatgt]

Main reason is supply. If at any given time 20 are available on eBay, a normal price point of say $20 can be established for a prospect with some possibilities. Now add 100 of the same base card on the market, and prices race down to $3 for a while until they slowly all get bought out or flipped over months or years.

[CoryM]

When does series 1 go live on e-pack?

[irv]

Originally Posted by THammers

E-packs are already out for 2019-20 if I'm not mistaken so I don't think the value of a Makar young gun will plummet based on e-pack at this point.

If it is true that they reserve a set percentage of the print-run for e-pack then I don't really see how e-packs specifically have an impact on pricing. If they increased the print-run to account for e-pack that is one thing but if they just decided ok now 20% of our normal run is being reserved for e-packs then the impact should be 0. If this is not true and e-packs are infinitely printable then that's definitely a problem.

Originally Posted by Paderborn1907

Direct sales is always benefitial for the seller. I'm just not sure how much it costs them to operate e-pack.

Cale Makar is fantastic and will be a superstar, but it's very unlikeley he can sustain 100$ for his Young Guns since he's a defender: Burns, Hedman, Karlsson, Daughty, Josi non of these guys are really selling for more (and probably have shorted print runs).

e-pack impact is more at the beginning of a release when gamblers need to re-coup losses and it's more on the 2nd and 3rd tier Young Guns which get dumped on comc all at the same time.

Originally Posted by mjohnatgt

Main reason is supply. If at any given time 20 are available on eBay, a normal price point of say $20 can be established for a prospect with some possibilities. Now add 100 of the same base card on the market, and prices race down to $3 for a while until they slowly all get bought out or flipped over months or years.

Thanks guys, I appreciate the info.

At this point I think I am going to pass on trying to get a Makar YG, unless I get lucky and find one cheap?

When I was back looking somewhat aggressively, I said screw this after getting beat out on too many auctions and decided to chase a Stature #/85 card instead, which I won.
Figured with only 85 of this particular card and likely literally 100's, if not thousands of YG's, I assumed this card was the smarter buy?

[Clark]

Originally Posted by irv

Thanks guys, I appreciate the info.

At this point I think I am going to pass on trying to get a Makar YG, unless I get lucky and find one cheap?

When I was back looking somewhat aggressively, I said screw this after getting beat out on too many auctions and decided to chase a Stature #/85 card instead, which I won.
Figured with only 85 of this particular card and likely literally 100's, if not thousands of YG's, I assumed this card was the smarter buy?

https://www.blowoutforums.com/attach...8&d=1606258537

That's a nice card! Serial numbered, on card auto....it checks the right boxes. I think you will see the YG come down in price. Defenders usually lose their hype quicker.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Clark

That's a nice card! Serial numbered, on card auto....it checks the right boxes. I think you will see the YG come down in price. Defenders usually lose their hype quicker.

Someone else also mentioned that, which I wasn't aware of. I guess with Orr, there is always an exception though.

[THammers]

Originally Posted by irv

Thanks guys, I appreciate the info.

At this point I think I am going to pass on trying to get a Makar YG, unless I get lucky and find one cheap?

When I was back looking somewhat aggressively, I said screw this after getting beat out on too many auctions and decided to chase a Stature #/85 card instead, which I won.
Figured with only 85 of this particular card and likely literally 100's, if not thousands of YG's, I assumed this card was the smarter buy?

There are definitely thousands of YGs. That's a sweet looking card, hopefully you got it for a good price too.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Clark

That's a nice card! Serial numbered, on card auto....it checks the right boxes. I think you will see the YG come down in price. Defenders usually lose their hype quicker.

Originally Posted by THammers

There are definitely thousands of YGs. That's a sweet looking card, hopefully you got it for a good price too.

Thanks guys!

I paid a little over $130 CDN for it in an EBay auction. I'm not sure if that is a great price or not, but I am extremely happy with it and have no plans to sell it in the foreseeable future.