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[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by achantl

Awesome, thank you! You sure you don't want to add it to your collection? Haha, I know we talked about it, but also know you went in a different direction.

Would love to see some pictures of the set once you get it all done!

Yes, as pretty as that card is, I have to save for a Trout. I'm trying to have some discipline. Ha. I'll probably just post pictures in this thread once I'm done which I'm hoping is before the New Year.

Edited to add: Page 260!

[Archangel1775]

Bumping to the top of 260, I still cant believe you got that out of a few packs from Houdini's repack boxes.

Originally Posted by achantl

I don't know if it's been added to the list, but I recently pulled the Alonso Super
from one pack of this that came out of one of Houdini's mystery boxes! Was pretty happy with that!

[IMG]IMG_0021 by Aaron Chantler, on Flickr[/IMG]

[Archangel1775]

Autographs (12 of 34 Accounted for)
Brendan McCay (Auto)
Cavan Biggio (Auto)
DJ Lemahieu (Auto) (Sold eBay 8/19)
Gavin Lux (Auto) (Houdini)
Jose Altuve (Auto) (On Facebook)
JT Realmuto (Auto)
Kris Bryant (Auto)(Not on original checklist)
Kyle Lewis (Auto)
Mike Yastremski (Auto) (Sold via blowout boards)
Nico Hoerner (Auto) (Twitter)
Pete Alonso Auto (Strahm's Stadium Pulls)
Rhys Hoskins Auto (BO Member)

Superfractor Autograph Odds: 1:5,765
69,180 packs to get to 12 above (Assuming perfect collation)
3,844 boxes to get to 12 above (18 packs per box)

BASE SUPERFRACTORS (77/199 Accounted for)
*14 more tracked since last update(Page 250)

Aaron Civale (PSA 10)
Adam Ottavino (IG)
Albert Pujols (Blowout Member)
Alex Bregman (eBay)
Andrelton Simmons (eBay)
Andrew Benintendi (Sold eBay 8/20)
Aristides Aquino (eBay)
Aroldis Chapman (eBay)
Brian Anderson (Shown on BO)
Bryce Harper (Buffi Blowout Group Break)
Cody Bellinger (Revealed on facebook)
Corey Seager
David Dahl
DJ Lemahieu
Domingo Leyba (Sold eBay 8/13)
Dylan Cease
Eduardo Escobar (Sold eBay 8/23)
Eugenio Suarez (Houdini Break)
Eloy Jimenez (Houdini Group Break)
Fernando Tatis Jr.(BGS 9.5)
Francisco Lindor (sold eBay 8/8)
Gary Sanchez
Gavin Lux (Dad&Kids Breakers)
Gio Urshela (BO Member)
Gleyber Torres (PSA 10)
Harold Ramirez
Hyun Jin Ryu
Isan Diaz
Jack Flaherty (PSA 10)
Javier Baez (All Star)
Javier Baez
Jesus Luzardo (eBay)
Joey Gallo
Jon Lester (Current eBay Auction)
Jorge Soler (Houdini Private Break)
Jose Altuve (BGS 9.5)
Jose Berrios
Josh Hader
Josh Reddick (BO member Bubbershrimp)
Junior Fernandez (Sold eBay 8/19)
Justin Verlander (eBay)
Keston Hiura (BGS 9.5)
Ketel Marte
Khris Davis
Kirby Yates (Houdini Private break)
Kris Bryant (Wiffle Group Break)
Lourdes Gurriel Jr. (BGS 10)
Lucas Giolito
Luis Robert (Twitter)
Manny Machado
Marcus Semien (eBay)
Marcus Stroman
Miguel Cabrera (Wiffle Breakers)
Mike Soroka (eBay)
Mike Trout (Sold eBay 8/11)
Mike Yastrzemski (eBay)
Miles Mikolas
Nolan Arenado
Pete Alonso (BO Member)
Robbie Ray (eBay)
Ronald Acuna (PSA 10)
Ryan Braun (BO Member)
Sam Hilliard (eBay)
Shin Soo Choo
Stephen Strasburg (Sold eBay 8/25)
Steven Matz (Mentioned in this thread)
Trea Turner (Monster Hits Club YT)
Trent Grisham (PSA 9)(Also BGS 9.5)
Trevor Bauer (Wiffle Breakers)
Tyler Glasnow (eBay)
Victor Robles (Buffi Blowout)
Vladimir Guererro Jr. (on eBay)
Walker Buehler
Whit Merrifield
Willians Astudillo (PSA 10)
Xander Boegarts (BO Member)
Yadier Molina (posted in this thread)



Superfractor Odds: 1:880 (Base)
67,760 Packs opened to get to 77 above (Assuming perfect collation)
3,765 Boxes to get to 77 above (18 packs per box)[/QUOTE]

RECENT ADDITIONS-Will Update every 10th page:
Bubba Starling (PSA 10)
Juan Soto
Dustin May
Masahiro Tanaka
Ahmed Rosario
Jorge Polanco (IG)
Matt Chapman (Wiffle Breakers Group Break 7)
Yu Chang (BO Member)
Jorge Polanco (BO Member)
Giancarlo Stanton
Christian Yelich Auto (BO Member)
Mookie Betts (Blez 2 Break)

[achantl]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Yes, as pretty as that card is, I have to save for a Trout. I'm trying to have some discipline. Ha. I'll probably just post pictures in this thread once I'm done which I'm hoping is before the New Year.

Edited to add: Page 260!

I totally get it, just had to throw it out there again!

I can't to see some pictures of your collection. Hopefully you can finish the set before New Year!

[achantl]

You're telling me! I was pretty excited. Not a bad pull for literally one pack out of the mystery box. I missed the boat on the product when it was on pre-sale through Topps so never opened any until this pack!

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Bumping to the top of 260, I still cant believe you got that out of a few packs from Houdini's repack boxes.

[NextRightCard]

So this was probably a newbie mistake...

Thrilled with the Trout base refractor I pulled, I merrily sent it off to BGS feeling pretty certain it would be the first BGS 10 in the population. The grades showed up online today and at first I was a little surprised:

Centering: 9.5
Corners: 9.0
Edges: 9.0

At this point, I'm thinking, "Hah. Okay I have a terrible eye for this sort of thing. Sure, whatever." And then comes...

Surfaces: 2.0

So, ummm, it seems like the 2 options are that I'm blind, or something happened in shipping. FWIW, I had the card packaged in a penny sleeve, in a card saver, sealed in a little plastic one touch pouch, attached with painters tape in between 2 pieces of cardboard, inside a small bubble mailer that fit the cardboard like a glove. Unfortunately, I did not take a picture of the card before sending it to BGS (USPS priority). Any guesses what happened? Do I have any recourse, given that I do not have a before photo?

On the plus side, it really is a POP 1!

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by NextRightCard

So this was probably a newbie mistake...

Thrilled with the Trout base refractor I pulled, I merrily sent it off to BGS feeling pretty certain it would be the first BGS 10 in the population. The grades showed up online today and at first I was a little surprised:

Centering: 9.5
Corners: 9.0
Edges: 9.0

At this point, I'm thinking, "Hah. Okay I have a terrible eye for this sort of thing. Sure, whatever." And then comes...

Surfaces: 2.0

So, ummm, it seems like the 2 options are that I'm blind, or something happened in shipping. FWIW, I had the card packaged in a penny sleeve, in a card saver, sealed in a little plastic one touch pouch, attached with painters tape in between 2 pieces of cardboard, inside a small bubble mailer that fit the cardboard like a glove. Unfortunately, I did not take a picture of the card before sending it to BGS (USPS priority). Any guesses what happened? Do I have any recourse, given that I do not have a before photo?

On the plus side, it really is a POP 1!

Wait till you get it back and look for a wrinkle or paper loss on the back. Wouldn't be so quick to blame usps or bgs, though they are both often incompetent.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by NextRightCard

So this was probably a newbie mistake...

Thrilled with the Trout base refractor I pulled, I merrily sent it off to BGS feeling pretty certain it would be the first BGS 10 in the population. The grades showed up online today and at first I was a little surprised:

Centering: 9.5
Corners: 9.0
Edges: 9.0

At this point, I'm thinking, "Hah. Okay I have a terrible eye for this sort of thing. Sure, whatever." And then comes...

Surfaces: 2.0

So, ummm, it seems like the 2 options are that I'm blind, or something happened in shipping. FWIW, I had the card packaged in a penny sleeve, in a card saver, sealed in a little plastic one touch pouch, attached with painters tape in between 2 pieces of cardboard, inside a small bubble mailer that fit the cardboard like a glove. Unfortunately, I did not take a picture of the card before sending it to BGS (USPS priority). Any guesses what happened? Do I have any recourse, given that I do not have a before photo?

On the plus side, it really is a POP 1!

I'm going with option B....a lot of boxes go their way. From what I understand they pick them up from the UPS/FedEx/USPS location and some get delivered. Wherever it ended up to get crushed, smashed our rolled thru a machine....that's probably what happened.

This is Beckett's description although only a subgrade in your case, this still applies

This is VG/EX 4
Surface: Heavy print spots. Hairline creases. Moderate color or focus imperfections. Moderate border discoloration. Moderate wax stains. Very light ink mark or tape stain. A good deal of gloss lost from surface. Very minor scuffing or an extremely subtle tear in the form of a touch of broken surface paper.

This is Very Good 3
Surface: Heavy print spots. Very minor creases. Noticeable color or focus imperfections. Noticeable border discoloration. Noticeable wax stains. Light ink mark or tape stain. Very little surface gloss. Minor scuffing or a very minor tear.

This is Good 2

Surface: Severe print spots. Noticeable creases. Noticeable color or focus imperfections. Noticeable border discoloration. Heavy wax stains. Moderate ink mark or tape stain. A surface devoid of gloss. Noticeable scuffing or a noticeable tear.

[Maxcd]

Ripped the two boxes I’ve stashed since July. Not thrilled with the hit and thought the black was Robert at first. I think I did well relative to these being $55 a box, but not at them being $400 a box.


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[NCWolf]

Originally Posted by Maxcd

Ripped the two boxes I’ve stashed since July. Not thrilled with the hit and thought the black was Robert at first. I think I did well relative to these being $55 a box, but not at them being $400 a box.


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I’ve seen a lot worse.

[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by Maxcd

Ripped the two boxes I’ve stashed since July. Not thrilled with the hit and thought the black was Robert at first. I think I did well relative to these being $55 a box, but not at them being $400 a box.


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Those two boxes are solid! Better than my two (I got all those same RCs except for Robert, I had Aquino instead : /). Not every box can have a $500+ monster...

[gamboooler]

Given how far base sales have fallen, I wish anyone opening these at current prices the best of luck. Would've liked to open a couple on Christmas, but I think these are $200-250 boxes, value wise, at this point.

[trendy26]

Originally Posted by gamboooler

Given how far base sales have fallen, I wish anyone opening these at current prices the best of luck. Would've liked to open a couple on Christmas, but I think these are $200-250 boxes, value wise, at this point.

Couldn’t agree more. It used to be that the base provided a lot of great value relative to the price of the box, but now that LouBob’s selling around $80, it’s tough to salvage the value if you don’t hit any good refractors. I’m hoping value does come back down the road, as I feel there’s a lot of potential with this set. Unfortunately I don’t see boxes falling below the $375 - $425 mark which is where they’ve basically settled in at.

[sjk4g5]

yeah i can probably convince myself to buy some to rip at $350 just because there are so many supers still out there and i just love this product so much, but at this point anything in the 400s is a pass for me unfortunately

[sjk4g5]

still looking for these Cubs if anyone is looking to sell

- Baez Red /5
- Baez All-Star Black /25
- Schwarber Superfractor
- Hoerner Gold /50
- Hoerner Red /5
- Alzolay Superfractor
- Contreras Red /5
- Contreras Superfractor
- Bryant Red /5

[cj828282]

What does everyone think about having boxtopper parallels next year? refractors, gold, red and supers.

[ClevelandIC]

Originally Posted by cj828282

What does everyone think about having boxtopper parallels next year? refractors, gold, red and supers.

I fully expect Topps to do something. Whether its autos or parallels or both, they will do something.

[CollectKep26]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Back to the top. I'm down to only a few left for my All Color set but still need over 35 silver refractors. Let me know what you have for sale!Thanks!

I've got a Kepler Black that's currently on eBay. Also a Kepler Silver that is available.

[Hollywood42]

Hope not but they probably will

Originally Posted by cj828282

What does everyone think about having boxtopper parallels next year? refractors, gold, red and supers.

Have a red by chance? Haven't seen one yet, that's one of the 3 Twins I still need!

Originally Posted by CollectKep26

I've got a Kepler Black that's currently on eBay. Also a Kepler Silver that is available.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by CollectKep26

I've got a Kepler Black that's currently on eBay. Also a Kepler Silver that is available.

Thanks for the reply, I actually just spent my budget for this month unfortunately. Project 2020 reeled me back in with Matt Taylor's Mike Trout. I'll PM you about the Silver Kepler when I'm able to reload.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by cj828282

What does everyone think about having boxtopper parallels next year? refractors, gold, red and supers.

Maybe Autos. I hope there aren't any parallel colors.

[CollectKep26]

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

Hope not but they probably will



Have a red by chance? Haven't seen one yet, that's one of the 3 Twins I still need!

I do not have a red, I haven't seen one come up for sale yet as far as I know. Haven't seen one pulled in any breaks either...

[Archangel1775]

A few recent auctions surprised:

Mike Trout Silver $597
Aaron Judge Silver $131
Mookie Betts Gold $231
Bo Bichette Silver $343
Vlad Jr Silver $157

Recent Graded Auctions: (Last 60 DAYS)

Juan Soto Red PSA 10 $1330
Bryce Harper Red PSA 10 $480
Keston Hiura Silver PSA 10 $131
Carlos Correa Black PSA 10 $48
Jose Altuve Gold PSA 10 $66
Gavin Lux Silver PSA 10 $1000
Ronald Acuna Gold PSA 10 $695
Kyle Lewis Gold PSA 10 $299
Steven Matz Gold PSA 9 $10
Bubba Starling Silver PSA 9 $19
Kyle Lewis Black PSA 9 $167


LouBob Black BGS 9.5 $3200 (29 Nov) PWCC *cert ending 1216
LouBob Black PSA 10 $2650 (27 Nov)
LouBob Silver BGS 9.5 $963 (14 Nov)
LouBob Black BGS 9.5 $5861 (18 Oct) PWCC *cert ending 1216
LouBob Gold PSA 9 $1190 (13 Oct)
LouBob Black BGS 9.5 $2523 (8 Oct)


Mike Trout Gold BGS 9.5 $650 (26 Nov)
Mike Trout Silver BGS 9.5 $867 (22 Nov)
Mike Trout Silver BGS 9.5 $1259 (7 Nov)
Mike Trout Black PSA 9 $968 (2 Nov)
Mike Trout Gold PSA 9 $685 (1 Nov)
Mike Trout Gold PSA 10 $1334 (18 Oct)

Some observations:
Boxes sold out at DACardworld at $375 and sit on ebay at $425.
Singles prices are trending down unless you're Vladimir Jr or Mookie Betts. Lux being higher than Kyle Lewis is nuts. People still love Aaron Judge.Golds are selling less than silvers but I think its been that way since the beginning. Grading doesn't seem to get better value unless you're Lux. PWCC gets the better prices.

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

A few recent auctions surprised:

Mike Trout Silver $597
Aaron Judge Silver $131
Mookie Betts Gold $231
Bo Bichette Silver $343
Vlad Jr Silver $157

Recent Graded Auctions: (Last 60 DAYS)

Juan Soto Red PSA 10 $1330
Bryce Harper Red PSA 10 $480
Keston Hiura Silver PSA 10 $131
Carlos Correa Black PSA 10 $48
Jose Altuve Gold PSA 10 $66
Gavin Lux Silver PSA 10 $1000
Ronald Acuna Gold PSA 10 $695
Kyle Lewis Gold PSA 10 $299
Steven Matz Gold PSA 9 $10
Bubba Starling Silver PSA 9 $19
Kyle Lewis Black PSA 9 $167


LouBob Black BGS 9.5 $3200 (29 Nov) PWCC *cert ending 1216
LouBob Black PSA 10 $2650 (27 Nov)
LouBob Silver BGS 9.5 $963 (14 Nov)
LouBob Black BGS 9.5 $5861 (18 Oct) PWCC *cert ending 1216
LouBob Gold PSA 9 $1190 (13 Oct)
LouBob Black BGS 9.5 $2523 (8 Oct)


Mike Trout Gold BGS 9.5 $650 (26 Nov)
Mike Trout Silver BGS 9.5 $867 (22 Nov)
Mike Trout Silver BGS 9.5 $1259 (7 Nov)
Mike Trout Black PSA 9 $968 (2 Nov)
Mike Trout Gold PSA 9 $685 (1 Nov)
Mike Trout Gold PSA 10 $1334 (18 Oct)

Some observations:
Boxes sold out at DACardworld at $375 and sit on ebay at $425.
Singles prices are trending down unless you're Vladimir Jr or Mookie Betts. Lux being higher than Kyle Lewis is nuts. People still love Aaron Judge.Golds are selling less than silvers but I think its been that way since the beginning. Grading doesn't seem to get better value unless you're Lux. PWCC gets the better prices.

I was a bit surprised that trout didn't break 600 as well. The tru gem++ only got 270 more so it isn't jaw dropping, but how prices have fallen. I think we see a rebound on the rare stuff down the line.

[trendy26]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

I was a bit surprised that trout didn't break 600 as well. The tru gem++ only got 270 more so it isn't jaw dropping, but how prices have fallen. I think we see a rebound on the rare stuff down the line.

Once baseball season picks up again, prices should trend up..... In the long term, this entire set should hold value very well