2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[rcmb3220]

Originally Posted by chezball

here's the other option, so you can see nursing home joe ain't your president.
On January 6th Congress will convene to count the electoral votes. At this time the sitting VP, Mike Pence, has the ability to challenge by refusing to accept the votes from states in which he believes the vote was compromised. Which - he will do.7. The Second Vote - As directed by the US Federal constitution - a challenged election is settled by a simple majority house vote by ballot. However, the house gets one vote per state not per representative - Giving Trump the Republican majority 26-23 (or 22). Winner takes all.

Ah yes, the fiat power of the VP as laid out in the constitution.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by chezball

here's the other option, so you can see nursing home joe ain't your president.

On January 6th Congress will convene to count the electoral votes. At this time the sitting VP, Mike Pence, has the ability to challenge by refusing to accept the votes from states in which he believes the vote was compromised. Which - he will do.7. The Second Vote - As directed by the US Federal constitution - a challenged election is settled by a simple majority house vote by ballot. However, the house gets one vote per state not per representative - Giving Trump the Republican majority 26-23 (or 22). Winner takes all.

This is a genius plan. Genius!!! I say go for it, Pubs! Woooooo.

Option B: put down the shovel.

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[chezball]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

I would say put your account on the line but you’re too funny to not be heard from again.

Trump lost the Popular vote.
Trump lost the Electoral vote.
Trump is finished as President for at least 4 years on January 20, 2021.

What will you tell us on January 20, 2021 when Joe Biden is sworn in as the 46th POTUS? Will it be Trump with a Scooby Doo-esque Biden mask on?

I would have been POTUS if it weren’t for the meddling kids!

I don't have to worry about what I have to say. If you honestly think nursing home joe got 80 mil votes I feel sorry for you. None of that stuff you wrote above matters.

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by chezball

I don't have to worry about what I have to say. If you honestly think nursing home joe got 80 mil votes I feel sorry for you. None of that stuff you wrote above matters.

In all seriousness, can you give us a timeline of what will occur in this alternate reality?

[chezball]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

In all seriousness, can you give us a timeline of what will occur in this alternate reality?

The Ratcliffe report should come out this week, has to be on or before the 18th.
Not sure if he'll mention the server or not. You know the one that fake news you told you didn't exist and you believed them.
Speaking of the server, what are you going to say when it's shown to be real?

[xbignick]

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by xbignick

Vaccine

And a gentle reminder that "experts" in the medial field suggested, without equivocation, that a vaccine before the end of the year was

IMPOSSIBLE.

https://twitter.com/11thHour/status/1261502069757800454

[ballhawkdawk]

Trump cured the Chinese virus.

Great president?

or greatest president?

[chezball]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

Trump cured the Chinese virus.

Great president?

or greatest president?

the latter

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

Trump cured the Chinese virus.

Great president?

or greatest president?

I'd go with soon to be former president.

Trump did not cure anything. Experts did.

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[mike1498]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

I'd go with soon to be former president.

Trump did not cure anything. Experts did.

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You said months ago that trump didn’t have the right experts

[chezball]

Originally Posted by mike1498

You said months ago that trump didn’t have the right experts

How dare you, bringing up one of her prior posts.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by mike1498

You said months ago that trump didn’t have the right experts

No matter the accomplishment of this administration; it's like pulling teeth for her and many others to admit success. I mean; how many in here continue to say Donald Trump is a failure (not as President but in business)? Then these same people will say that the we have a problem with how we absorb information and how terrible social media is etc. The irony.

It is OK to admit this administration generated an amazing success in getting a vaccine developed and distributed all in the same year. A modern day miracle as many have said! It is also OK to admit this administration was a complete and abject failure when it comes to creating a succinct and affordable health care. They both can be true at the same time and they both live in reality.

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

No matter the accomplishment of this administration; it's like pulling teeth for her and many others to admit success. I mean; how many in here continue to say Donald Trump is a failure (not as President but in business)? Then these same people will say that the we have a problem with how we absorb information and how terrible social media is etc. The irony.

It is OK to admit this administration generated an amazing success in getting a vaccine developed and distributed all in the same year. A modern day miracle as many have said! It is also OK to admit this administration was a complete and abject failure when it comes to creating a succinct and affordable health care. They both can be true at the same time and they both live in reality.

Yeah I agree. Not even a fan of trump and I think he had missteps along the way, but I felt overall this could’ve been a lot worse especially given the Dems didn’t want to work with him. And even when it seems to be positive indications for the future, it’s still somehow trumps fault. I can’t imagine being this angry at one individual.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by mike1498

Yeah I agree. Not even a fan of trump and I think he had missteps along the way, but I felt overall this could’ve been a lot worse especially given the Dems didn’t want to work with him. And even when it seems to be positive indications for the future, it’s still somehow trumps fault. I can’t imagine being this angry at one individual.

It's not just Trump. What people fail to recognize at this very moment is that in three+ short years, when a new Republican is nominated by the party as the candidate for POTUS, that person will be far worse than Donald Trump in every way. Hard to comprehend right now but I promise it will happen. Nikki Haley / Ron DeSantis / Dan Crensahw / Kristy Noem ... whomever.

George Bush was Hitler. Mitt Romney was Hitler. And soon, someone else will become Hitler. Ask Ted Cruz / Marco Rubio.

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

It's not just Trump. What people fail to recognize at this very moment is that in three+ short years, when a new Republican is nominated by the party as the candidate for POTUS, that person will be far worse than Donald Trump in every way. Hard to comprehend right now but I promise it will happen. Nikki Haley / Ron DeSantis / Dan Crensahw / Kristy Noem ... whomever.

George Bush was Hitler. Mitt Romney was Hitler. And soon, someone else will become Hitler. Ask Ted Cruz / Marco Rubio.

To be honest, Ted Cruz scares me more than Trump too. I think Cruz is 100% a puppet. I just think Trump ran for the his ego and wasn’t as prepared as other canadaties would. I’m curious to see how bad Haley gets it. Cruz I wouldn’t be surprised and somewhat deserves it in my opinion.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by mike1498

You said months ago that trump didn’t have the right experts

Haha yes at times he did not. A little snipe out of context kinda makes you look like CNN. If that's what you're going for here, well done.

He started with some good people, then he got some not-so-good people. It's been a crazy ride.

Trump's experts didn't cure Covid either. Phizers did. (Actually "cure" isn't the right word, but let's go with it anyway.)

Trump was smart enough, along with Congress, to throw a bunch of money at a vaccine. He deserves some credit for that. He listened to a few people early on that had the right idea, Warp Speed. It doesn't undo all the other bungled, but it is a positive and Trump did have a role in it. Credit where it's due.

But Trump didn't develop a vaccine, haha. He didn't personally "cure" anything. He just threw a ton of money at pretty much everybody in the industry, which was the right move.

The initial team, Fauci, Birx et al, was pretty good in my opinion. Once he started maneuvering around with those other idiots, things got stupid fast. Fortunately Warp Speed had already been implemented.

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[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by mike1498

To be honest, Ted Cruz scares me more than Trump too. I think Cruz is 100% a puppet. I just think Trump ran for the his ego and wasn’t as prepared as other canadines would. I’m curious to see how bad Haley gets it. Cruz I wouldn’t be surprised and somewhat deserves it in my opinion.

(You made me chuckle).

Haley is pro-life, anti-illegal immigration, big proponent of voter ID and she's pro-death penalty. We're going to get pummeled from people who suggest that someone cannot be pro-death penalty and pro-life at the same time. Get ready!

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

Haha yes at times he did not. A little snipe out of context kinda makes you look like CNN. If that's what you're going for here, well done.

He started with some good people, then he got some not-so-good people. It's been a crazy ride.

Trump's experts didn't cure Covid either. Phizers did. (Actually "cure" isn't the right word, but let's go with it anyway.)

Trump was smart enough, along with Congress, to throw a bunch of money at a vaccine. He deserves some credit for that. He listened to a few people early on that had the right idea, Warp Speed. It doesn't undo all the other bungled, but it is a positive and Trump did have a role in it. Credit where it's due.

But Trump didn't develop a vaccine, haha. He didn't personally "cure" anything. He just threw a ton of money at pretty much everybody in the industry, which was the right move.

The initial team, Fauci, Birx et al, was pretty good in my opinion. Once he started maneuvering around with those other idiots, things got stupid fast. Fortunately Warp Speed had already been implemented.

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Just admit you hate trump and save us all time in this thread of you trying to constantly rationalize your hypocrisies. You will blame him if the sky is blue and once the sky is blue you’ll say it wasn’t your shade of blue.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

No matter the accomplishment of this administration; it's like pulling teeth for her and many others to admit success. I mean; how many in here continue to say Donald Trump is a failure (not as President but in business)? Then these same people will say that the we have a problem with how we absorb information and how terrible social media is etc. The irony.

It is OK to admit this administration generated an amazing success in getting a vaccine developed and distributed all in the same year. A modern day miracle as many have said! It is also OK to admit this administration was a complete and abject failure when it comes to creating a succinct and affordable health care. They both can be true at the same time and they both live in reality.

No need to lump me in with others or put words in my mouth.

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[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by mike1498

Just admit you hate trump and save us all time in this thread of you trying to constantly rationalize your hypocrisies. You will blame him if the sky is blue and once the sky is blue you’ll say it wasn’t your shade of blue.

The first line of defense is to argue the sky is not blue and it is Trump's fault.

The second line of defense is to argue "is the sky really blue?"

The final line of defense is to argue that Trump really doesn't deserve credit for the blue sky, he had nothing to do w/ it.

Rinse. Repeat.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

It's not just Trump. What people fail to recognize at this very moment is that in three+ short years, when a new Republican is nominated by the party as the candidate for POTUS, that person will be far worse than Donald Trump in every way. Hard to comprehend right now but I promise it will happen. Nikki Haley / Ron DeSantis / Dan Crensahw / Kristy Noem ... whomever.

George Bush was Hitler. Mitt Romney was Hitler. And soon, someone else will become Hitler. Ask Ted Cruz / Marco Rubio.

I'd personally say Trump, Cruz, and DeSantis are equally scary. DeSantis is a major douche. I'd say he's a tad better than Rick Scott but not much. All three are horrible.

Would it be so hard for the pubs to nominate a person with integrity? There are lots of respectable pubs out there. Those three are not among them though.

After this Trump debacle, the Dems are really going to have to screw up badly to lose in 2024. Trump mangled his own party. That being said, the Dems have a habit of shooting themselves in the foot. They'll prolly do something stupid like nominate Kamala or worse, AOC.

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[Clark]

A forensic audit of Dominion Voting Systems machines and software in Michigan showed that they were designed to create fraud and influence election results, a data firm said Monday.

“We conclude that the Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results,” Russell Ramsland Jr., co-founder of Allied Security Operations Group, said in a preliminary report.

“The system intentionally generates an enormously high number of ballot errors. The electronic ballots are then transferred for adjudication. The intentional errors lead to bulk adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency, and no audit trail. This leads to voter or election fraud. Based on our study, we conclude that The Dominion Voting System should not be used in Michigan. We further conclude that the results of Antrim County should not have been certified,” he added.

Full Report

https://www.scribd.com/document/4880...ves#from_embed

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

(You made me chuckle).

Haley is pro-life, anti-illegal immigration, big proponent of voter ID and she's pro-death penalty. We're going to get pummeled from people who suggest that someone cannot be pro-death penalty and pro-life at the same time. Get ready!

Haha sounds like my kind of candidate.

I'm not sure on Voter ID, but I'd like to see extra security of some type. I'd like to see a secure, verifiable way to vote without it being in-person.

Pro-life, pro-death and anti-illegal immigration all sound good to me.



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[mike1498]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

I'd personally say Trump, Cruz, and DeSantis are equally scary. DeSantis is a major douche. I'd say he's a tad better than Rick Scott but not much. All three are horrible.

Would it be so hard for the pubs to nominate a person with integrity? There are lots of respectable pubs out there. Those three are not among them though.

After this Trump debacle, the Dems are really going to have to screw up badly to lose in 2024. Trump mangled his own party. That being said, the Dems have a habit of shooting themselves in the foot. They'll prolly do something stupid like nominate Kamala or worse, AOC.

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Dems are gonna have to screw up badly to lose...

This was the same party that was about to nominate Bernie sanders who ended up losing to a 70 year old man with dementia.

Which says even more that trump lost to this guy.

Point being, both parties are so far past bad it’s hard to even keep tallies