**The Perennial JUAN SOTO Thread!**

[ThoseBackPages]

about 23 months ago now, it must have been, a friend and i were discussing 2018 Update Retail odds

in our discussions, between us we had on hand: Hobby, Jumbo, Blaster, Fat Pack, Hanger Box Odds, but neither of us had the regular retail odds (the 24ct box)

so, i bit the bullet and bought one for ~$35 delivered. You know, in the name of research lol





Good Times indeed!

i know its no longer factory sealed, but im ok with that

[Snakeonia]

Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

Ugh, it's that guy with his fancy "void warranty" stickers.

Gross.

Ive bought from 19th. He is proud of his stuff and prices it as such, dont blame him. Shipped fast and packaged nice. He is on blowout but dont know his handle.


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[REGGIE206]

$1700 for a raw 2018 TC Update #HMT55 Refractor /250 on eBay! WOW!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/383716604203

[wharfrat7624]

Originally Posted by REGGIE206

$1700 for a raw 2018 TC Update #HMT55 Refractor /250 on eBay! WOW!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/383716604203

Wow! I picked up a PSA 10 for $2k three months ago...


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[KhalDrogo]

Last PSA 10 did $3500. $1700 seems pretty good barring any significant damage.

[brewtown107]

^Agree.

HMT55 refractor /250 is the (licensed) equivalent of Soto's "Silver Prizm", and it's limited to 250 numbered copies. Total print run of serial numbered HMT55 refractors--including the non-autos and the sticker autos in all the colors--is 631.

The modern baseball market (outside of Trout) is not nearly as insane as the basketball market on the high end, where numbered Luka Prizm parallels are pulling tens of thousands of dollars.

But this is a tiny print run for desirable Chrome RC parallels of baseball's best young hitter. There aren't many of these available at any given time. So I think this number is totally reasonable for a raw copy (presuming it's Nrmt-Mt).

Just my opinion, and I will candidly reveal it's a little biased, as I have a little stash of HMT55 numbered refractors. But I'm not a seller at that price, if that's an indication.

[rfgilles]

I bought mine raw for $690 on April 20, 2020. It graded PSA 10.

[SGC300ier]

Such a beautiful card.

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[monkeymcgee]

I sold a HMT55 refractor raw for $163 in July 2019. I sold two more for a little more earlier that year

That may end up going up there with my gold heritage refractor going for $850.

[lauriontj]

I almost bought the refractor /250 last year, but got a really good deal (at the time) for this. I think I paid $1150 for it:

[HarryLime]

Originally Posted by Some Guy

Want an opinion from everyone. I picked this up for under $1000. 9/10 bgs 1/1 printing plate auto with sick patch. Good price?




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Printing plates seem to be more of a personal taste thing but that is a really nice signature of his and a really nice patch. Congrats!

Arthur

[wharfrat7624]

Originally Posted by lauriontj

I almost bought the refractor /250 last year, but got a really good deal (at the time) for this. I think I paid $1150 for it:

That’s a beauty! I need one...


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[26TagOut]

That x-fractor is so nice!!

Pack pulled /250 - will send to PSA at some point.

[Some Guy]

I bought a refractor and xfractor lot both PSA 10 for $2100 last year on the forum. I sold the xfractor for $3300 in June to a local guy. Still have the refractor but wish I didn’t sell the xfractor


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[rngrdanny22]

My best two Soto purchases:

#1 - 12/1/2018
HMT55 Red Refractor
$626.79 (includes grading fee)
Graded BGS 9.5 True Gem+ w/ 10 Centering


#2 - 11/27/2018
HMT55 X-Fractor
$221.15 (includes grading fee)
Graded PSA 10


......... and 100's of HMT55's at an average cost of $12.24 (all prior to April 2019)

[LVDan]

As much as my usual response would be “what??!” The reality is this is just Soto coming in line with the other big young stars in the sport. The fact that he has far less cards available just underlines the thought of “what took so long?” The TU and TCU stuff for Soto is on at level above everyone else because there is really no debate as to his best cards. If he proves to be Pujols like in his production these things literally have an unlimited trajectory. Congrats to all you guys who got on board before the most recent thrusters we’re engaged!


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[Some Guy]

So which is mor valuable. Just say you have two of the same rookie auto Soto. 1 is PSA 9 (no auto grade) or BGS 9.5 with 9 auto?


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[HarryLime]

Originally Posted by Some Guy

So which is mor valuable. Just say you have two of the same rookie auto Soto. 1 is PSA 9 (no auto grade) or BGS 9.5 with 9 auto?


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I'm going to assume that the BGS 9.5 has a 9 subgrade, which almost certainly means it once resided in a PSA 9 holder. However, I suppose you could find a die hard Beckett lifer who buys into the Gemminess of that 9.5 and end up getting more money for it than the PSA 9 so I'd go BGS 9.5.

Now, if the BGS 9.5 is a true gem then I obviously choose that one, crack it out, and send it in to PSA and see if it 10s.

Arthur

[lauriontj]

That PSA 8 Black is so tempting. I feel like the owner raised the price in the last few days..

[mangia1976]

Originally Posted by REGGIE206

$1700 for a raw 2018 TC Update #HMT55 Refractor /250 on eBay! WOW!



https://www.ebay.com/itm/383716604203

Totally blown away by this! I'm watching the BGS 9.5 which ends tonight and is already at $1775. I bought this version in 2019 and had my eye on comps since.

I think this hit $2k during last season and thought for sure it wouldn't sniff that again until regular season with a hot start by Juanny.

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[monkeymcgee]

Originally Posted by lauriontj

That PSA 8 Black is so tempting. I feel like the owner raised the price in the last few days..

He did—it was originally just under $6k

[towerymt]

Originally Posted by lauriontj

That PSA 8 Black is so tempting. I feel like the owner raised the price in the last few days..

This thread bumped the price

[REGGIE206]

Originally Posted by monkeymcgee

I sold a HMT55 refractor raw for $163 in July 2019. I sold two more for a little more earlier that year

That may end up going up there with my gold heritage refractor going for $850.

If you sold one of them here via PM, I think I was one of your buyers..

[RookieAddict]

Bought this a couple years ago not intending on keeping it for long. But glad I did.

[Neal]

Soto 2021
MVP

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