John Collins + Kevin Huerter - Page 2

ninjacookies · 09-09-2019, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bberns

I actually think that Shawn Kemp is a decent comp for Collins. People like Kemp, but he's not a hobby icon. That might be different if he and the Glove had won a title, but Kemp's win share neighbors aren't exactly amazing.

https://www.basketball-reference.com...ws_career.html

I also agree with 538 that Domantas Sabonis is similar to Collins. Sabonis had a sneaky great year last year and before you say that Sabonis isn't the athlete that Collins is, go watch some Youtube of Sabonis posterizing some guys. Dude can throw it down with the best of them.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com.../john-collins/

Huerter....hobby meh

Good comps for sure. I think it's a bit unfair Collins gets lumped in for his dunking ability (his slam dunk competition appearance may have something to do with it), since he is an inside outside player.

But it's a lot easier to get lost in the hobby mix when you're not a legit 2 way player with all star numbers as a big man. Just way too many of 'those guys' to gain any serious attention once you've passed your rookie season.

tylerperro · 09-09-2019, 04:06 AM

If I had money to burn I'd buy every cheap Huerter card I saw. Not the case though

yiguiri2002 · 09-09-2019, 10:20 AM

I don't get why people use Griffin as a bad example for Collins.

Look at Griffin's prices - not peak prices but current ones. Past his prime, playing in Detroit...his RPAs are about as expensive as Collins (around 900). If Collins does become a player as good as Griffin in his prime in a team with as much hype as Blake's Clippers, his prices will increase.

Does he have a chance to be as good as Blake? Yep. Will his prices increase if he does? Most likely. Should he be as expensive as Blake is right now? No, but that's the hobby nowadays.

grizjunkie23 · 09-09-2019, 10:34 AM

I’m a fan of Huerter. He gets overlooked because of how strong the 2018 class was, but is young and efficient. As his usage rate increases, so should his numbers. He may never be a hobby darling, but for how cheap he is right now, it feels like a no-brainer.

daeve · 01-01-2021, 10:11 PM

Went back 5 pages and this was as close as it gets to an official Collins thread...

For shame, would've guessed the cesspool would've provided several official hype threads by now.

In honor of his polar baptism of Mr Allen tonight, dug out my blue ice from the pc box to get this thread breathing again

Mahomie · 01-01-2021, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daeve

Went back 5 pages and this was as close as it gets to an official Collins thread...

For shame, would've guessed the cesspool would've provided several official hype threads by now.

In honor of his polar baptism of Mr Allen tonight, dug out my blue ice from the pc box to get this thread breathing again

Nice card - that dunk was insane.

Spacemanspif · 01-01-2021, 11:06 PM

My top 3:

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Mahomie · 01-01-2021, 11:17 PM

^^^those are beautiful

daeve · 01-01-2021, 11:40 PM

Yeah nice stuff, I've got a Galactic as well, love the 17-18s!

Kobefan · 01-02-2021, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bberns

I actually think that Shawn Kemp is a decent comp for Collins. People like Kemp, but he's not a hobby icon. That might be different if he and the Glove had won a title, but Kemp's win share neighbors aren't exactly amazing.

https://www.basketball-reference.com...ws_career.html

I’m pretty sure Shawn kemp has a pretty large following, almost like Jason Williams. I won’t be surprised if his stuff sells for more than Gary Payton, Karl Malone, Ewing, grant hill, or Stockton.

jushankel · 01-02-2021, 05:01 PM

Some of my favorite JC I own. Another blue in route and have a contenders gold auto vertical at psa right now. Dude can ball and excited to watch this team.

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2010GBPackers · 01-02-2021, 05:22 PM

Jesus, Siberian13 is still suspended?!

As to the thread, man, the Hawks look good so far this year. The addition of Capela will really help them down the stretch.

daeve · 01-02-2021, 05:28 PM

^Very nice!

I should've grabbed an Optic auto before this year started, ah well.

Here's today's JC - purchased probably several months post-release for about $50 and sub'd through pc/Josh in early '19:

vincecarder · 01-02-2021, 05:37 PM

I been buying Huerter cards for a while, PC his stuff. John Collins I grabbed a bunch of his stuff cheap as well because the Hawks were really undervalued.

The team is stacked with Reddish, Hunter, Okongu etc. Going to finally make the playoffs and should see an increase in all the young players RC's.

Huerter's best ability is passing and killer shot. He doesn't get hobby love but will soon enough because he is a fun player to watch and the Hawks are probably the most entertaining team in the NBA right now.

Huerter can jam too

jushankel · 01-02-2021, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by daeve

^Very nice!

I should've grabbed an Optic auto before this year started, ah well.

Here's today's JC - purchased probably several months post-release for about $50 and sub'd through pc/Josh in early '19:

Love the black velocity! I was able to pick up the raw blue just yesterday /49. Felt like I got a steal at $75. I think it was only listed for a few minutes I hit the buy it now so quick. Lol

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gmoney000 · 01-02-2021, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vincecarder

I been buying Huerter cards for a while, PC his stuff. John Collins I grabbed a bunch of his stuff cheap as well because the Hawks were really undervalued.

The team is stacked with Reddish, Hunter, Okongu etc. Going to finally make the playoffs and should see an increase in all the young players RC's.

Huerter's best ability is passing and killer shot. He doesn't get hobby love but will soon enough because he is a fun player to watch and the Hawks are probably the most entertaining team in the NBA right now.

Huerter can jam too

Klay Thompson

daeve · 01-02-2021, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vincecarder

I been buying Huerter cards for a while, PC his stuff. John Collins I grabbed a bunch of his stuff cheap as well because the Hawks were really undervalued.

The team is stacked with Reddish, Hunter, Okongu etc. Going to finally make the playoffs and should see an increase in all the young players RC's.

Huerter's best ability is passing and killer shot. He doesn't get hobby love but will soon enough because he is a fun player to watch and the Hawks are probably the most entertaining team in the NBA right now.

Love Huerter's game too, I have a few nice PC items of his that I'll share following a nice game.

I think his passing/playmaking is probably the most underrated part of his game. And watching he and Bogi run the 2nd unit has been fun so far.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jushankel

Love the black velocity! I was able to pick up the raw blue just yesterday /49. Felt like I got a steal at $75. I think it was only listed for a few minutes I hit the buy it now so quick. Lol

Thanks! I'm big on the black Velos too, and that is definitely a steal you got on that. I'm not actively purchasing more JC but I would've snapped that up instantly if I'd come across it.

09-09-2019, 10:20 AM	#28
yiguiri2002 Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 12,648 afigueroaquevedo2002 yiguiri2002	I don't get why people use Griffin as a bad example for Collins. Look at Griffin's prices - not peak prices but current ones. Past his prime, playing in Detroit...his RPAs are about as expensive as Collins (around 900). If Collins does become a player as good as Griffin in his prime in a team with as much hype as Blake's Clippers, his prices will increase. Does he have a chance to be as good as Blake? Yep. Will his prices increase if he does? Most likely. Should he be as expensive as Blake is right now? No, but that's the hobby nowadays. __________________ Basketball Sets: Threads Century Greats Jerseys - Innovation Stat Line Jerseys Soccer Sets: 2018 World Cup Prizm Peru Parallels - 2015 Select Soccer Peru Parallels Players: Red Bulls Parallels, 17-18 Thibs Prizms, Soccer Legends Autos

01-01-2021, 11:17 PM	#33
Mahomie Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 4,467	^^^those are beautiful __________________ PC: Taylor Heise, Kia Nurse, Trinity Rodman, Grogu, Electric Bill

01-02-2021, 05:37 PM	#39
vincecarder Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Toronto Posts: 400 evalueway	I been buying Huerter cards for a while, PC his stuff. John Collins I grabbed a bunch of his stuff cheap as well because the Hawks were really undervalued. The team is stacked with Reddish, Hunter, Okongu etc. Going to finally make the playoffs and should see an increase in all the young players RC's. Huerter's best ability is passing and killer shot. He doesn't get hobby love but will soon enough because he is a fun player to watch and the Hawks are probably the most entertaining team in the NBA right now. Huerter can jam too __________________ IG: eValueWay PC: Kevin Huerter, Vince Carter, Patrick Roy

09-09-2019, 04:06 AM	#27
tylerperro Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 79	If I had money to burn I'd buy every cheap Huerter card I saw. Not the case though

09-09-2019, 10:34 AM	#29
grizjunkie23 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Montana Posts: 718 grizjunkie23 grizjunkie23	I’m a fan of Huerter. He gets overlooked because of how strong the 2018 class was, but is young and efficient. As his usage rate increases, so should his numbers. He may never be a hobby darling, but for how cheap he is right now, it feels like a no-brainer.

01-01-2021, 10:11 PM	#30
daeve Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: savannah GA Posts: 13,179 accrules	Went back 5 pages and this was as close as it gets to an official Collins thread... For shame, would've guessed the cesspool would've provided several official hype threads by now. In honor of his polar baptism of Mr Allen tonight, dug out my blue ice from the pc box to get this thread breathing again

01-01-2021, 11:06 PM	#32
Spacemanspif Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 5,874 Spacemanspif	My top 3: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

01-01-2021, 11:40 PM	#34
daeve Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: savannah GA Posts: 13,179 accrules	Yeah nice stuff, I've got a Galactic as well, love the 17-18s!

01-02-2021, 05:01 PM	#36
jushankel Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 123 jushankel	Some of my favorite JC I own. Another blue in route and have a contenders gold auto vertical at psa right now. Dude can ball and excited to watch this team. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

01-02-2021, 05:22 PM	#37
2010GBPackers Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 4,436	Jesus, Siberian13 is still suspended?! As to the thread, man, the Hawks look good so far this year. The addition of Capela will really help them down the stretch.

01-02-2021, 05:28 PM	#38
daeve Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: savannah GA Posts: 13,179 accrules	^Very nice! I should've grabbed an Optic auto before this year started, ah well. Here's today's JC - purchased probably several months post-release for about $50 and sub'd through pc/Josh in early '19: