Patrick Mahomes Prices - Page 808

SleeperCards · 02-04-2021, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartyon

Can’t find the original post, but for what it’s worth PSA is full of #@#@#@#@ in their response about it being Panini’s fault for how they did Prizm that year. This isn’t limited to just 2017 Prizm, have received dozens of cards from various sports, years and various sets that have this stickiness to the holder. Not sure how they fix it other than sleeving them like they do with thicker cards, but I doubt that happens. Gotta love them passing the buck onto Panini though.

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It's never bothered me personally, as I never really look at the cards. I understand it bothering collectors though. Has anyone had one sleeved and if so did it solve the problem?

hoos · 02-04-2021, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy1380

Agree about the on card rookie autos. This is my only Mahomes auto, and one that I can't imagine I'll ever sell.

Absolutely beautiful! I know I’ll regret it but I’m letting my pop 3 PSA 10 go...

Tommy1380 · 02-04-2021, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kcroyalsfan8515

You selling this?.... Sorry

Not selling, sorry. I know if I did I’d probably regret it right away. Lol

Tommy1380 · 02-04-2021, 10:36 PM

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Nice card!

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Originally Posted by pcptrade

Simple and Elegant! I like the serial # 66/99. I picked up the Gold/25 recently.

Thanks guys! I love the look and how simple it is. The /25 Gold is a great looking card.

burke23 · 02-04-2021, 10:42 PM

My pickups this week. Huuuuge thanks to member deansayso on the Flawless. Drove four hours to my town to do the deal! Easy negotiation and nice dude in person. Holding that for a while for sure. The silver I bought for shiggles.

Tommy1380 · 02-04-2021, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hoos

Absolutely beautiful! I know I’ll regret it but I’m letting my pop 3 PSA 10 go...

What I wouldn’t give to have it in a PSA 10. Bought it raw back in fall of 2018 because I didn’t want to pay the extra $200 for the PSA 10. Wish I had that decision back!

Good luck with the sale, can’t wait to see what it goes for.

Bo knows · 02-04-2021, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by burke23

My pickups this week. Huuuuge thanks to member deansayso on the Flawless. Drove four hours to my town to do the deal! Easy negotiation and nice dude in person. Holding that for a while for sure. The silver I bought for shiggles.

Beautiful cards!

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Spartyon · 02-04-2021, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kcroyalsfan8515

Man... Red Contenders optic ROY psa 9 at 1360....WATTBA!!

Paid for, $1500+

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hoos · 02-04-2021, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy1380

What I wouldn’t give to have it in a PSA 10. Bought it raw back in fall of 2018 because I didn’t want to pay the extra $200 for the PSA 10. Wish I had that decision back!

Good luck with the sale, can’t wait to see what it goes for.

Thank you! Hit in a break in 2018 and I graded it in 2020.

pcptrade · 02-04-2021, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by burke23

My pickups this week. Huuuuge thanks to member deansayso on the Flawless. Drove four hours to my town to do the deal! Easy negotiation and nice dude in person. Holding that for a while for sure. The silver I bought for shiggles.

Awesome pickups! Congrats

pejc300 · 02-04-2021, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo knows

Beautiful cards!

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As the kids like to say, nasty.

WillBBC · 02-04-2021, 11:02 PM

Hot dang, those are killer!

TomTerrific · 02-04-2021, 11:06 PM

To me the 2017 immaculate is hugely undervalued. On card auto RPA, and its from a high end expensive product. Immaculate is huge in basketball and a lot of those type of trends tend to cross from sport to sport. Whats an NT rpa /99, $170,000 ? Immaculate RPA /99- $8,000 ? Thats over 20-1 difference, no way it should be that big. But hey thats just my 2 cents.

SleeperCards · 02-04-2021, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TomTerrific

To me the 2017 immaculate is hugely undervalued. On card auto RPA, and its from a high end expensive product. Immaculate is huge in basketball and a lot of those type of trends tend to cross from sport to sport. Whats an NT rpa /99, $170,000 ? Immaculate RPA /99- $8,000 ? Thats over 20-1 difference, no way it should be that big. But hey thats just my 2 cents.

Why is Immaculate huge in basketball? Do they use game used patches or is more care put into the design of the set leading to better condition? I know Flawless (at least I think I know) basketball uses GU patches, so I can see the appeal there, is it the same for Immaculate?

TomTerrific · 02-04-2021, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SleeperCards

Why is Immaculate huge in basketball? Do they use game used patches or is more care put into the design of the set leading to better condition? I know Flawless (at least I think I know) basketball uses GU patches, so I can see the appeal there, is it the same for Immaculate?

thats a good question, I know people really like the acetate in immaculate in basketball, maybe it was game used in the beginning as well. Immaculate has some huge prices in basketball, I am not saying I would rather have the mahomes immaculate than the NT, but 20-1 ??? I would think more like 5-1 would be closer, but I guess everyone disagrees with me.

SleeperCards · 02-04-2021, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TomTerrific

thats a good question, I know people really like the acetate in immaculate in basketball, maybe it was game used in the beginning as well. Immaculate has some huge prices in basketball, I am not saying I would rather have the mahomes immaculate than the NT, but 20-1 ??? I would think more like 5-1 would be closer, but I guess everyone disagrees with me.

If you think it could get to 5-1 then that should be an opportunity for you. I disagree, but I also can't believe the prices Flawless RPAs (that aren't even part of the set) are getting. They weren't always so high, so maybe something like Immaculate eventually gets up there as well. Again, I personally would bet against it, but there are so many people collecting now, you only need to get a few people with a lot of money to agree with your take and BOOM, new price increase. I feel like the Flawless push had to be people from basketball going "Hey this came out of a $1000 box and is Flawless, it should be worth more!" Maybe the same things happens with Immaculate. I'm not a fan of either product as they haven't really been popular in football, but again, things can change. I think certain things will always have value in football, even if the basketball people disappear one day, so I tend to gravitate more toward that stuff personally. If you really like Immaculate and think it has a chance to blow up, I'd encourage you to go for it.

TomTerrific · 02-04-2021, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SleeperCards

If you think it could get to 5-1 then that should be an opportunity for you. I disagree, but I also can't believe the prices Flawless RPAs (that aren't even part of the set) are getting. They weren't always so high, so maybe something like Immaculate eventually gets up there as well. Again, I personally would bet against it, but there are so many people collecting now, you only need to get a few people with a lot of money to agree with your take and BOOM, new price increase. I feel like the Flawless push had to be people from basketball going "Hey this came out of a $1000 box and is Flawless, it should be worth more!" Maybe the same things happens with Immaculate. I'm not a fan of either product as they haven't really been popular in football, but again, things can change. I think certain things will always have value in football, even if the basketball people disappear one day, so I tend to gravitate more toward that stuff personally. If you really like Immaculate and think it has a chance to blow up, I'd encourage you to go for it.

I agree with pretty much everything you said, pretty much people gravitated to flawless bc of basketball I think. I somewhat see the same thing happening to immaculate, but you are right it might not ever happen, or a few big money guys like it and it drags the price up like you said. I could be wrong but I think what ends up happening is people cant afford NT and they will very quickly look to immaculate, assuming mahomes wins the superbowl on sunday. But maybe you are right and it never catches on big.

Spartyon · 02-04-2021, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TomTerrific

I agree with pretty much everything you said, pretty much people gravitated to flawless bc of basketball I think. I somewhat see the same thing happening to immaculate, but you are right it might not ever happen, or a few big money guys like it and it drags the price up like you said. I could be wrong but I think what ends up happening is people cant afford NT and they will very quickly look to immaculate, assuming mahomes wins the superbowl on sunday. But maybe you are right and it never catches on big.

Biggest reason I don’t own an immaculate myself is the condition is absolutely brutal. If I’m not mistaken, 2017 is not acetate but paper/cardboard which led to the issues. I love the newer acetate immac.

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SleeperCards · 02-04-2021, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TomTerrific

I agree with pretty much everything you said, pretty much people gravitated to flawless bc of basketball I think. I somewhat see the same thing happening to immaculate, but you are right it might not ever happen, or a few big money guys like it and it drags the price up like you said. I could be wrong but I think what ends up happening is people cant afford NT and they will very quickly look to immaculate, assuming mahomes wins the superbowl on sunday. But maybe you are right and it never catches on big.

I never thought Flawless would have some of the crazy sales that it's had, so I've definitely been wrong, I'll be happy to be wrong again if it means more valuable Patty for everyone. Flawless does grade better than Immaculate though, Immaculate is pretty rough for the most part. You could have had the Immaculate Swoosh Patty for under $20k (I think it went around $15?) in August as it was probably in PSA 6-7 shape. The NFL Shield Immaculate RPA is a PSA 8.

TomTerrific · 02-04-2021, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartyon

Biggest reason I don’t own an immaculate myself is the condition is absolutely brutal. If I’m not mistaken, 2017 is not acetate but paper/cardboard which led to the issues. I love the newer acetate immac.

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yeah the condition is tough, I need to try to find a 9/10. Even that would be a miracle, but it would probably be pretty sought after

KCFAN2004 · 02-04-2021, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dthimesch

Update here, Card was re-slabbed with no issues.

Moving forward, hopefully it doesn't happen again lol.

TY

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TomTerrific · 02-04-2021, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SleeperCards

I never thought Flawless would have some of the crazy sales that it's had, so I've definitely been wrong, I'll be happy to be wrong again if it means more valuable Patty for everyone. Flawless does grade better than Immaculate though, Immaculate is pretty rough for the most part. You could have had the Immaculate Swoosh Patty for under $20k (I think it went around $15?) in August as it was probably in PSA 6-7 shape. The NFL Shield Immaculate RPA is a PSA 8.

yep, 8 is about the best you can hope for

dbpsooner · 02-04-2021, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SleeperCards

If you think it could get to 5-1 then that should be an opportunity for you. I disagree, but I also can't believe the prices Flawless RPAs (that aren't even part of the set) are getting. They weren't always so high, so maybe something like Immaculate eventually gets up there as well. Again, I personally would bet against it, but there are so many people collecting now, you only need to get a few people with a lot of money to agree with your take and BOOM, new price increase. I feel like the Flawless push had to be people from basketball going "Hey this came out of a $1000 box and is Flawless, it should be worth more!" Maybe the same things happens with Immaculate. I'm not a fan of either product as they haven't really been popular in football, but again, things can change. I think certain things will always have value in football, even if the basketball people disappear one day, so I tend to gravitate more toward that stuff personally. If you really like Immaculate and think it has a chance to blow up, I'd encourage you to go for it.

What is this “set” you speak of. Find me a better looking rpa than the flawless...

flinchfree · 02-05-2021, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by burke23

My pickups this week. Huuuuge thanks to member deansayso on the Flawless. Drove four hours to my town to do the deal! Easy negotiation and nice dude in person. Holding that for a while for sure. The silver I bought for shiggles.

Bangin cards.
If you were carrying cash on the drive over that must have been a nervy ride.

flinchfree · 02-05-2021, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tommy1380

Agree about the on card rookie autos. This is my only Mahomes auto, and one that I can't imagine I'll ever sell.

I think this card is his all round most beautiful design.
It's just.....I don't know........perfect.

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TomTerrific Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 26	To me the 2017 immaculate is hugely undervalued. On card auto RPA, and its from a high end expensive product. Immaculate is huge in basketball and a lot of those type of trends tend to cross from sport to sport. Whats an NT rpa /99, $170,000 ? Immaculate RPA /99- $8,000 ? Thats over 20-1 difference, no way it should be that big. But hey thats just my 2 cents.