The Erling Haaland Thread

[dream34]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

I was under the impression that all Topps Chrome sets including Sapphire were severely delayed in 2020 due to Covid. Not sure exactly what step in the production cycle but it definitely effected it. I do believe the Topps Now card will have a niche following for super collectors but the go to card will be the Topps Chrome Sapphire card. There is brand legacy, it was widely released and it's Sapphire. You can thank MLB's Acuna and Tatis Jr. for that. I understand certain collectors will hold the Topps Now card in high regard but there isn't one player in any sport that a "Now" card is #1. Haaland wont change that. Another significant reason it wont is that the print run actually goes against it. There just aren't enough to change hands consistently.

Exactly. I don't see many clamoring and dishing out huge money for Mbappe's World Cup Panini Instant cards despite their miniscule print runs. Supercollectors will always want and cherish them but the masses and dollars will normally flow to a mainstream release, and when it's a available a Chrome release.

[Raj3sh]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

I was under the impression that all Topps Chrome sets including Sapphire were severely delayed in 2020 due to Covid. Not sure exactly what step in the production cycle but it definitely effected it. I do believe the Topps Now card will have a niche following for super collectors but the go to card will be the Topps Chrome Sapphire card. There is brand legacy, it was widely released and it's Sapphire. You can thank MLB's Acuna and Tatis Jr. for that. I understand certain collectors will hold the Topps Now card in high regard but there isn't one player in any sport that a "Now" card is #1. Haaland wont change that. Another significant reason it wont is that the print run actually goes against it. There just aren't enough to change hands consistently.

A second season card can never be a rookie. Saphire is released at the end of dec 2020. There are a ton of other sets prior to it.

[Raj3sh]

Originally Posted by dream34

Exactly. I don't see many clamoring and dishing out huge money for Mbappe's World Cup Panini Instant cards despite their miniscule print runs. Supercollectors will always want and cherish them but the masses and dollars will normally flow to a mainstream release, and when it's a available a Chrome release.

Because mbappes topps now is from 2018, his second/third season too. If he had a topps now from 2016, it would have been a different story.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by dream34

Exactly. I don't see many clamoring and dishing out huge money for Mbappe's World Cup Panini Instant cards despite their miniscule print runs. Supercollectors will always want and cherish them but the masses and dollars will normally flow to a mainstream release, and when it's a available a Chrome release.

Especially with the popularity of websites like StockX and StarStock. Again, the Topps Now card is an incredible card and a must own for super collectors but the Sapphire is #1.

[Dizz86]

real release day should matter. What if Panini now releases PRIZM La Liga 2004 as a delayed product. (might be some licencing issue, as usually licences have expiration..) but still possible.

That Topps Now (wonder kid) /178 card has a advantage, that Fati has same one (higher print volume) from the same day.
Fati and Haland might be top5 players for the next decade and if somebody will have one of those cards, he might have also to own another one, similarly looking card from the same set. In my eyes both true-rookies.

[Archangel1775]

Another consideration is that Topps started describing their Chrome releases back in 2017 using the two year system, so
2017/18


2018/19


2019/20


Panini did as well. So it wasn't just regulated to Sapphire. There are many instances where production was delayed and the product was released later in the year or beginning of the new year.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by Dizz86

real release day should matter. What if Panini now releases PRIZM La Liga 2004 as a delayed product. (might be some licencing issue, as usually licences have expiration..) but still possible.

That Topps Now (wonder kid) /178 card has a advantage, that Fati has same one (higher print volume) from the same day.
Fati and Haland might be top5 players for the next decade and if somebody will have one of those cards, he might have also to own another one, similarly looking card from the same set. In my eyes both true-rookies.

That the great thing about the hobby, collect what you like. Did you know that baseball players have minor league card issues years prior to their Topps Rookie card? In basketball, from 1983-1985,Star released cards via bagged team sets that lag way behind their 1986 Fleer counterparts? People still collect both but the masses agreed that 1986 Fleer were the true rookie cards and showed with their wallets. The Star cards were given the designation of XRC by the very influential Beckett

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

That the great thing about the hobby, collect what you like. Did you know that baseball players have minor league card issues years prior to their Topps Rookie card? In basketball, from 1983-1985,Star released cards via bagged team sets that lag way behind their 1986 Fleer counterparts? People still collect both but the masses agreed that 1986 Fleer were the true rookie cards and showed with their wallets. The Star cards were given the designation of XRC by the very influential Beckett

Is Beckett going to give “The Wonder Kid” an XRC designation or an RC designation.

[Elemin8]

I think that soccer is so new that it will be interesting to see where the market takes it cause it doesn’t seem to conform to the other sports. For instance maybe the Topps Now becomes the de facto RC for Haaland but does it set a precedent going forward? In baseball for instance does a Topps now card of a draft pick being selected become more desirable than his bowman draft card because it comes one year ahead of that release? Or does the Topps now become a first card and the one with the RC logo become his first RC like baseball? Also a side question did Euroset Haaland come out before Topps Now and if so is that considered his first card? I wish it was so simplistic as 1st card (online/pack pulled) 1st sticker 1st RC 1st Pack Pulled but it’s not in soccer so maybe Haaland will help straighten this out as he seems to be the one potential star that falls into all this categories

[brewtown107]

I don't own any Haaland cards at all, so no dog in this fight. But it seems to me that if he becomes the big thing, his RC situation could mirror Lebron's to some degree. The Topps Chrome/Sapphire being the top RC "for the masses" and the very limited Topps Now being somewhat equivalent to the Exquisite RPA "for the few".

In this case, both are winners... no need to argue! Collect what you like!

[YayNJ]

Greed dictates that his "sapphire" will be his goto RC, nothing else.

In reality, it's nowhere near his RC, his Topps Crystal precedes it by over a year (?) and he's in his Salzburg kit.

I don't really count NOW releases.

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by YayNJ

Greed dictates that his "sapphire" will be his goto RC, nothing else.

In reality, it's nowhere near his RC, his Topps Crystal precedes it by over a year (?) and he's in his Salzburg kit.

I don't really count NOW releases.

Just a very few short years ago, this hobby was absolutely plum full of people saying they don’t count online exclusive releases as being popular or even cared about. “Sapphire will never be collectible because it’s not available or offered to the masses”.

Well, pretty much one player absolutely demolished that way of thinking. Absolutely, unequivocally demolished it.

I won’t be caught sitting out on the sidelines, (or worse yet...in the stands), when high quality NOW cards earn their rightful place in this hobby.

All one has to do is quickly take a peak at its growing popularity. What’s going to happen is right there in front of us for all to see. People can deny it all they want, but they’re not going to stop NOW from growing in popularity like they were never going to stop Sapphire, et al...though try as they may.

[Ianhatcher]

I'm not a fan of any of the Topps Now cards or anything where you buy the card directly from Topps site no matter how low the print run. It's just not what cards are about imo as you buy packs and open them in hopes of getting a card you want but if people collect them and want to shell out big money more power to you. It's just not for me at all and I'd equate it to some promo card.

I'm so tired of people on this forum "telling" others how it is regarding how a RC designation should be especially when they call a sticker a card....That always makes me laugh. Panini was still printing Basketball for 19/20 up until late last year with NBA Hoops Premium Stock releasing in December so are all those Zion and Ja cards not rookies now? Ridiculous that the release date should matter in any way.

For me the Salzburg is highly collectible due to the only main stream card in that kit and it is a tough grade. The Dortmund extended SP from that set is really slept on as well as it is a tough pull at I think it was 2 of those cards per case so 1 in 7 cases with 14 cards in the extended set. Bundesliga for it's very short print run as a set is also a highly collectible card. Regular Chrome is a great mid-tier priced main release and of course the Sapphire which I think is THE go to RC for Haaland. I have a lot of all of them so really doesn't matter to me what the value is, I like them all but my favorite is the Sapphire.

So really there is something for everyone with Haaland if you want to collect him but you are going to have people try and push their agenda on what should have value though.

People just need to get over trying to tell the Americans how we view RCs. This is how we collect and it's not changing.

[IndySportsCards]

Originally Posted by bobbycass

Nah, man take a look at that. That Haaland is the lighter print. The darker print is black. That sticker in the video is grey. The second print came out a lot darker than that. I opened a few of the first boxes and took out 3 Haaland. I then ordered directly from Panini later on and got the darker print.

Okay then I'm confused what you are talking about. Do you have photo examples of what you consider 1st print vs 2nd print?

Salzburg kit cards/stickers will always be considered his Rookie IMHO.

Sapphire will be popular I'm sure, but not considered a true rookie.

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by Ianhatcher

I'm not a fan of any of the Topps Now cards or anything where you buy the card directly from Topps site no matter how low the print run. It's just not what cards are about imo as you buy packs and open them in hopes of getting a card you want but if people collect them and want to shell out big money more power to you. It's just not for me at all and I'd equate it to some promo card.

I'm so tired of people on this forum "telling" others how it is regarding how a RC designation should be especially when they call a sticker a card....That always makes me laugh. Panini was still printing Basketball for 19/20 up until late last year with NBA Hoops Premium Stock releasing in December so are all those Zion and Ja cards not rookies now? Ridiculous that the release date should matter in any way.

For me the Salzburg is highly collectible due to the only main stream card in that kit and it is a tough grade. The Dortmund extended SP from that set is really slept on as well as it is a tough pull at I think it was 2 of those cards per case so 1 in 7 cases with 14 cards in the extended set. Bundesliga for it's very short print run as a set is also a highly collectible card. Regular Chrome is a great mid-tier priced main release and of course the Sapphire which I think is THE go to RC for Haaland. I have a lot of all of them so really doesn't matter to me what the value is, I like them all but my favorite is the Sapphire.

So really there is something for everyone with Haaland if you want to collect him but you are going to have people try and push their agenda on what should have value though.

People just need to get over trying to tell the Americans how we view RCs. This is how we collect and it's not changing.

The same thing was said about Sapphire..."It's just another cracked ice card". Remember that? Now, even you, reference Sapphire, (an online exclusive not available to the masses), as being their favorite. And I don't disagree with you. It's a fantastic product, and Haaland's cards in it are very popular.

I too own a decent amount of Sapphire. It might sound like I'm biased, but I have what I would say are almost identically equal amounts of Haaland Sapphire and NOW #178 cards.

[IndySportsCards]

Best $30 I've spent in a while, well picked it up Raw on 1/16/2020

[mwheeler27]

People need to not mistake the significance of the NOW 178 Haaland RC:

(September 17th, 2019...Available for EVERYONE in the world to buy on September 18th, 2019. Topps would have sold an unlimited amount of these if people were paying attention)



Just look at what that moment captures:

From the bold "Red Bull" on his chest, (would be a cool nickname), teammates celebrating in the background, opponent distraught, Haaland's arms out wide letting the world know, "I've arrived!!!".

Can someone show me a more significant card than this and tell me why?

[IndySportsCards]

Originally Posted by mwheeler27

Can someone show me a more significant card than this and tell me why?

Nope, it's just unattainable for most, but it doesn't diminish it's place. As Haaland continues to be an absolute monster, it's value will continue to skyrocket, especially graded versions.

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by IndySportsCards

Best $30 I've spent in a while, well picked it up Raw on 1/16/2020

No kidding!!!

Here's one of the best $80 purchases I've made:

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by IndySportsCards

Nope, it's just unattainable for most, but it doesn't diminish it's place. As Haaland continues to be an absolute monster, it's value will continue to skyrocket, especially graded versions.

Ungraded versions will skyrocket too.

[Ianhatcher]

Originally Posted by mwheeler27

The same thing was said about Sapphire..."It's just another cracked ice card". Remember that? Now, even you, reference Sapphire, (an online exclusive not available to the masses), as being their favorite. And I don't disagree with you. It's a fantastic product, and Haaland's cards in it are very popular.

I too own a decent amount of Sapphire. It might sound like I'm biased, but I have what I would say are almost identically equal amounts of Haaland Sapphire and NOW #178 cards.

There is a difference between buying the exact exclusive printed card online and buying a exclusive boxed product where you have a chance to get certain cards.

If people put value on it fine but I don't. It spits in the face of everything that is fun about sport cards which is ripping packs for cards. Either you or someone else pulled the card form a pack is what I care about not I was the first to add this card to my cart. I don't care about digital cards either but that doesn't mean they don't have value to some people.

These are printed cards of moments that you can buy at the click of a button. Not a fan of it and they are just promo cards for me but you do you.

[IndySportsCards]

Originally Posted by mwheeler27

Ungraded versions will skyrocket too.

True. If he's truly the face of Soccer along with Mbappe, as Ronaldo and Messi quit playing, this card will become like the 2004 Megacrack Messi rookie

[YayNJ]

I mean, it doesn't get much more simpler than this :

If he's wearing a Dortmund kit, it isn't a rookie.

[IndySportsCards]

Originally Posted by Ianhatcher

There is a difference between buying the exact exclusive printed card online and buying a exclusive boxed product where you have a chance to get certain cards.

If people put value on it fine but I don't. It spits in the face of everything that is fun about sport cards which is ripping packs for cards. Either you or someone else pulled the card form a pack is what I care about not I was the first to add this card to my cart. I don't care about digital cards either but that doesn't mean they don't have value to some people.

These are printed cards of moments that you can buy at the click of a button. Not a fan of it and they are just promo cards for me but you do you.

Soccer is a different beast than typical US based sports like Baseball, Football. Many times it's stickers that are deemed valuable rookies that are only available in Spain, or Italy, or in Magazines, etc.. US collectors may hover closer to cards, but internationally many still collect stickers and view them as true rookies. Cards are expanding into Europe though and may start to drive European collectors towards them, and the Topps Now program often offers MANY cards to that market via their website we can't even get here on Topps.com - It just adds to the confusion and makes collecting soccer more difficult for us all.

But as other have stated, collect what you like, like what you collect.

[IndySportsCards]

Originally Posted by mwheeler27

No kidding!!!

Here's one of the best $80 purchases I've made:

Now that is a MOAB! Nice job