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Old 02-27-2021, 05:27 PM   #6051
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Not disagreeing with your perspective here, I'm mostly thinking about how you'd characterize new vs. different. Seems like Dapper wants both: a stable bot-free platform for their customers, and a robust marketplace to offer sellers and traders an opportunity to swap moments. ePack seems to be a fair comparison as it offers both, as well as a chat and physical ship component.

But ePack (plus other solutions) carries its share of problems alongside its benefits. Demand dictates sales potential, and is correlated to availability. Perhaps there's a future where they can coexist without the downtime. There's always likely to be the potential for volatility and exploitation. I hope the TOS updates stay vigilant and fair to the collectors and not just the clectrs.
You're forgetting the blockchain and the peak load in this. Compare it to running your cars engine in a low gear, in low revs everything is fine, med revs for a long time can get problematic and high revs will break something at some point. The queue system allows them to stay in med revs and find ways to shift up so they stay at that load and figure out how they can move the queue faster.

The combinations of payments/blockchain complicate things as well and their blockchain is fairly new and still under development.
There was a fairly long 'scheduled maintenance' recently, which was an update in code on their blockchain. Which broke something on TopShot. That's the problem here, you fix one thing which might break things elsewhere which you're only going to find out until it happens.
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Old 02-27-2021, 05:29 PM   #6052
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Sales starting to go through again.
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Old 02-27-2021, 05:38 PM   #6053
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Trying to get my first pack. Do you have to load up your Dapper account before (if) I get to the front of the line?
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Old 02-27-2021, 05:39 PM   #6054
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Trying to get my first pack. Do you have to load up your Dapper account before (if) I get to the front of the line?
No, you can pay with CC
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Old 02-27-2021, 05:40 PM   #6055
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You're forgetting the blockchain and the peak load in this. Compare it to running your cars engine in a low gear, in low revs everything is fine, med revs for a long time can get problematic and high revs will break something at some point. The queue system allows them to stay in med revs and find ways to shift up so they stay at that load and figure out how they can move the queue faster.

The combinations of payments/blockchain complicate things as well and their blockchain is fairly new and still under development.
There was a fairly long 'scheduled maintenance' recently, which was an update in code on their blockchain. Which broke something on TopShot. That's the problem here, you fix one thing which might break things elsewhere which you're only going to find out until it happens.
Thanks for the thorough explanation. It definitely helps distinguish this and likely inhibits some of the dismissiveness this thread has encountered in the past. Kudos!
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Old 02-27-2021, 05:41 PM   #6056
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Well, its a lot more peaceful in here now that almost everyone gets a pack. I'm not an Anthony Edwards fan but I want that Moment if it is indeed that dunk.
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Old 02-27-2021, 05:42 PM   #6057
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And I completed my purchase.
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Old 02-27-2021, 05:44 PM   #6058
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And I completed my purchase.

Same here! Hope everyone able to get packs!


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Old 02-27-2021, 05:46 PM   #6059
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seems to be going down by 10,000 every couple of minutes now
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Old 02-27-2021, 05:50 PM   #6060
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I think I'll catalog my "people in front" of me count every 10 minutes until I get a pack, presuming I can hang out that long. Seems to be moving much faster, and should be able to get a good average for those waiting longer in line.
12:00 CT: Line started at 86,000 or so.
2:00 CT: 63,400
2:10 CT: 58,700 (difference of 4700)
2:20 CT: 56,200 (2500)
2:30 CT: 55,000 (1200, line paused)
2:40 CT: 55,000 (still paused, probably 20 more minutes according to their comment)
2:50 CT: 55,000
3:00 CT: 55,000
3:10 CT: 55,000 - approx 45 minutes without a sale.
3:20 CT: 54,300 (700 sold after reopening)
3:30 CT: 43,700 (10,600 - now it's flying)
3:40 CT: 25,900 (17,800 in ten minutes *OR* people have left the line and didn't get a pack and timed out.
3:50 CT: 10,600 (15,300, but seems stuck again)
4:00 CT: 10,600 - yep, waiting for Dapper to clear the purchase backlog.
4:10 CT: 10,600
4:20 CT: 10,600
4:30 CT: 9,000 (1600)
4:40 CT: Purchase went through.
In case this helps anyone else figure out how long they'll still be waiting in line. CT is 2 hours ahead of PT, FWIW.
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Old 02-27-2021, 05:54 PM   #6061
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Based on my balance, looks like mine went through. Although it's still on Processing Payment.
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Old 02-27-2021, 05:58 PM   #6062
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Should be interesting to see how the market acts when it's finally back up. There are going to be 1,000s of new people just waiting 2 weeks for their pack. I'm predicting the S2 sell off is going to continue even though I don't think that makes a lot of sense as they are about to become more rare.
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Old 02-27-2021, 06:01 PM   #6063
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Based on my balance, looks like mine went through. Although it's still on Processing Payment.
Same..still worried I didn't though lol
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Old 02-27-2021, 06:03 PM   #6064
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Same..still worried I didn't though lol
Mine took forever... lol

Finally went through and got the email confirmation

You'll be good
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Old 02-27-2021, 06:04 PM   #6065
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Mine took forever... lol

Finally went through and got the email confirmation

You'll be good
Yeah and if you check Packs..it shows up there..so I feel better lol
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Old 02-27-2021, 06:10 PM   #6066
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so who wants to double their money and would like to sell their pack?
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Old 02-27-2021, 06:12 PM   #6067
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So it's taken my money, but i'm stuck on the "processing payment" screen.

Did this happen to anyone else?

//edit - should have checked newest posts lol
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Old 02-27-2021, 06:14 PM   #6068
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Happens every 40 minutes or so, and once the backlog gets big enough, they halt the line and let the transactions catch up.
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Old 02-27-2021, 06:18 PM   #6069
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5hrs for my D Howard Denying Allegations LE /35k.

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Old 02-27-2021, 06:23 PM   #6070
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I think i'm going to have to buy some gold.

if making money is this easy and everybody becomes millionaires off these NFT's all over the place then yes:

1.Buy gold
2. Learn how to make my own next gen video game console
3. Learn how to make a hd tv for when my tv breaks down
4. Learn to hunt

not necessarily in that order.
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Old 02-27-2021, 06:31 PM   #6071
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So this 9$ pack what would it be worth once received
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Old 02-27-2021, 06:37 PM   #6072
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So this 9$ pack what would it be worth once received
$15.. 🔥
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Old 02-27-2021, 06:39 PM   #6073
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I think i'm going to have to buy some gold.

if making money is this easy and everybody becomes millionaires off these NFT's all over the place then yes:

1.Buy gold
2. Learn how to make my own next gen video game console
3. Learn how to make a hd tv for when my tv breaks down
4. Learn to hunt

not necessarily in that order.
Gold assumes society doesn't collapse. Might want to own the means of food production, access to fresh water, and those things that go bang bang.
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Old 02-27-2021, 06:43 PM   #6074
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Gold assumes society doesn't collapse. Might want to own the means of food production, access to fresh water, and those things that go bang bang.
VERY TRUE!
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Old 02-27-2021, 06:43 PM   #6075
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F%&^*(, my damn browser closed on my phone and when I went to reopen it, a captcha and black NBA TS screen..awesome!
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