The Erling Haaland Thread

[dream34]

Originally Posted by Raj3sh

Saphire is never a rookie card, released in the end of 2020 where he is on his second season with dortmund. None of the second season cards are his rookies.

By chance do you know how long after their first professional games the 1952 Topps Mantle & 1986 Fleer Jordan were released?

Both were not their first professional cards released either, just their best and most desired.

[airharrison21]

Originally Posted by Cl1ffHuxtable

While you are technically correct, that RC symbol holds a lot of weight along with the Sapphire brand. The Sapphire “RC” of Haaland will be one of his biggest early cards without a doubt.


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100% accurate. Having “RC” on the card is HUGE. Plus the Sapphire name is massive in any sport. Those are a couple of the reasons why that card is on fire. Will always be one of his best rookies to own.

[dream34]

Sportscard history is littered with comparatively worthless "first issued cards". Otherwise the stack of Ichiro 2001 UD Victory I have wouldn't be worth 1/10 the price of his Topps Flagship.

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by Raj3sh

Saphire is never a rookie card, released in the end of 2020 where he is on his second season with dortmund. None of the second season cards are his rookies.

You must be new. RC Logo. Sapphire Brand. Huge Star in the making. It doesn't matter what you think is a rookie or not. The MARKET says it's a big boy rookie, for a big boy talent.

[reddragonthe]

Are we really doing this again?

Sapphire was a 2019-2020 UEFA Champions League release. Very simple. Very clear. Reasonable people even understand that the release was VERY delayed by all kinds of things related to the pandemic - so the timing is as much circumstance as it is some diabolical plan by Topps (as much as I didn't love the release personally). They even put Suarez in a Barca jersey.

It's a card from a product from his "rookie" UCL season. You can say you only like him in a Salzburg kit from that season (and buy Finest... which oddly was ALSO delayed from February until July, I think).

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by dream34

I'm just going to do a service also and say that Topps Now is NOT Sapphire. Not even close.

I have a lot of Now also and think there are certain special cards too but trying to angle them to Sapphire is crazy. Carry on.

I’ve never said NOW is equal to Sapphire. I’m saying some peoples’ vocal perspective of each “brand” at given times were similar.

Obviously Sapphire perspectives have changed, and so too are NOW perspectives. Price and print runs both prove this to be true.

I used to catch heck for tooting my horn about Sapphire and it’s future popularity. I’m now catching heck for touting NOW.

[Elemin8]

Well we will find out some clarity next month


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[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by Elemin8

Well we will find out some clarity next month


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[mfw13]

Originally Posted by YayNJ

Comparing Haaland to Haevertz, Werner and...... Pulisic

Well...12 months ago, everyone on this board was salivating over all four of those players....and three of them are struggling to get regular playing time at Chelsea.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by dsprague12

Re: your 2nd argument... A club is going to pay a likely all-time high transfer fee for him and then not going to give him playing time? Seems unlikely.

They'll give him playing time when he first signs...but he'll be under a lot more pressure than he is at Dortmund to continually produce. And if he slumps, there will be another highly regarded striker to take playing time from him.

He could become the next Lewandowski if things work out well, but he could also become the next Gareth Bale if things don't.

Lots of things can go wrong when you move from a smaller club to a superclub...

[Raj3sh]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

You must be new. RC Logo. Sapphire Brand. Huge Star in the making. It doesn't matter what you think is a rookie or not. The MARKET says it's a big boy rookie, for a big boy talent.

RC tag doesnt mean anything since topps and panini started giving them to veterans in their 10th or 20th season.

[Raj3sh]

Originally Posted by dream34

By chance do you know how long after their first professional games the 1952 Topps Mantle & 1986 Fleer Jordan were released?

Both were not their first professional cards released either, just their best and most desired.

One point i can get along with, i can see the same with lukas upper deck euro league card, this is because for basketball the american inluence is huge, its not the same for football/soccer. The rest of the world decides.

[orion9578]

Originally Posted by Raj3sh

RC tag doesnt mean anything since topps and panini started giving them to veterans in their 10th or 20th season.

The Market is saying it's a RC(they're paying RC money), Topps says it's a RC, PSA says it's a RC and BGS says it's a RC. You and a few other random guys might be the last hold outs .

Originally Posted by Raj3sh

One point i can get along with, i can see the same with lukas upper deck euro league card, this is because for basketball the american inluence is huge, its not the same for football/soccer. The rest of the world decides.

Seems the world has decided, join in...our "american inluence" won't bite. Not sure what "american inulence" is, but being an American I don't think we are "inulence".

[Raj3sh]

Originally Posted by orion9578

The Market is saying it's a RC(they're paying RC money), Topps says it's a RC, PSA says it's a RC and BGS says it's a RC. You and a few other random guys might be the last hold outs .



Seems the world has decided, join in...our "american inluence" won't bite. Not sure what "american inulence" is, but being an American I don't think we are "inulence".

Influence, you want to celebrate typos?

[orion9578]

Originally Posted by Raj3sh

Influence, you want to celebrate typos?

Sure, I want to celebrate typos.

American's like to celebrate and drive the prices up on everything.

Haaland's prices have nothing to do with Europe or Asia, right? Same with Luka's?

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by Raj3sh

RC tag doesnt mean anything since topps and panini started giving them to veterans in their 10th or 20th season.

Good luck w/ that. You can stand on the sideline with your hands in your pockets, but don't say you weren't warned.

[Raj3sh]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Good luck w/ that. You can stand on the sideline with your hands in your pockets, but don't say you weren't warned.

I have been seeing this for many years, this happened with ronaldo’s rookie cards, people were promoting the upper deck 2004 as his rookie as its more of an established brand during that time. In the end the 2003 panini megacraques came out on top.

The same thing happened with mbappe’s cards.

[Raj3sh]

Originally Posted by orion9578

Sure, I want to celebrate typos.

American's like to celebrate and drive the prices up on everything.

Haaland's prices have nothing to do with Europe or Asia, right? Same with Luka's?

Thats because in Basketball NBA is the king, MLS is not even a top 5 league in the world.

[dream34]

Originally Posted by Raj3sh

I have been seeing this for many years, this happened with ronaldo’s rookie cards, people were promoting the upper deck 2004 as his rookie as its more of an established brand during that time. In the end the 2003 panini megacraques came out on top.

The same thing happened with mbappe’s cards.

I'm not quite sure about this....

His 2016 has always been his most expensive, so it's not like it's come from behind to be on top. Doesn't mean it's the best card to buy though. From what I can see they were roughly $20-25 raw in mid 2019. His Chromes were somewhere around $2-3 each. Now his 2016 is about $500-700 (25-30x) while his Chromes are around $300-350 (100-150x). I know this because I bought quite a few of both and have done much better on the Chromes.

For every collector you'll have saying they don't want to buy a 1st traditional card issued in a player's 2nd year, you'll probably have three times the amount saying they don't want a sticker with another player.

[orion9578]

Originally Posted by Raj3sh

Thats because in Basketball NBA is the king, MLS is not even a top 5 league in the world.

Ok? What does any of that have to do with Haaland? I wasn't equating the NBA and MLS. You said Haaland and Luka's prices had to do with American influence. Not even sure what point youre trying to make...

A large portion of money spent on Luka comes from Europe and Asia. America as well, but "we" dont influence his prices as much as you think we do. Im willing to bet the same can and will be said about Haaland.

As far as his cards go, my opinion is Bundesliga will end up being the card to have. But I dont think a "non RC", like you're calling Sapphire, will be to far behind it.

[Raj3sh]

Originally Posted by dream34

I'm not quite sure about this....

His 2016 has always been his most expensive, so it's not like it's come from behind to be on top. Doesn't mean it's the best card to buy though. From what I can see they were roughly $20-25 raw in mid 2019. His Chromes were somewhere around $2-3 each. Now his 2016 is about $500-700 (25-30x) while his Chromes are around $300-350 (100-150x). I know this because I bought quite a few of both and have done much better on the Chromes.

For every collector you'll have saying they don't want to buy a 1st traditional card issued in a player's 2nd year, you'll probably have three times the amount saying they don't want a sticker with another player.

I posted a thread about a mbappe rookie poll long back, most of the posters here were saying the opposite, also for mbappe the prizm was pumped to the top when we were buying chromes and select for cheaper prices.

[Raj3sh]

Originally Posted by orion9578

Ok? What does any of that have to do with Haaland? I wasn't equating the NBA and MLS. You said Haaland and Luka's prices had to do with American influence. Not even sure what point youre trying to make...

A large portion of money spent on Luka comes from Europe and Asia. America as well, but "we" dont influence his prices as much as you think we do. Im willing to bet the same can and will be said about Haaland.

As far as his cards go, my opinion is Bundesliga will end up being the card to have. But I dont think a "non RC", like you're calling Sapphire, will be to far behind it.

Saphire is been pumped by baseball card collectors who had the chance to buy the boxes with their membership or whatever, just look at the saphire thread and let me know how many of them post in other soccer/ football threads.

[orion9578]

Originally Posted by Raj3sh

Saphire is been pumped by baseball card collectors who had the chance to buy the boxes with their membership or whatever, just look at the saphire thread and let me know how many of them post in other soccer/ football threads.

Fair enough. So any releases that are exclusive to Europe are pumped and coddled by European collectors? Or is pumping exclusive to us Americans?

Bury your head in the sand all you like, your hobby has changed and card collecting has changed.

I have one of the baseball collector only, pumped up by American Haaland's up for sale right now. Odd that I'm getting offers from outside the US, since we're the only one's interested in Sapphire.

[Raj3sh]

Originally Posted by orion9578

Fair enough. So any releases that are exclusive to Europe are pumped and coddled by European collectors? Or is pumping exclusive to us Americans?

Bury your head in the sand all you like, your hobby has changed and card collecting has changed.

I have one of the baseball collector only, pumped up by American Haaland's up for sale right now. Odd that I'm getting offers from outside the US, since we're the only one's interested in Sapphire.

There are no european card releases from panini and topps. Not even retail. The only ones available are stickers. This has to change and panini and topps should release cards across the globe.

[orion9578]

Originally Posted by Raj3sh

There are no european card releases from panini and topps. Not even retail. The only ones available are stickers. This has to change and panini and topps should release cards across the globe.

I am not a member of the club either my friend. You had as good a shot at them as I did. That goes with all Topps and Panini releases. They're all hard to get and all expensive. Them being hard to find/expensive isn't exclusive to Europe.

And you mean the stickers that Europeans pump as the best card of player "x"... They have history, I get that, but so do the cards you seem to think won't be worth anything because they're exclusive here in the US.