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Old 03-24-2021, 12:35 PM   #851
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Be that as it may, it reminded me that it’s time to start thinking about your ballots for Spring Training MVP! Who ya got? Anyone who’s looked up a baseball card’s price on eBay since ST started is eligible to vote. Whether you pumped, or dumped, it’s all good.
My fire emoji-pumped vote goes to Shohei !
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Old 03-24-2021, 12:47 PM   #852
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My fire emoji-pumped vote goes to Shohei !
tend to agree
Willi has been real good
TOM still around .400
Hello Newman/Up goes Frazier/Ke'Bryan
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Old 03-24-2021, 12:56 PM   #853
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No Vladdy?? The guy is hitting .519 currently

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Willi has been real good
TOM still around .400
Hello Newman/Up goes Frazier/Ke'Bryan
Both Bobbys
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Old 03-24-2021, 12:57 PM   #854
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Not a great stat line for camp but Teoscar seems to be evolving a bit into a more patient slugger. 7bb 9k. If this is a permanent type of ratio for him going forward it makes them that much more dangerous with some thunder around him. Jays offensive potential is pretty ridiculous right now.


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Old 03-24-2021, 12:58 PM   #855
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No Vladdy?? The guy is hitting .519 currently

Even down 40+lbs he’s still Biggie to me


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Old 03-24-2021, 01:06 PM   #856
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Not a great stat line for camp but Teoscar seems to be evolving a bit into a more patient slugger. 7bb 9k. If this is a permanent type of ratio for him going forward it makes them that much more dangerous with some thunder around him. Jays offensive potential is pretty ridiculous right now.


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Just hit another HR so far against the Yankees and walked as well in his second AB.
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Old 03-24-2021, 01:25 PM   #857
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Old 03-24-2021, 01:31 PM   #858
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For the bolded part...

In a 10 year span Andruw hit 372 HR's and won 10 straight GG's.

It's absolutely mind boggling that that alone isn't enough. Golden boy Mike Trout hasn't even accomplished that.
We think alike. This didn’t go over well when I said it a few months ago, but I think Andruw’ HoF chances would have been better if he would have retired at 32. Not saying he would be in yet, but he would have been viewed more favorably because people didn’t have the awful last seasons to drag down the great numbers.
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Old 03-24-2021, 02:43 PM   #859
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Old 03-24-2021, 03:01 PM   #860
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You lose credibility when you downplay a 10x Gold Glove winner with 430+ career HR and during the same post, you defend a rookie who is having issues by saying he is still young and has time.

Luis Robert may very well have a great career. I am not dogging him like some others are. But he is not Andruw Jones. Even with a successful career it will be a different kind of success. Again, he is not Andruw Jones.

He isn't comparable with his defense (few are) and he has a different kind of bat.

Dale Murphy has 2 MVPs 5 GG and over 2000 hits.
He also has more SB, TB a higher BA career and he’s not in the HOF. I’m not saying Jones wasn’t a very good player, but Gold Gloves don’t make a HOF either. There a lot of great defensive players not in the HOF. There many 430 HR guys who aren’t HOF too.

Fred McGriff
Carlos Delgado
Adam Dunn
Jose Canseco

Gary Sheffield has 509. I don’t care about credibility, but those are facts. Maybe Jones gets in eventually, but Robert still has plenty of time to develop into an elite MLB player.


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Old 03-24-2021, 05:36 PM   #861
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Austin Riley with 2 massive homers today. Those poor baseballs.
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Old 03-24-2021, 05:38 PM   #862
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Josh bell and Ryan Zimmerman in beast mode
Would be nice if my boy soto got some love from his elders

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Old 03-24-2021, 05:45 PM   #863
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Dale Murphy has 2 MVPs 5 GG and over 2000 hits.
He also has more SB, TB a higher BA career and he’s not in the HOF. I’m not saying Jones wasn’t a very good player, but Gold Gloves don’t make a HOF either. There a lot of great defensive players not in the HOF. There many 430 HR guys who aren’t HOF too.

Fred McGriff
Carlos Delgado
Adam Dunn
Jose Canseco

Gary Sheffield has 509. I don’t care about credibility, but those are facts. Maybe Jones gets in eventually, but Robert still has plenty of time to develop into an elite MLB player.


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But Andruw Jones wasn’t a great defensive player. He was arguably the best of all time.
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Old 03-24-2021, 05:46 PM   #864
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Dale Murphy has 2 MVPs 5 GG and over 2000 hits.
He also has more SB, TB a higher BA career and he’s not in the HOF. I’m not saying Jones wasn’t a very good player, but Gold Gloves don’t make a HOF either. There a lot of great defensive players not in the HOF. There many 430 HR guys who aren’t HOF too.

Fred McGriff
Carlos Delgado
Adam Dunn
Jose Canseco

Gary Sheffield has 509. I don’t care about credibility, but those are facts. Maybe Jones gets in eventually, but Robert still has plenty of time to develop into an elite MLB player.


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A) Gold gloves do make HOFers. See my example of Ozzie Smith.
B) Those HR hitters you mentioned didn't have the 10 straight gold gloves.

Use are using two half arguments in a combined fashioned to make one whole argument. Can't do that. You have to look at the whole picture. Hence the........Luis Robert isn't Andruw Jones.
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Josh bell and Ryan Zimmerman in beast mode
Would be nice if my boy soto got some love from his elders

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But Andruw Jones wasn’t a great defensive player. He was arguably the best of all time.

So why isn’t he a 1st ballot HOF?

Or 2nd
Or 3rd
Or 4th

If he’s so great of a player why only 40% of the vote? Surely the writers would appreciate him more.


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So why isn’t he a 1st ballot HOF?

Or 2nd
Or 3rd
Or 4th

If he’s so great of a player why only 40% of the vote? Surely the writers would appreciate him more.


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I’m not saying he’s a first ballot hall of famer myself. I’m just saying, he’s not a great defensive player. That’s selling him way short

And writers don’t know what they’re doing.
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A) Gold gloves do make HOFers. See my example of Ozzie Smith.
B) Those HR hitters you mentioned didn't have the 10 straight gold gloves.

Use are using two half arguments in a combined fashioned to make one whole argument. Can't do that. You have to look at the whole picture. Hence the........Luis Robert isn't Andruw Jones.

The last 6 years of his career Andruw Jones wasn’t Andruw Jones. His career died quickly after leaving ATL. That’s not a half argument. Great players don’t fade that many years. Yea defensive awards are great, and 10 straight is incredible. But writing a guy like Robert off after a half season is ridiculous.


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I’m ready for Spring Training to be over and get some real baseball going...
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Old 03-24-2021, 09:28 PM   #870
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Mondesi went 1-2 today with a Triple and a walk, i'm almost more excited for the bb than the 3B
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Mondesi went 1-2 today with a Triple and a walk, i'm almost more excited for the bb than the 3B

Franmil tripled(2) again today too while we’re on the subject of speed burners..


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Franmil tripled(2) again today too while we’re on the subject of speed burners..


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Old 03-24-2021, 11:17 PM   #873
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I’m ready for Spring Training to be over and get some real baseball going...
No kidding. Let's go!!!
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Old 03-25-2021, 08:11 AM   #875
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Kevin Newman - 16 for 22 (.727!) ZERO Ks
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