COMC seller kcjonez

airforce21one · 03-31-2021, 05:10 AM

Seller had a card priced at 1.00, and I offered 0.75.

Seller immediately raises the price of the card to 1.95, and then counters with a $1.00 offer (presumably to make the 49% off look good).

This hobby never ceases to amaze me.

nam812 · 03-31-2021, 05:36 AM

I obviously do not know the card so I am just offering a possible scenario. Maybe $1.00 was already a great deal for the card and you alerted him that he was under priced by making an offer instead of buying it outright.

shrevecity · 03-31-2021, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by nam812

I obviously do not know the card so I am just offering a possible scenario. Maybe $1.00 was already a great deal for the card and you alerted him that he was under priced by making an offer instead of buying it outright.

My first thought as well and he raised it so he would remember it and offered it to you for the price he had since you could have already bought it for that price.

adamdavidson47 · 03-31-2021, 06:02 AM

Maybe you should've just bought it for a dollar??

I don't understand why people post garbage like this.

Boohoooo the seller didn't take offer, I'm going to to cry about it to everyone I know.

shrevecity · 03-31-2021, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by adamdavidson47

Maybe you should've just bought it for a dollar??

I don't understand why people post garbage like this.

Boohoooo the seller didn't take offer, I'm going to to cry about it to everyone I know.

OP said it hobby never ceases to amaze me..

checkoutmydeals · 03-31-2021, 09:22 AM

I don't think the seller was being evil. I think it's most likely that they were trying to give you the opportunity to obtain the card for the original asking price.

With offers, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. If you accept no offers, then newbies to the site will get salty because the item is marked "make offer", and they have to add money to their account to make an offer, and then they find that the seller doesn't accept offers.

Many sellers on this board have requested that if a seller has their account set at not accepting any offers, that the "make offer" button not appear on their cards, but so far that has not happened.

OTOH, if you accept offers at 50% off (the most you can accept) and actually take the 50% offer, some people will get upset that you didn't just price the card at 50% off in the first place. (See also, people who complain about sellers who are perpetually having fake 50% off / 70% off / 90% off sales).

Some sellers use the offer feature to alert them to price swings in the market. It works both ways. It could be that they originally priced a card at $x but the market price has dropped. It could be that they originally priced a card at $x but the market price has risen.

There are also buyers who will spam sellers with offer after offer after offer, always at the seller's minimum. If the seller counters at even 1 cent above the offer, the buyer will reject it and make a new offer at the seller's minimum.

To avoid the temptation of raising the price on a legitimately underpriced card after receiving an offer, and to avoid getting spammed with 50% offers, I've set all of my accounts to auto-accept offers at a certain percentage, and to auto-reject offers below that.

When I buy, I'll sometimes make an offer to see if a seller has auto-accept enabled. If not, then going forward I'll either buy at their asking price, make an offer at their auto-accept price, or pass on the item. Good luck!

no10pin · 03-31-2021, 10:47 AM

I've bought several things from him over the years at good prices.

It's a quarter. Go all out next time and you won't have any regrets.

discostu · 03-31-2021, 01:03 PM

Their have ben numerous times where someone made me an offer that caused me to look up ebay pricing on cards.

Cards that clearly were priced too low. Price adjustment and decline would follow.

See a deal, buy the deal. Once you haggle, you open up for the seller to be aware.

MFaulkCollector · 03-31-2021, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by discostu

Their have ben numerous times where someone made me an offer that caused me to look up ebay pricing on cards.

Cards that clearly were priced too low. Price adjustment and decline would follow.

See a deal, buy the deal. Once you haggle, you open up for the seller to be aware.

This should be the anthem of all buyers since late 2019; the best advice that could be given if you actually want the item

Brady7799 · 03-31-2021, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by airforce21one

Seller had a card priced at 1.00, and I offered 0.75.

Seller immediately raises the price of the card to 1.95, and then counters with a $1.00 offer (presumably to make the 49% off look good).

This hobby never ceases to amaze me.

if this kind of thing grinds your gears, you're in for some really good times in this hobby.

Dragonman · 03-31-2021, 07:59 PM

This could be the most amazing post I have ever read....If a guy has a card that I want or am looking to flip for a dollar instead of making an offer I just splurge and spend the whole dollar on the card...Then again I have been known to be living life on the edge..Call me crazy.

valleynuckfan · 03-31-2021, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by discostu

Their have ben numerous times where someone made me an offer that caused me to look up ebay pricing on cards.

Cards that clearly were priced too low. Price adjustment and decline would follow.

See a deal, buy the deal. Once you haggle, you open up for the seller to be aware.

Couldn't agree more- been there myself.
Sometimes I'm way to busy to keep up with the market and quick trends and I even forget some items I've listed. Occasionally they get snapped up for really really good value to the buyer with the BIN. Mostly though I'll get an offer which alerts me to check and make adjustments if necessary.

pfb11 · 04-01-2021, 12:27 AM

He gave you a shot to still buy it at the original price. I don't have a problem with this.

adamdavidson47 · 04-01-2021, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by discostu

Their have ben numerous times where someone made me an offer that caused me to look up ebay pricing on cards.

Cards that clearly were priced too low. Price adjustment and decline would follow.

See a deal, buy the deal. Once you haggle, you open up for the seller to be aware.

Exactly

I've done it numerous times where someone sends me an offer on a 60 cent card, and I go look and the next lowest is 2 or 3 bucks.

JustinVerlander07 · 04-01-2021, 03:26 PM

I do that a lot. If my card was the lowest listed by a margin that I wasn't aware of and you alert me by trying to get it a quarter cheaper, I'll raise it and depending on the card I'll either offer it at the original list price or just reject.

OriginalRapsfan · 04-02-2021, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by airforce21one

Seller had a card priced at 1.00, and I offered 0.75.

Seller immediately raises the price of the card to 1.95, and then counters with a $1.00 offer (presumably to make the 49% off look good).

This hobby never ceases to amaze me.

This is why I don't take offers anymore. I buy and sell cards on COMC and don't have a lot of money to spend on cards, but if the card is $1.00 or less, just buy it. I try to price all of my items fairly - usually lower than the competition. A few years ago, I had a Steve Francis 2003-04 Bowman Chrome refractor/300 priced for $1.00, which was already the lowest price (Now prices have gone up and one is for sale for over $20) and somebody offered me $0.60 or 0.75. I felt like telling him to f-off. I declined his offer and he bought the card anyways. I got tired of dealing with this hassle and cheapness.

Budler · 04-03-2021, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by adamdavidson47

Exactly

I've done it numerous times where someone sends me an offer on a 60 cent card, and I go look and the next lowest is 2 or 3 bucks.

Just because they are priced that high do not mean the card is worth that. Those are asking prices. Did you check out them and see if they are taking offers and what they were or what the last ones sold for?
I have seen cards priced at $29.99 and $49.99 and other one of them listed at $1.00 There are sellers that have a lot of cards priced at $2.75 that you can pick up on Sportlots at .18.

I dislike it when a sellers tells me it is just a .25. If it is just a .25 why is he so worried about it.

Disclaimer: I just buy for my PC. I have over 19,000 on my want list so If you do not want to sell me your .60 card for .55 I have a lot more I can buy. Every .05 or more I save on a card means I can get more cards out of the 19,000 cards needed. Yes I try real hard to get the best price I can.

If the card is really a $20 card and you raised the price. I would understand it.

valleynuckfan · 04-03-2021, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Budler

I dislike it when a sellers tells me it is just a .25. If it is just a .25 why is he so worried about it.

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You don't have to like it.
As the seller doesn't generally like it when you tell him what his cards are worth.
Oh yeah and that .25? It's his while the card is up for sale and he can decide what he wants to do with it.
Too many buyers think that just because someone else is selling the same card for $5 when mine is up for $10 then I have to discount, match or beat.
Not the way it works at all.

Budler · 04-03-2021, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by valleynuckfan

You don't have to like it.
As the seller doesn't generally like it when you tell him what his cards are worth.
Oh yeah and that .25? It's his while the card is up for sale and he can decide what he wants to do with it.
Too many buyers think that just because someone else is selling the same card for $5 when mine is up for $10 then I have to discount, match or beat.
Not the way it works at all.

I have never told anyone what their card is worth. But I do tell them what I will pay for a card. It is their choice to take it or leave it.

Yes there are many buyers like that. I would never even talk to you if I find it cheaper some place else. Why would I want you to match a price if I could really buy it at that price from someone else??? Why would I upset someone that I may want to buy from later??? Only on a few trades have I even told a person that I could buy the card cheaper some place else.

Yes I have sold cards and have had buyers do that to me. (I can buy it cheaper at X place) Again I have the choice to say NO and move on.

I was trying to get across the point that the next highest price maybe over priced. It is good business practice to do that (price just a little under what the other cards are IF the prices are not over priced)

mikejones · 04-13-2021, 09:15 AM

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SleeperCards · 04-13-2021, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by adamdavidson47

Maybe you should've just bought it for a dollar??

I don't understand why people post garbage like this.

Boohoooo the seller didn't take offer, I'm going to to cry about it to everyone I know.

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Originally Posted by adamdavidson47

Want to know a good way to piss off a buyer? Here's one:

Guy has card I want. I make an offer, he counters, I counter, etc until he counters with a price (over ebay by a couple bucks but whatever) that I accept. He then posts another of the same card. I offer same price I just bought the previous one for 5 min ago. He counters at a dollar more. I accept. He posts ANOTHER one 5 min later. I offer price I just paid. He counters with yet another dollar more. I decline.

Why do this? I would've continued to purchase as many of those cards as you had, but you had to get greedy. Now I might not even offer you on another card ever again.

I don't get it.

This you?

PurplesaurusRex · 04-13-2021, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonman

This could be the most amazing post I have ever read....If a guy has a card that I want or am looking to flip for a dollar instead of making an offer I just splurge and spend the whole dollar on the card...Then again I have been known to be living life on the edge..Call me crazy.

LOL. I wonder if the seller is also laughing. All for a handful of pennies.

ThePatriotWay · 04-13-2021, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by airforce21one

Seller had a card priced at 1.00, and I offered 0.75.

Seller immediately raises the price of the card to 1.95, and then counters with a $1.00 offer (presumably to make the 49% off look good).

This hobby never ceases to amaze me.

I rarely bother with offers for this reason, I'll just straight up buy the thing for a $1 lol.

YouTheManNick · 04-13-2021, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePatriotWay

I rarely bother with offers for this reason, I'll just straight up buy the thing for a $1 lol.

comc needs more buyers like you.

although at least OP asked for 25% off. I swear there's an army of people who just bounce around the site putting in 50% off offers on everything they see and just see what happens.

I blanket reject all 50% off offers.

glen87 · 04-13-2021, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by YouTheManNick

comc needs more buyers like you.

although at least OP asked for 25% off. I swear there's an army of people who just bounce around the site putting in 50% off offers on everything they see and just see what happens.

I blanket reject all 50% off offers.

then why do you have them set so low?

03-31-2021, 05:10 AM	#1
airforce21one Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 174	COMC seller kcjonez Seller had a card priced at 1.00, and I offered 0.75. Seller immediately raises the price of the card to 1.95, and then counters with a $1.00 offer (presumably to make the 49% off look good). This hobby never ceases to amaze me.

03-31-2021, 05:36 AM	#2
nam812 Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 942	I obviously do not know the card so I am just offering a possible scenario. Maybe $1.00 was already a great deal for the card and you alerted him that he was under priced by making an offer instead of buying it outright. __________________ My sportlots inventory - https://www.sportlots.com/dealers/?dealer=nam81267

03-31-2021, 06:02 AM	#4
adamdavidson47 Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 947 adamdavey47 adamdavidson47	Maybe you should've just bought it for a dollar?? I don't understand why people post garbage like this. Boohoooo the seller didn't take offer, I'm going to to cry about it to everyone I know. __________________ Looking for 1959 Topps All Stars graded PSA 8 or higher. Check out my COMC for great deals!!

03-31-2021, 10:47 AM	#7
no10pin Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 16,901 no10pin no10pin	I've bought several things from him over the years at good prices. It's a quarter. Go all out next time and you won't have any regrets. __________________ Always looking for more George Brett stuff. Need more rookies, low numbered inserts/parallels and on-card autos (no Panini).

03-31-2021, 01:03 PM	#8
discostu Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 7,990	Their have ben numerous times where someone made me an offer that caused me to look up ebay pricing on cards. Cards that clearly were priced too low. Price adjustment and decline would follow. See a deal, buy the deal. Once you haggle, you open up for the seller to be aware. __________________ Every day I start to ooze.

03-31-2021, 09:22 AM	#6
checkoutmydeals Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: USA Posts: 3,051 king-collect checkoutmydeals	I don't think the seller was being evil. I think it's most likely that they were trying to give you the opportunity to obtain the card for the original asking price. With offers, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. If you accept no offers, then newbies to the site will get salty because the item is marked "make offer", and they have to add money to their account to make an offer, and then they find that the seller doesn't accept offers. Many sellers on this board have requested that if a seller has their account set at not accepting any offers, that the "make offer" button not appear on their cards, but so far that has not happened. OTOH, if you accept offers at 50% off (the most you can accept) and actually take the 50% offer, some people will get upset that you didn't just price the card at 50% off in the first place. (See also, people who complain about sellers who are perpetually having fake 50% off / 70% off / 90% off sales). Some sellers use the offer feature to alert them to price swings in the market. It works both ways. It could be that they originally priced a card at $x but the market price has dropped. It could be that they originally priced a card at $x but the market price has risen. There are also buyers who will spam sellers with offer after offer after offer, always at the seller's minimum. If the seller counters at even 1 cent above the offer, the buyer will reject it and make a new offer at the seller's minimum. To avoid the temptation of raising the price on a legitimately underpriced card after receiving an offer, and to avoid getting spammed with 50% offers, I've set all of my accounts to auto-accept offers at a certain percentage, and to auto-reject offers below that. When I buy, I'll sometimes make an offer to see if a seller has auto-accept enabled. If not, then going forward I'll either buy at their asking price, make an offer at their auto-accept price, or pass on the item. Good luck!

03-31-2021, 07:59 PM	#11
Dragonman Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Pittsburgh,Pa. Posts: 970	This could be the most amazing post I have ever read....If a guy has a card that I want or am looking to flip for a dollar instead of making an offer I just splurge and spend the whole dollar on the card...Then again I have been known to be living life on the edge..Call me crazy.

04-01-2021, 12:27 AM	#13
pfb11 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,741	He gave you a shot to still buy it at the original price. I don't have a problem with this. __________________ isn't it great when you click the "view post" link on a ignored poster, and your decision to block is reaffirmed?

04-01-2021, 03:26 PM	#15
JustinVerlander07 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: michigan Posts: 17,357 gladdyontherise gladdyontherise	I do that a lot. If my card was the lowest listed by a margin that I wasn't aware of and you alert me by trying to get it a quarter cheaper, I'll raise it and depending on the card I'll either offer it at the original list price or just reject. __________________ Collecting Justin Verlander, Detroit Tigers, Michigan State Spartans, Miz, Jey Uso, Kelani Jordan, Macho Man, WWE "Cavs in 7. Write it down"

04-13-2021, 09:15 AM	#20
mikejones Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: fresno Posts: 5,138	........... Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk __________________ Why the hell are you buying Siemian stuff. Dude is done, can't you tell I'm trying to get rid of him because he'll never be our starting QB again....