✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹ - Page 42

Trueblue · 04-14-2021, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by seanrs1

For those that did not collect during Ohtani mania in 2018....what were prices like then versus what they are today? And for those that bought in 2018 are you now buying, holding or selling? For disclosure I only own some low end base cards that I bought last summer training (when I started collecting) and picked up some low end base cards during spring training and the past few weeks.

I've never stopped collecting. I am selling all my lower end base or none rare cards. I am moving some medium to high end if I have more than 2-3 copies. I am not selling any bowman chrome pitching autos and Heritage Low autos - those will be his best autos when the dust settles. For non auto, I would be loading up on Heritage Low Action and #700 parallels. There are so many Ohtani RCs, but I think it's pretty obvious which ones will come out on top.

RaceDog · 04-14-2021, 09:06 PM

I am glad no one ever bought this one the way both of these guys are going. Only 34 of these were printed and this is the only one graded. Might be worth a couple $$ someday

NYRE2PECT · 04-14-2021, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Trueblue

I've never stopped collecting. I am selling all my lower end base or none rare cards. I am moving some medium to high end if I have more than 2-3 copies. I am not selling any bowman chrome pitching autos and Heritage Low autos - those will be his best autos when the dust settles. For non auto, I would be loading up on Heritage Low Action and #700 parallels. There are so many Ohtani RCs, but I think it's pretty obvious which ones will come out on top.

Icons!

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Trueblue · 04-14-2021, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

Icons!

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Haha, I'm not sure how helpful it would be tell people that a RC /87 is a great buying opportunity, but yes, the icons is a darling. If only PSA would start grading cards again.

Trueblue · 04-14-2021, 10:22 PM

But for real, guys. Heritage Low Action/Autos - this is the card that started it all for me.

al3xmac10 · 04-14-2021, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Trueblue

But for real, guys. Heritage Low Action/Autos - this is the card that started it all for me.

Dream card! Beautiful!

jayjay0122 · 04-15-2021, 05:05 PM

Is the Heritage SP #17 considered a true RC since he didn't debut until after that was released or is the Heritage High the true RC in Heritage?

Trueblue · 04-15-2021, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jayjay0122

Is the Heritage SP #17 considered a true RC since he didn't debut until after that was released or is the Heritage High the true RC in Heritage?

I don't know if you can call it a "true" RC since it's technically an action SP. That said, the #17 was undoubtedly the IT rookie card in 2018. I think PSA 10s were over $1K at the height. Opening Day pre-dated Heritage Low, but this is pretty much the first pack pulled Ohtani RC from a real (heritage/flagship) set.

I love that that it's short printed with no parallels other than red/blue ink autos. It's a classic like Ronnie's S2 bat down, but heritage.

Trueblue · 04-15-2021, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by al3xmac10

Dream card! Beautiful!

Thanks! I still remember buying it for $2K, sweaty palmed and in disbelief that i was spending that much for a baseball card. Times (and the hobby) have changed.

Flamethrower · 04-15-2021, 05:22 PM

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jjrpilot · 04-15-2021, 06:28 PM

Here's my only Ohtani card (rookie).

It's a 2018 Bowman Chrome Sterling Atomic Refractor /150!

I know that there's a million rookies of him to choose...BUT I LOVED this one bc it pictures him both as a pitcher and batter....on the SAME card!

I absolutely love it!

Rage · 04-15-2021, 06:39 PM

Some more pickups

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NYRE2PECT · 04-15-2021, 07:40 PM

Come on now, one of you big dogs step up and get you one: https://myslabs.com/slab/view/203010/

NYRE2PECT · 04-15-2021, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jjrpilot

Here's my only Ohtani card (rookie).

It's a 2018 Bowman Chrome Sterling Atomic Refractor /150!

I know that there's a million rookies of him to choose...BUT I LOVED this one bc it pictures him both as a pitcher and batter....on the SAME card!

I absolutely love it!

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Originally Posted by Rage

Some more pickups

/50

/100

Nice cards - Sho Time!

al3xmac10 · 04-17-2021, 01:28 AM

Nice hitting by Trout, great baserunning by Ohtani

https://www.mlb.com/news/mike-trout-...els-past-twins

tblood · 04-17-2021, 08:38 AM

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Geez. Beautiful card!

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HarryLime · 04-17-2021, 11:29 AM

The 2018 Heritage ROA Red (from either series) will just always hold a place in my mind as a watershed card.

I think when we look back on the '10s and look to piece together all of the components that led to the massive hobby explosion that we're in now, the Hertitage Ohtani Red ROA will be one of those cards people remember.

Judge certainly caused an incredible stir in 2017 that, along with Bellinger, brought a ton of people back into the hobby, but I specifically remember hearing about that first Red ROA selling for something like $68k and thinking "What is going on with modern baseball cards? I need to check this out."

And while Ohtani was quick to get hurt, the Acuna and Soto train was right there to pick everyone up and keep them rolling.

Arthur

pcptrade · 04-17-2021, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Trueblue

I've never stopped collecting. I am selling all my lower end base or none rare cards. I am moving some medium to high end if I have more than 2-3 copies. I am not selling any bowman chrome pitching autos and Heritage Low autos - those will be his best autos when the dust settles. For non auto, I would be loading up on Heritage Low Action and #700 parallels. There are so many Ohtani RCs, but I think it's pretty obvious which ones will come out on top.

I am doing the same as well. The prices on his 2018 Topps Update parallels (Black, Indy etc), TC Sapphire, TC Update Parallels (Gold, Red, Refractor, Xfractor) are still cheaper compared to Acuna/Soto. If he can stay healthy and continue to perform well, there is still plenty of upside even from current price levels in my opinion. I will hold on to two or three copies of each of these parallels long term.

cloakroom · 04-17-2021, 09:07 PM

is his rookie debut worth snatching up? it's his first batting card, right? could be wrong there.

Trueblue · 04-17-2021, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pcptrade

I am doing the same as well. The prices on his 2018 Topps Update parallels (Black, Indy etc), TC Sapphire, TC Update Parallels (Gold, Red, Refractor, Xfractor) are still cheaper compared to Acuna/Soto. If he can stay healthy and continue to perform well, there is still plenty of upside even from current price levels in my opinion. I will hold on to two or three copies of each of these parallels long term.

Agreed that parallel prices have not caught up yet. Novice collectors tend to be comfortable spending up to $x until demand breaks the ceiling or multiple high end collectors step in. If he keeps doing his thing, it's just a matter of time. That said, it's hard not to lower cost basis with selling low-medium end until that occurs.

Trueblue · 04-17-2021, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cloakroom

is his rookie debut worth snatching up? it's his first batting card, right? could be wrong there.

Bowman Batting is his first main stream batting RC. Unless you're buying the auto, it's tough to count it in the top 5 RCs though. Bowman is typically more known for prospects and the batting is his second Bowman. The autograph version is obviously still highly desirable.

Rookie debuts are very secondary and tend to go up last. Until recently, they were pretty much novelties. Tatis helped changed that and Acuna/Soto followed suit, but it's not the best "investment" card if that's what you're after. Stick to 700/150/US1/HMT1.

cloakroom · 04-17-2021, 09:40 PM

[QUOTE=Trueblue;17233379]Bowman Batting is his first main stream batting RC. Unless you're buying the auto, it's tough to count it in the top 5 RCs though. Bowman is typically more known for prospects and the batting is his second Bowman. The autograph version is obviously still highly desirable.

Oh I didn't realize he had a bowman before that one. it' still not designated as a "bowman 1st" though, right?

Trueblue · 04-17-2021, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Trueblue

Bowman Batting is his first main stream batting RC. Unless you're buying the auto, it's tough to count it in the top 5 RCs though. Bowman is typically more known for prospects and the batting is his second Bowman. The autograph version is obviously still highly desirable.

Oh I didn't realize he had a bowman before that one. it' still not designated as a "bowman 1st" though, right?

2018 Bowman is his pitching auto and his true 1st Bowman. However since Ohtani came as major league ready, he was given the RC logo instead of the "1st Bowman" which is for prospects. It's however still his 1st Bowman and the creme dela creme of his RC Autos. There was some absolutely ridiculous hype around this card - it was as much if not more than Strasburg and Harper.

2018 Bowman Chrome is his second Bowman and is like the 5th or 6th set he has a RC in. From my observation, it looks this confuses new Ohtani buyers as they only see it as batting versus pitching, and pick batting cause they believe Ohtani is a long term batter. While I don't disagree with the logic, the set pedigree is night and day. It's a true 1st Bowman Auto versus a 2nd. Nobody really cared about the batting until new collectors came in. Other OG collectors in this thread can attest to that.

okumeister · 04-17-2021, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cloakroom

is his rookie debut worth snatching up? it's his first batting card, right? could be wrong there.

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Originally Posted by Trueblue

Bowman Batting is his first main stream batting RC. Unless you're buying the auto, it's tough to count it in the top 5 RCs though. Bowman is typically more known for prospects and the batting is his second Bowman. The autograph version is obviously still highly desirable.

Rookie debuts are very secondary and tend to go up last. Until recently, they were pretty much novelties. Tatis helped changed that and Acuna/Soto followed suit, but it's not the best "investment" card if that's what you're after. Stick to 700/150/US1/HMT1.

If you want a base card of him batting, Finest base card or Topps Angels team set card of him may be a good option.
The team set cards generally use same image as the flagship (S1, S2) cards, but for Ohtani, they used picture of him batting.
Those came out well before Update as well.

NYRE2PECT · 04-18-2021, 07:55 AM

There are a lot to choose from, which makes it all very confusing. His PSA Rookie Set Registry, what I am working on, has 63 cards listed. I think it's the largest rookie set in the registry (or it used to be).

With what I have currently in-hand, at PSA, and now waiting to get graded, I have 57/63.

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jjrpilot Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: USA Posts: 2,310	Here's my only Ohtani card (rookie). It's a 2018 Bowman Chrome Sterling Atomic Refractor /150! I know that there's a million rookies of him to choose...BUT I LOVED this one bc it pictures him both as a pitcher and batter....on the SAME card! I absolutely love it! __________________ PC: Ichiro - Mahomes - Soto

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al3xmac10 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 13,428 al3xmac10	Nice hitting by Trout, great baserunning by Ohtani https://www.mlb.com/news/mike-trout-...els-past-twins __________________ Instagram: al3xmac10 Always looking for rare Shohei Ohtani 2018 autos & [Ichiro 2016 Topps Now #154 Inscription Auto /10]

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RaceDog Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 2,342	I am glad no one ever bought this one the way both of these guys are going. Only 34 of these were printed and this is the only one graded. Might be worth a couple $$ someday

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jayjay0122 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 1,168	Is the Heritage SP #17 considered a true RC since he didn't debut until after that was released or is the Heritage High the true RC in Heritage?

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NYRE2PECT Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: San Antonio Posts: 8,150	Come on now, one of you big dogs step up and get you one: https://myslabs.com/slab/view/203010/

04-17-2021, 11:29 AM	#1042
HarryLime Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Spaceball 1 Posts: 4,794	The 2018 Heritage ROA Red (from either series) will just always hold a place in my mind as a watershed card. I think when we look back on the '10s and look to piece together all of the components that led to the massive hobby explosion that we're in now, the Hertitage Ohtani Red ROA will be one of those cards people remember. Judge certainly caused an incredible stir in 2017 that, along with Bellinger, brought a ton of people back into the hobby, but I specifically remember hearing about that first Red ROA selling for something like $68k and thinking "What is going on with modern baseball cards? I need to check this out." And while Ohtani was quick to get hurt, the Acuna and Soto train was right there to pick everyone up and keep them rolling. Arthur

04-17-2021, 09:07 PM	#1044
cloakroom Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 322	is his rookie debut worth snatching up? it's his first batting card, right? could be wrong there.

04-17-2021, 09:40 PM	#1047
cloakroom Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 322	[QUOTE=Trueblue;17233379]Bowman Batting is his first main stream batting RC. Unless you're buying the auto, it's tough to count it in the top 5 RCs though. Bowman is typically more known for prospects and the batting is his second Bowman. The autograph version is obviously still highly desirable. Oh I didn't realize he had a bowman before that one. it' still not designated as a "bowman 1st" though, right?

04-18-2021, 07:55 AM	#1050
NYRE2PECT Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: San Antonio Posts: 8,150	There are a lot to choose from, which makes it all very confusing. His PSA Rookie Set Registry, what I am working on, has 63 cards listed. I think it's the largest rookie set in the registry (or it used to be). With what I have currently in-hand, at PSA, and now waiting to get graded, I have 57/63.