My rolling Target stock thread

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by Kobe101

You get way too emotional about this. It is a hobby.

I hate the fact that bots get all of the product but how is it stealing?

I am sure it wouldn't be stealing and you would be okay with it if the next drop there was a glitch in Target's system and only you were able to get through and you bought 10,000 blasters that you were just going to resell.

Lol it's a hobby. What have you been in a coma for the last 13 months? If this was still a hobby we would still be able to buy product online and find it easily in stores like 2019 and earlier. Wouldn't have every hobby product presale marked up 3-10 times cost either that's for sure.

Why do you think ticket botting eventually became illegal? Because it is legalized theft. How is this any different? Actually its different in terms of the bots are making way more than they ever made botting tickets.

[actionbryan]

Walked up just as rep was leaving . Didn’t put out anything good , ouch on the tease .

Only sports was hockey megas , which I would have bought one but they were ALL damaged boxes.

There was in demand non sport but I’ve got enough of that, and the eBay margins aren’t really all that much after selling costs .

Last week was loaded with baseball, it was pretty fun

Select and Prizm are a myth lol

[Chicosbailbonds]

I do find it humorous that the people who wait in lines for hours are complaining about the bots.

[Vinny1984]

Is anyone as surprised as I am that there is still an abundance of Magic and Yu-go-oh on the shelves? I know the “good stuff” gets swiped right away and they don’t have the history that Pokémon does but by now, I figured these would be getting cleaned out as well. I mean, even the lowest tier of garbage Pokémon doesn’t last two minutes on the shelf.

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by Chicosbailbonds

I do find it humorous that the people who wait in lines for hours are complaining about the bots.

What's so funny about it? These 2 groups couldn't be further apart. Right now the people waiting in lines have to spend a bunch of time and be miserable to get a few boxes and packs. These people Im sure mostly do it because they are poor or in the lower middle class.

Someone with a good bot once it is set up basically spends next to no time and effort to make endless amounts of money. Do you people that keep saying its fine realize how much a good bot has made in the last year? Literally retirement money. Millions of dollars. But guess what? It doesn't matter how much they make. They will never stop unless the serious threat of jail and big money fines happens. Have you ever heard of a single bot user with a good bot voluntarily quitting and giving up the money train?

How any moron could compare someone standing in a line for a few boxes of cards to bot users making millions of dollars is beyond me. But I shouldn't be surprised. There are many more stupid people in this world than people that have a clue.

[BRob1]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

These people Im sure mostly do it because they are poor or in the lower middle class.

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[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by BRob1

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What other reason do you think people are standing in these lines? What percentage of people do you think stand in lines that have a great job and/or are millionaires? Probably pretty close to 0%. People do it because they need the money. I can guarantee you if I retired tomorrow you would never see me waiting for hours in a line ever again.

[Brskt9024]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

These people Im sure mostly do it because they are poor or in the lower middle class.

That’s a pretty shitty presumption on your part...and a long way from viewing this for it actually is, a hobby.
For some people this is the only way for them to get product to open because they refuse to pay resale. Others may flip what they buy to afford what they want to rip. Some simply look at it as easy extra money. Doesn’t make em poor or lower middle class. You should let go of the notion that every person waiting to buy cards is doing it to feed their family. And that every person using a bot is becoming a millionaire off of it. Find some middle ground bro, it might bring you some peace
And tbh, I’ve come across A LOT of people that up until the new Friday policy treated this whole concept of card hunting as a damn game! They just did it for the thrill of finding some cards in the wild. So there’s that as well

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[yanksfan1]

Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Went to Target today and they restocked this morning.

Massive Football and Basketball restock.

c'mon don't leave us hanging, what did you get?

[BRob1]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

What other reason do you think people are standing in these lines? What percentage of people do you think stand in lines that have a great job and/or are millionaires? Probably pretty close to 0%. People do it because they need the money. I can guarantee you if I retired tomorrow you would never see me waiting for hours in a line ever again.

it’s probably GENERALLY true. I always say the people in line by and large don’t have jobs, but people always want to find the exception.

I have a pretty good job and a decent amount of money and I used to spend 15 hours a week or so checking my local spots because i enjoyed the hunt. I don’t wait in lines at 3am though.


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[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by Brskt9024

That’s a pretty shitty presumption on your part...and a long way from viewing this for it actually is, a hobby.
For some people this is the only way for them to get product to open because they refuse to pay resale. Others may flip what they buy to afford what they want to rip. Some simply look at it as easy extra money. Doesn’t make em poor or lower middle class. You should let go of the notion that every person waiting to buy cards is doing it to feed their family. And that every person using a bot is becoming a millionaire off of it. Find some middle ground bro, it might bring you some peace


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Yeah it sure is a hobby. When 95%+ of people involved are only trying to make money and less than 5% treat it as a hobby is it a hobby or a business overall? Nba top shot must be a hobby as well.

There are plenty of lower middle class people that don’t have to do this to feed their families. But I’m sure it makes it much easier.

If you’re spending hours in lines on a regular basis to open only a few boxes of cards, never resell a box, and probably lose money I don’t know what to tell you. Sounds like the definition of insanity to me. Up until recently virtually every retail product being stocked in stores got down to around 2.5 times MSRP or less. Until Optic, besides for Prizm, every single 2020 football retail product got down to 2 times MSRP or less.So rich people with great jobs would rather save peanuts to them to buy those few boxes in stores versus buying at resale. They’d rather stand in the lines. Makes sense.

Never said every person running a bot is a millionaire. If you have a good bot you should have made millions in the last year. For example this one guy on Facebook got like 20 of the 199 Optic Premium football sets. If he got 10% of those how many boxes when Target and Walmart have put up 5,000-10,000+ boxes do you think a guy like that has got over the last year? Millions of dollars worth of profit. There were bots on Walmart.com getting 1,000+ boxes from 1 drop. Target on the first stock you used to be able to buy 100 boxes at a time on 1 account. This is just cards btw. Add in the ps5’s, sneakers, and all other flip worthy products. It adds up pretty quick.

[jduds]

Originally Posted by Brskt9024

That’s a pretty shitty presumption on your part...and a long way from viewing this for it actually is, a hobby.
For some people this is the only way for them to get product to open because they refuse to pay resale. Others may flip what they buy to afford what they want to rip. Some simply look at it as easy extra money. Doesn’t make em poor or lower middle class. You should let go of the notion that every person waiting to buy cards is doing it to feed their family. And that every person using a bot is becoming a millionaire off of it. Find some middle ground bro, it might bring you some peace
And tbh, I’ve come across A LOT of people that up until the new Friday policy treated this whole concept of card hunting as a damn game! They just did it for the thrill of finding some cards in the wild. So there’s that as well

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I agree with this halfway. I've been to two 8 a.m. Target card days and found the folks in line surprisingly friendly and knowledgeable about the hobby. Many seem to be collectors. The ones who don't say anything come in and just say give me one of everything when they get to the front. It's a mixed bag. If it fits in my schedule and the lines not too long, I'll go occasionally.
I don't believe in half measures when discussing bot boys though. They are simply a-holes. I'm looking forward to the day they get legislated out of existence. The Chinese Social Credit score is frightening as all get out, but I almost wouldn't mind it if it meant bot users couldn't buy airline tickets or if it made their internet slow down (potential punishments for low Chinese Social Credit score).

[jkampis]

Originally Posted by BRob1

it’s probably GENERALLY true. I always say the people in line by and large don’t have jobs, but people always want to find the exception.

I have a pretty good job and a decent amount of money and I used to spend 15 hours a week or so checking my local spots because i enjoyed the hunt. I don’t wait in lines at 3am though.


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Same here. The thrill of the hunt has always been a big part of it. I’ve joked with friends that finding the restock is more fun than either ripping or reselling the product.

[jkampis]

In a non-Target related retail note, I’m seeing BOTH Donruss and Hoops 5-card gravity packs pop up on eBay this week. Anyone found any of these out in the wild at Dollar Tree this week?

[BRob1]

Originally Posted by jkampis

Same here. The thrill of the hunt has always been a big part of it. I’ve joked with friends that finding the restock is more fun than either ripping or reselling the product.

Absolutely. Nothing beat the thrill of finding a full restock that you could clear out lol. Those days are gone, but it’s a good memory!


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[base set]

The thrill of the hunt used to be finding the newly applied 40% off stickers on last year’s cards.

[actionbryan]

Originally Posted by BRob1

Absolutely. Nothing beat the thrill of finding a full restock that you could clear out lol. Those days are gone, but it’s a good memory!


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Technically a lot of wal marts are still no limit .

[base set]

I just go to the trading card line at quarter past the start time and pick up a couple packs of baseball cards to rip while everybody else buys basketball cards. I must be insane.

[BRob1]

Originally Posted by actionbryan

Technically a lot of wal marts are still no limit .

I guess they are, every one within 50 miles of me is limit 1.


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[wxguy44]

I just go to the trading card line at quarter past the start time and pick up a couple packs of baseball cards to rip while everybody else buys basketball cards. I must be insane.

Nah, you're just smart. You like what you like. and luckily its not in high demand like other stuff. Pokémon is hot, but I'm not gonna go buy any of that because I'm a basketball only guy. I follow NFL, but I don't know anything about NFL cards.

[Brskt9024]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

Yeah it sure is a hobby. When 95%+ of people involved are only trying to make money and less than 5% treat it as a hobby is it a hobby or a business overall? Nba top shot must be a hobby as well.

The perceived intrinsic value is a big dynamic of this hobby now. You should keep in mind that it’s collectors at the end of the day that keep things moving by acquiring big money cards/product from people that are looking to make money by selling them. If there’s a buyer that’s acquiring and collecting it’s still a hobby, even if that buyer intends on being a seller down the road.

Originally Posted by mossoholic

If you’re spending hours in lines on a regular basis to open only a few boxes of cards, never resell a box, and probably lose money I don’t know what to tell you. Sounds like the definition of insanity to me.

A quick flip versus taking a chance on opening a box is upto every individual. Again, it’s not this or that the way you see it. You could flip some and open some, coming back to it just being a hobby for some people and not a constant money making hustle.

Originally Posted by mossoholic

So rich people with great jobs would rather save peanuts to them to buy those few boxes in stores versus buying at resale. They’d rather stand in the lines. Makes sense.

Not everybody that’s rich has a great job, and not everybody with a great job is rich.
Like I said, some people just enjoy not overpaying for their product...and maybe that’s how the people you see as rich stay rich lol

it’s just funny to me that anyone waiting in line to buy product at retail is being judged and lumped in to whatever stereotype thats been created for the people doing it(doesn’t have a job/is poor/needs to do this to get by)

Even if that’s the case, how is that affecting you? Get a grip, move along, and buy your product at 2.5x retail since that’s your preference. Or don’t complain and make it seem like it’s beneath you to make the effort to get it like others.

Originally Posted by mossoholic

This is just cards btw. Add in the ps5’s, sneakers, and all other flip worthy products. It adds up pretty quick.

It may seem like every person running a bot can run up those kinds of numbers but that’s not the case. You gave me the example of one guy yourself, so anyone with that kind of success is in a very small minority. You realize these bots have to compete against each other right? It’s not as easy as it looks. People can spend thousands before they start seeing profit. If you really have enough of a problem with bots having an advantage over you, why not learn how to use one? that way you get what you want and no one is screwing you over


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[TimBuckTwo]

Originally Posted by jduds

I agree with this halfway. I've been to two 8 a.m. Target card days and found the folks in line surprisingly friendly and knowledgeable about the hobby. Many seem to be collectors. The ones who don't say anything come in and just say give me one of everything when they get to the front. It's a mixed bag. If it fits in my schedule and the lines not too long, I'll go occasionally.
I don't believe in half measures when discussing bot boys though. They are simply a-holes. I'm looking forward to the day they get legislated out of existence. The Chinese Social Credit score is frightening as all get out, but I almost wouldn't mind it if it meant bot users couldn't buy airline tickets or if it made their internet slow down (potential punishments for low Chinese Social Credit score).

COMMUNIST !!!

[SunDevil2422]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

What's so funny about it? These 2 groups couldn't be further apart. Right now the people waiting in lines have to spend a bunch of time and be miserable to get a few boxes and packs. These people Im sure mostly do it because they are poor or in the lower middle class.

Someone with a good bot once it is set up basically spends next to no time and effort to make endless amounts of money. Do you people that keep saying its fine realize how much a good bot has made in the last year? Literally retirement money. Millions of dollars. But guess what? It doesn't matter how much they make. They will never stop unless the serious threat of jail and big money fines happens. Have you ever heard of a single bot user with a good bot voluntarily quitting and giving up the money train?

How any moron could compare someone standing in a line for a few boxes of cards to bot users making millions of dollars is beyond me. But I shouldn't be surprised. There are many more stupid people in this world than people that have a clue.

Take a deep breath and step away from the keyboard.


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[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by BRob1

Absolutely. Nothing beat the thrill of finding a full restock that you could clear out lol. Those days are gone, but it’s a good memory!


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Yes but we aren't talking about full restocks. There is a huge difference between waiting around and trying to hit a home run clearing out a full restock versus waiting in lines 6-12 hours at 1 store to get a few boxes.

[jduds]

Originally Posted by TimBuckTwo

COMMUNIST !!!

Ha! Bot users bring out my latent authoritarian tendencies.