Deshaun Watson sexual assault accusations II

[codered]

Originally Posted by ArmyDC

Will Watson go on the commissioner’s exempt list? I’m guessing if the Texans cut him then Watson would magically settle all of the lawsuits..

Sounds like if he wants to play this year it’s in his best interests to settle the lawsuits now as the NFL won’t take any chances with the civil suits pending. On top of that it sounds like he would be to busy with court dates to actually play this year even if the league didn’t force him to sit. It’s messed up. Settle so you can play but the doubt will follow you your entire career or clear your name (if he truly is innocent) and most likely miss an entire season. I’m sure this is part of Buzbees strategy.

[ArmyDC]

Originally Posted by codered

Sounds like if he wants to play this year it’s in his best interests to settle the lawsuits now as the NFL won’t take any chances with the civil suits pending. On top of that it sounds like he would be to busy with court dates to actually play this year even if the league didn’t force him to sit. It’s messed up. Settle so you can play but the doubt will follow you your entire career or clear your name (if he truly is innocent) and most likely miss an entire season. I’m sure this is part of Buzbees strategy.

Has to put pressure on Texans as well, he goes on the exempt list they owe him his salary or they can cut him and get nothing for him. If he is innocent I would let this go as long as it takes to prove my innocence because his image is in the gutter right now. If there is a chance some of the stuff is true he should have settled 3 months ago..

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by ArmyDC

Has to put pressure on Texans as well, he goes on the exempt list they owe him his salary or they can cut him and get nothing for him. If he is innocent I would let this go as long as it takes to prove my innocence because his image is in the gutter right now. If there is a chance some of the stuff is true he should have settled 3 months ago..

If it's true, no way he could have settled three months ago. First one came forth and wanted 100k. If he paid her, Buzbee would have lined them up for years.

[FreshOutThePack]

Originally Posted by codered

Sounds like if he wants to play this year it’s in his best interests to settle the lawsuits now as the NFL won’t take any chances with the civil suits pending. On top of that it sounds like he would be to busy with court dates to actually play this year even if the league didn’t force him to sit. It’s messed up. Settle so you can play but the doubt will follow you your entire career or clear your name (if he truly is innocent) and most likely miss an entire season. I’m sure this is part of Buzbees strategy.

Just a bit of advice for you, since you are throwing yours around....

If you are innocent of something, you don't admit guilt to it. Ever.

[codered]

Originally Posted by FreshOutThePack

Just a bit of advice for you, since you are throwing yours around....

If you are innocent of something, you don't admit guilt to it. Ever.

Settle down champ. Let the grown ups talk.

I’m not giving anyone any advice, just relaying the information that is already out there. This is what NFL insiders are saying. He’ll likely miss the season if he wants to fight it in court. If he settles the lawsuits before the season he’ll probably play (dependent on the possibility of suspension) but the shadow of doubt will follow him.

I’m firmly in innocent before proven guilty camp and I’ve yet to see any hard evidence that makes me believe he’s guilty at this point. It’s mostly hearsay

[Boo]

He will go on the Commissioners List

[FreshOutThePack]

Originally Posted by codered

Settle down champ. Let the grown ups talk.

I’m not giving anyone any advice, just relaying the information that is already out there. This is what NFL insiders are saying. He’ll likely miss the season if he wants to fight it in court. If he settles the lawsuits before the season he’ll probably play (dependent on the possibility of suspension) but the shadow of doubt will follow him.

I’m firmly in innocent before proven guilty camp and I’ve yet to see any hard evidence that makes me believe he’s guilty at this point. It’s mostly hearsay

Lol your response actually shows your immaturity, big fella.

Season or not, there is no way he should settle, it is basically the no contest of civil court. That is if he truly is innocent, which so far from all I have seen, he is. I don't care what any NFL insider has to say. It is Deshaun that has to wear it for his life, not the "iNsIdErS".

It's obvious you have never been accused of something you never did. I guess you really did it everytime. Wow.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by codered

Settle down champ. Let the grown ups talk.

I’m not giving anyone any advice, just relaying the information that is already out there. This is what NFL insiders are saying. He’ll likely miss the season if he wants to fight it in court. If he settles the lawsuits before the season he’ll probably play (dependent on the possibility of suspension) but the shadow of doubt will follow him.

I’m firmly in innocent before proven guilty camp and I’ve yet to see any hard evidence that makes me believe he’s guilty at this point. It’s mostly hearsay

Is "champ" the female version of "sweetie". I'm trying to think of a situation where these words can be used in conversation and they aren't an obvious degradation. I'm coming up empty. Maybe "sport" is worse ... IDK.

[RedMike]

Originally Posted by FreshOutThePack

Lol your response actually shows your immaturity, big fella.

Season or not, there is no way he should settle, it is basically the no contest of civil court. That is if he truly is innocent, which so far from all I have seen, he is. I don't care what any NFL insider has to say. It is Deshaun that has to wear it for his life, not the "iNsIdErS".

It's obvious you have never been accused of something you never did. I guess you really did it everytime. Wow.

Man - I don't know about you guys, but how many of you guys have millions on the line.

If I was Deshaun , even if I was 100% innocent - I may have to take the damn deal just to hurry and get my life back on track.

I get there is pride and ego but there is also being reasonable and assessing the whole situation and balancing pro and cons and what ultimately is important to him. If he has to pay these people to let them all say nice things about him and put this crap to bed.. even if he is 100% innocent... You have to consider doing it.

Otherwise, this get dragged out in a court where you only need 51% to lose.

[Cavaliercards]

Originally Posted by RedMike

Man - I don't know about you guys, but how many of you guys have millions on the line.

If I was Deshaun , even if I was 100% innocent - I may have to take the damn deal just to hurry and get my life back on track.

I get there is pride and ego but there is also being reasonable and assessing the whole situation and balancing pro and cons and what ultimately is important to him. If he has to pay these people to let them all say nice things about him and put this crap to bed.. even if he is 100% innocent... You have to consider doing it.

Otherwise, this get dragged out in a court where you only need 51% to lose.

Settling still wont get him off the hook with the NFL though, it could still lead to an 8-16 game suspension especially if he was trafficking women.

[Selanne00008]

Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Settling still wont get him off the hook with the NFL though, it could still lead to an 8-16 game suspension especially if he was trafficking women.

Either way he’s facing suspension. It is what it is. AB settled and got suspended.

I’m Def keeping every option open even if it means settling which could be a sign that people look at you like you’re guilty.


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[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by RedMike

Man - I don't know about you guys, but how many of you guys have millions on the line.

If I was Deshaun , even if I was 100% innocent - I may have to take the damn deal just to hurry and get my life back on track.

I get there is pride and ego but there is also being reasonable and assessing the whole situation and balancing pro and cons and what ultimately is important to him. If he has to pay these people to let them all say nice things about him and put this crap to bed.. even if he is 100% innocent... You have to consider doing it.

Otherwise, this get dragged out in a court where you only need 51% to lose.

But where does it stop? I'm sure word would get out real quick that he settled and his phone would be ringing off the hook with more people every week.

[pokerkeith]

If deshaun was 100 percent innocent he would have nothing to worry about and he would have put this stuff to bed real quick. Instead he is another guy who thought he was above the law. I highly doubt he is playing in 2021 and just hope this all resolves by 2022. 2021 was going to be a bad year for the texans even with deshaun. Without him they should clinch the no 1 overall pick and then maybe deshaun gets his wish and is traded to a contending team in 2022 (washington perhaps? maybe miami if tua does not take a big step forward).

[codered]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Is "champ" the female version of "sweetie". I'm trying to think of a situation where these words can be used in conversation and they aren't an obvious degradation. I'm coming up empty. Maybe "sport" is worse ... IDK.

While you could use it when talking to a champion boxer or ufc fighter, I won’t disagree with your assertion for this example.

Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Settling still wont get him off the hook with the NFL though, it could still lead to an 8-16 game suspension especially if he was trafficking women.

Sex Trafficking involves being forced or coerced. Watson and his attorney have already said it was all consensual. Even if he paid for their “services” they would have to prove that it was something they didn’t sign up for and were forced into. If all he did was have paid consensual sex (even if it was with 20+ women) he won’t (and shouldn’t) get more games than Greg Hardy for for beating and threatening to kill his gf. I’m guessing 4 games at the most. However if he did force these women to do something they didn’t want to do and is charged and convicted of sex trafficking he is done for good

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Is "champ" the female version of "sweetie". I'm trying to think of a situation where these words can be used in conversation and they aren't an obvious degradation. I'm coming up empty. Maybe "sport" is worse ... IDK.

I just go with babe.

It’s equally condescending no matter what you identify as, which can be tricky when deciding how to condescend to someone on the interwebz. It just keeps it clean and straight forward.

[BGT Masters]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Is "champ" the female version of "sweetie". I'm trying to think of a situation where these words can be used in conversation and they aren't an obvious degradation. I'm coming up empty. Maybe "sport" is worse ... IDK.

If you were having a conversation with a certain Pro Bowl cornerback I would find it acceptable.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Settling still wont get him off the hook with the NFL though, it could still lead to an 8-16 game suspension especially if he was trafficking women.

He’s facing suspension, 4-6 games minimum based on precedent. If he settles and gets it off the books before next season, that may be all he faces.

Otherwise he may end up on the commissioners list until it gets settled.

[majestik101]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

He’s facing suspension, 4-6 games minimum based on precedent. If he settles and gets it off the books before next season, that may be all he faces.

Otherwise he may end up on the commissioners list until it gets settled.

I say 6-10 games minimum. Either way he's not going to come away unscathed. Heck I wonder how many teams view him as toxic goods already

[armoursave]

I’m just waiting until video comes out. I mean...surely there’s video right?

[TheFrenzy]

Levels of condescension:

- Dude

- Bro

- Einstein/Sherlock

- Sport

- Pal

- Chief

- Champ

- Buddy/Bud

- Kiddo

- Sweetheart

- Boy

[Dbacksbaseball]

Originally Posted by jduds

There is still room to drop. If he is not playing during the start of the season and it is unclear when he will return and where, there will be plenty of downward movement. Once his situation becomes clear in terms of team and suspension length, things will go back up likely, but I’m not convinced either of those will be settled before the season starts.


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Agree with this. I want to jump back in, but no chance.....zero......that this is the floor.

[dbpsooner]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Levels of condescension:

- Dude

- Bro

- Einstein/Sherlock

- Sport

- Pal

- Chief

- Champ

- Buddy/Bud

- Kiddo

- Sweetheart

- Boy

Love this! But you forgot...

- Scooter

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by dbpsooner

Love this! But you forgot...

- Scooter

I think the exception of course is the exclamation “hoo boy I tell you h’what...”

[Dbacksbaseball]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

I think the exception of course is the exclamation “hoo boy I tell you h’what...”

Why did I read this in the exact tone you would expect it to be read

[jw8]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Levels of condescension:

- Dude

- Bro

- Einstein/Sherlock

- Sport

- Pal

- Chief

- Champ

- Buddy/Bud

- Kiddo

- Sweetheart

- Boy

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