Target Online Sales Thread

[Timsterino]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Do you not understand how business works? Walmart is flipping to you from a wholesaler

No they aren’t if I only buy at MSRP. The secondary market is not the same thing. Do you not understand that?

[Hoopscardz83]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Do you not understand how business works? Walmart is flipping to you from a wholesaler

Now your trying to be a troll. Walmart isn't inflating the price.

[Doc Awesome]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Yep, but the bots aren't to blame. The blame is on the market being willing to pay the inflated prices. If $20 walmart boxes could only be sold for $20 on EBay, there would be plenty of availability. But since you, and that other guy, and all the other bot complainers on here would gladly pay $40 to buy a box that is "worth" $80 on the open market, you have the current situation. The card market has gotten too valuable.

The only solution is for Topps to start making stuff that is only worth MSRP. How do they do that? Make a billion different sets and increase print run like they are doing. You can buy as much 2021 Series 1 or 2020 Update at or near MSRP as your heart desires. Just like Archives and probably will be for Bowman Inception or whatever garbage sets they cook up.

But you don't want those. You want Chrome, you want Bowman Draft, you want Sapphire. Well so does everyone else and everyone has collectively decided they are worth alot more than the price they are being sold for by a retailer

You’re making lots of assumptions about the people on here; how the majority of people interact in the hobby. I would have no problem increasing print runs on draft, sapphire, chrome either. I think/hope the majority of the hobby would be fine with that too if it meant more cards would be available. I guess it comes down to who the hobby is catered to. The collectors, or the investors.

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by BBases31

I dislike the "bot people" as much as anyone here. I just don't think they're doing anything wrong. Anywhere you have easy, essentially risk free money to be legally made, you're going to have a scramble between a TON of people to think of the best way to get the piece of that pie. That's capitalism. It's legal and no one is being cheated by what they do. And no, just because you can't buy a box for 1/4 of market value straight from Walmart does not mean you are being cheated.

No one is being cheated by what they do?!?! How is it not cheating when the bots can clear out an entire stock before a normal user can get 1 single order in? That's literally the definition of cheating. An unfair advantage that can't be beat by a normal buyer.

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by Hoopscardz83

So sick of people defending bot people. It's not a real hustle. It's a bunch of tools obsessed with Gary Vee. It's unethical and getting close to becoming illegal. Bot groups keep hitting all areas. At some point the time will come. I'm thinking big picture and not just about cards.

The greed they have will come back to them. They've flourished this year because of people at home and shopping online.

The only ones defending bot people are people that are bots or in the discords groups. Whether they want to admit it or not.

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by BRob1

Target for examples intention is for one person not to check out more than 1 time online, same as that is their intention in store.

They may or may not catch you in the store if you change your clothes 100 times and loop the line, but they’ve clearly stated their policy prohibits that. That’s the same thing as bypassing their security and checking out 100 times online. you are basically saying if they can’t catch you it’s fine to violate the policy.


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Yeah I love it how bad boi cays it's not cheating when the bots get 1000s of orders on 1000s of accounts. Yet any time a normal user on Target.com is lucky enough to get a second order, which has happened to me exactly 1 time this entire year, it's immediately canceled so it can odds are go to a bot instead.

[MFaulkCollector]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

No one is being cheated by what they do?!?! How is it not cheating when the bots can clear out an entire stock before a normal user can get 1 single order in? That's literally the definition of cheating. An unfair advantage that can't be beat by a normal buyer.

They were a normal buyer until they either purchased a top of the line bot or actually built one themselves. Any single person is/was more than able to either learn over time how to develop a program or just purchase one. Do some people have excess money that others dont? Sure....... Are some people phenomenal with computers and/or have degrees in a tech field such that they could build their own? Sure.................. Life isn't necessarily fair, people do the best they can do with what they have.

Based on the sheer amount of money on the table it seems like anyone serious about this would/should do whatever they can to take out a loan and pay the whatever 5,8,10k cost to get the program and fastest internet speed known to man. Between cards, video game consoles, whatever else I can't imagine the return wouldn't pay huge dividends within just 4-5 months

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by MFaulkCollector

They were a normal buyer until they either purchased a top of the line bot or actually built one themselves. Any single person is/was more than able to either learn over time how to develop a program or just purchase one. Do some people have excess money that others dont? Sure....... Are some people phenomenal with computers and/or have degrees in a tech field such that they could build their own? Sure.................. Life isn't necessarily fair, people do the best they can do with what they have.

Based on the sheer amount of money on the table it seems like anyone serious about this would/should do whatever they can to take out a loan and pay the whatever 5,8,10k cost to get the program and fastest internet speed known to man. Between cards, video game consoles, whatever else I can't imagine the return wouldn't pay huge dividends within just 4-5 months

These bots on average were not normal buyers of sports cards. Realistically how many bots user were buying sports cards as a normal user before Covid hit? 1-2% of people in the hobby? I'm sure the discord monitor people are a higher percentage than that.

At the end of FOTL and hobby on Panini store at MSRP people complained that bots were taking it over. In 2+ years, including all the ones people were mad about at the end, there was a total of 1 FOTL or online exclusive I wasn't able to buy as a normal user from Panini store. It was 2017-18 Flawless Basketball FOTL. That product only had 200 boxes. I was even able to buy 2018-19 Flawless FOTL. Since a year ago Im pretty sure there has not been a single card box/pack worth it at MSRP I have been able to buy from Panini store. Not a single one. It's not like Im the only person. The amount of normal users that have been able to buy any of the few boxes or packs Panini store has had for sale at MSRP the last year has gotta be less than 5% of each product. Probably the only hope for normal users like myself, outside of Panini selling 1000s of membership plans to buy cards, is a vigilante to go after the bots.

[mma138]

Originally Posted by J1L

Botters don’t care. When card bubble burst they will move to next item. They aren’t collectors, they are profiteers. Whatever makes money will be botted. Look at gpus.

this is the only thing im going to say . do not support the bot people . alot of us really enjoy the hobby . but is it really worth it to buy 20 dollar blasters for 200.00 ? that is plain crazy ! im done with this hobby until things come back to normal . i will enjoy what i currently have . no way am i spending 200 bucks on a blaster box . certainly not going to spend 1000 bucks for a hobby box of a very basic product . good bye !

[Chicosbailbonds]

It's easy to blame the bots (and its a HUGE problem), but the greed from the public will not change if bots were eliminated. I've seem people go into meijer and clean out the card section within 5 minutes also.

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by Chicosbailbonds

It's easy to blame the bots (and its a HUGE problem), but the greed from the public will not change if bots were eliminated. I've seem people go into meijer and clean out the card section within 5 minutes also.

Kinda hard to compare now when every Target was doing limits, virtually every Meijer, and a good portion of Walmarts. On top of that, I'm sure most Walmarts that everything makes it on to the shelves is a minimum 3 or 4 way split of almost every week under $1,000 worth of sports cards.

[jkampis]

Originally Posted by Chris P

Maybe it's just me but I believe skirting rules like account limits IS unethical..I don't see how it's not. That's not "working harder" "hustling harder...it's finding a way to exploit a fair way for people to get stuff.

Exactly. And he dislikes bot people as much as anyone...yeah, right.

[ewokpelts]

Originally Posted by BBases31

Do you not understand how business works? Walmart is flipping to you from a wholesaler

Wow. You don’t understand retail at all.

[Doc Awesome]

Uhoh. There’s a restock alert at Target: DK is available. However, it says online shipping is not available; can only be picked up at stores....But no stores show they’re stocking it.

[wxguy44]

Originally Posted by Doc Awesome

Uhoh. There’s a restock alert at Target: DK is available. However, it says online shipping is not available; can only be picked up at stores....But no stores show they’re stocking it.

You get that via notification or email?

[Doc Awesome]

Originally Posted by wxguy44

You get that via notification or email?

It says it when you click on the item. “Not available for shipping- in store pickup only”.

[cspaced25]

Originally Posted by Doc Awesome

Uhoh. There’s a restock alert at Target: DK is available. However, it says online shipping is not available; can only be picked up at stores....But no stores show they’re stocking it.

This is interesting. Not in stock at my store for pickup either. Can anyone see it actually in stock for their store for order\pick up??

[wxguy44]

Originally Posted by cspaced25

This is interesting. Not in stock at my store for pickup either. Can anyone see it actually in stock for their store for order\pick up??

Not for DK, but it does for one of the Pokemon packs that used to be available for online for the past several days

[PSA2Pac]

You guys on computer or using the app? I dont see anything on the app

[wxguy44]

Originally Posted by PSA2Pac

You guys on computer or using the app? I dont see anything on the app

desktop

[PSA2Pac]

Originally Posted by wxguy44

desktop

Thanks

Sounds like they're getting ready for a drop. Interesting that it might be in-store pickup

[cj828282]

Well, DK blasters down to $30 on WM as well as BP megas down to $65. And Heritage megas are up for those interested:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Topps-202...Pack/170586550

[BRob1]

There's nothing happening outside the usual. There are always pages up that think there is store inventory somewhere.

[ATeamHasNoName]

Originally Posted by BRob1

There's nothing happening outside the usual. There are always pages up that think there is store inventory somewhere.

Yeah i actually came here to say “Doesn’t look like a surprise drop today” and i start reading about things popping up lol still don’t think anything is gonna happen today…


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[BRob1]

Originally Posted by ATeamHasNoName

Yeah i actually came here to say “Doesn’t look like a surprise drop today” and i start reading about things popping up lol still don’t think anything is gonna happen today…


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Yeah nothing new has "popped up" it looks like the same old products target hasn't bothered closing out on the website. If it thinks there is store inventory somewhere it will show up on site. Much ado about nothing so far.