Lebron vs KD over next 4 years - Page 8

pingbling23 · 06-03-2021, 08:10 PM

Can anyone show me where love averaged 20 or more with the cavs? He also averaged 15 a game on 40% shooting in the playoffs. Love was a good third option (expected to be better) but he wasn’t a superstar before, during, or after playing with Lebron.

kd the sniper · 06-03-2021, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pingbling23

Can anyone show me where love averaged 20 or more with the cavs? He also averaged 15 a game on 40% shooting in the playoffs. Love was a good third option (expected to be better) but he wasn’t a superstar before, during, or after playing with Lebron.

No one can show you, because it never happened

Now, would lebron be where he is now with andrew wiggins and Anthony Bennett??

No way! LeBron stole love from the timberwolves.. All on lebrons command

pingbling23 · 06-03-2021, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kd the sniper

No one can show you, because it never happened

Now, would lebron be where he is now with andrew wiggins and Anthony Bennett??

No way! LeBron stole love from the timberwolves.. All on lebrons command

GoMiamigo claims he did it 4 times. Just trying to make sure I’m not looking at the stats wrong. He most certainly wouldn’t have done anything with Wiggins and Bennett. But if Lebron never leaves the first time the cavs never get to draft multiple first and lottery picks.

kd the sniper · 06-03-2021, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pingbling23

GoMiamigo claims he did it 4 times. Just trying to make sure I’m not looking at the stats wrong. He most certainly wouldn’t have done anything with Wiggins and Bennett. But if Lebron never leaves the first time the cavs never get to draft multiple first and lottery picks.

And lebron would of been stuck in purgatory and never won 2 titles or went to 5, 6, plus straight finals.. Wish he would of joined the timberwolves

pingbling23 · 06-03-2021, 08:47 PM

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And lebron would of been stuck in purgatory and never won 2 titles or went to 5, 6, plus straight finals.. Wish he would of joined the timberwolves

Wish we could have seen kd, Westbrook, harden, and Ibaka stay together.

kd the sniper · 06-03-2021, 08:52 PM

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Wish we could have seen kd, Westbrook, harden, and Ibaka stay together.

Me too... But Kd would of been left holding the bag just like lillard. It's all woulda, coulda, with both players.. We can't change history, but we can argue about it til the wheels fall off!

sportsguyred · 06-03-2021, 10:19 PM

BYE BYE LEBRON.

what a joke. Tatum loses his #2 player and he steps up posting 50, 40, 32 in his last 3 playoff games.

Lebron? Gives up.

#1 MJ

#2 Kobe

#3 Lebron + KD (after KD wins title next 2 years)

pete2345 · 06-03-2021, 10:21 PM

Is this more about card prices or overall career? KD card prices will not reach LeBron levels.Most of the record sales were reached during this bubble that is ending. If I was investing in which players cards will see better returns from there current buy in I would probably choose KD.
As far as who will be regarded as the better player hard to say story is not finished being written. I will say the Nets better win this year. Or it will be looked back on as a massive failure that will fall mainly on Kd's shoulders. I will never consider LeBron a Goat because of the epic Dallas collapse this would be just as bad.

exitmusicblue · 06-03-2021, 10:26 PM

Mmmm... mmmmhahaha... Hahahhhahha.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.
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those who swear Lebron > MJ? Lebron won't even > KD when all is said and done.

Missed me, loves? Enjoy tonight. }:-)

chetb · 06-03-2021, 10:26 PM

Just from a branding perspective, LeBron’s brand will always be stronger than KD’s. Even if LeBron’s run is now finished and KD goes on to do more great things.

It’s about branding and story, and other than MJ you just can’t beat LeBron’s.

ninjacookies · 06-03-2021, 10:29 PM

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Mmmm... mmmmhahaha... Hahahhhahha.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.
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those who swear Lebron > MJ? Lebron won't even > KD when all is said and done.

Missed me, loves? Enjoy tonight. }:-)

The children's party finally dispersed?

I know it's been a rough past 3 years.

Chin up, cupcake.

Kingofkings1281 · 06-03-2021, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by exitmusicblue

Mmmm... mmmmhahaha... Hahahhhahha.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.
"

those who swear Lebron > MJ? Lebron won't even > KD when all is said and done.

Missed me, loves? Enjoy tonight. }:-)

The hate is so strong that even this doofus crawls out of his hole for the first time in months.

exitmusicblue · 06-03-2021, 10:31 PM

Cookiez, sell your imaginary Lebrons and keep building the post count. All's been well here, exceedingly well. : ))) <333. :-* xoxo

Ericc5Bears · 06-03-2021, 10:32 PM

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You're such a complete idiot. They didn't add Durant nor Irving last year. July 2019 != 2020.

Harden cried his way out of Houston 4 months ago. Not 23 months ago.

Either that or this is the greatest imitation of a really stupid Lebron stan ever who doesn't even follow the NBA.

What are you saying lol? Last year the Nets were the 7 seed like you said, KD played 0 games (injured), Harden played 0 games (not on team), Kyrie played 20 games. So that 7 seed added KD, Harden, and an extra 30-40+ games of Kyrie. Seems pretty simple to follow, not sure what you think I got wrong.

exitmusicblue · 06-03-2021, 10:33 PM

Lebron stalls at under 5 rings... just as predicted by the hated EMB years ago.

Think hard about legacy, folks. Real hard. EMB out.

Ericc5Bears · 06-03-2021, 10:35 PM

The KD fans have convinced themselves that Lebron having Kevin Love is equal to KD having James Harden, gotta be one of the most delusional takes I've ever seen on here that somehow multiple people seem to agree with, yikes.

ninjacookies · 06-03-2021, 10:36 PM

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Cookiez, sell your imaginary Lebrons and keep building the post count. All's been well here, exceedingly well. : ))) <333. :-* xoxo

I haven't had that many emojis shot at me since my last myspace hookup.

This is why I luv u.

(welcome back, btw. sorry your Finals prediction went horribly awry. didn't mean you had to leave us. we heart our resident comicboi just as you are (^_^)__/ )

Ericc5Bears · 06-03-2021, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gomiamigo

Kevin Love had 4 20+ ppg seasons in CLE.

His True Shooting % was higher every year from 2015-16 season on in CLE then it was in his last year in MIN. His 3pt % was higher in CLE. His FT% was higher also.

He got better in every facet in CLE, the only thing that changed was his USG% rate as Lebron and Kyrie dominated the ball, dropping from 28.8 to 22 with those guys.

And he was entering his prime at age 26.

So if he got better in every facet and the only thing that changed was his usage rate why has he only averaged 16/9 in the 102 games since Lebron and Kyrie left? His age 30-32 seasons by the way, should be the absolute heart of his prime.

DR Murph · 06-03-2021, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pingbling23

Can anyone show me where love averaged 20 or more with the cavs? He also averaged 15 a game on 40% shooting in the playoffs. Love was a good third option (expected to be better) but he wasn’t a superstar before, during, or after playing with Lebron.

I’d say 26 ppg and 13 rpg in two out of three years preceding the Cavs was pretty solid...

BabaORiley · 06-04-2021, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ericc5Bears

Yeah they were a 7 seed last year then they added #@#@#@#@ing Kevin Durant, James Harden, and Kyrie Irving, cmon now lol

Be honest: you don't watch the NBA, right? I'm going in order of messages missed in this thread and assume you will be rightfully ragged on for the next several messages, but this isn't remotely factually accurate.

Spacemanspif · 06-04-2021, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by pingbling23

Can anyone show me where love averaged 20 or more with the cavs? He also averaged 15 a game on 40% shooting in the playoffs. Love was a good third option (expected to be better) but he wasn’t a superstar before, during, or after playing with Lebron.

2nd team All-NBA in 2012, injured 2013, 2nd team All-NBA again in 2014. I don't know what your definition of "superstar" is, but he was a beast back then, which is why LeBron wanted him

drobfan8 · 06-04-2021, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Ericc5Bears

So if he got better in every facet and the only thing that changed was his usage rate why has he only averaged 16/9 in the 102 games since Lebron and Kyrie left? His age 30-32 seasons by the way, should be the absolute heart of his prime.

LeBron gave him depression.

drobfan8 · 06-04-2021, 04:33 AM

Man.

If you're a LeBron fanatic. It's probably time to go exitmusicblue on us and disappear for a while.

Walk off like LeBron without shaking hands.

I'll stick to my fandom of Tim Duncan over LeBron.

Hoopscardz83 · 06-04-2021, 04:50 AM

I could go on a Lebron tangent on here. I'll keep it short and sweet. Yes hes an ultimate great, and maybe top 5 of all-time. The obsession of Jordan and wanting someone to be him or better has James up there. Social media, and ESPN have fueled it. Magic was better, Kobe was better, and honestly if Bird doesn't get hurt he's better. The media wanted a Jordan, so they tried creating one.

jayjavu · 06-04-2021, 05:08 AM

When it's all said and done, when they are all retired (2026), here are my top 5 rankings in terms of card value (just my personal opinion):

1. MICHAEL JORDAN
T2. LEBRON JAMES
T2. KOBE BRYANT
4. KEVIN DURANT
5. STEPH CURRY

06-04-2021, 04:33 AM	#198
drobfan8 Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 17,862 drobfan8 drobfan8	Man. If you're a LeBron fanatic. It's probably time to go exitmusicblue on us and disappear for a while. Walk off like LeBron without shaking hands. I'll stick to my fandom of Tim Duncan over LeBron. __________________ Wanted, 03/04 Exquisite Base Gold Tim Duncan and 05/06 Exquisite Base Gold /25 Michael Jordan

06-03-2021, 08:10 PM	#176
pingbling23 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 15,971 pingbling23	Can anyone show me where love averaged 20 or more with the cavs? He also averaged 15 a game on 40% shooting in the playoffs. Love was a good third option (expected to be better) but he wasn’t a superstar before, during, or after playing with Lebron.

06-03-2021, 10:19 PM	#182
sportsguyred Banned Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 111	BYE BYE LEBRON. what a joke. Tatum loses his #2 player and he steps up posting 50, 40, 32 in his last 3 playoff games. Lebron? Gives up. #1 MJ #2 Kobe #3 Lebron + KD (after KD wins title next 2 years)

06-03-2021, 10:21 PM	#183
pete2345 Banned Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Birthplace of Michael Jordan home of biggie smalls! Posts: 4,125	Is this more about card prices or overall career? KD card prices will not reach LeBron levels.Most of the record sales were reached during this bubble that is ending. If I was investing in which players cards will see better returns from there current buy in I would probably choose KD. As far as who will be regarded as the better player hard to say story is not finished being written. I will say the Nets better win this year. Or it will be looked back on as a massive failure that will fall mainly on Kd's shoulders. I will never consider LeBron a Goat because of the epic Dallas collapse this would be just as bad.

06-03-2021, 10:26 PM	#184
exitmusicblue Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 14,027	Mmmm... mmmmhahaha... Hahahhhahha.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. " those who swear Lebron > MJ? Lebron won't even > KD when all is said and done. Missed me, loves? Enjoy tonight. }:-)

06-03-2021, 10:26 PM	#185
chetb Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 245	Just from a branding perspective, LeBron’s brand will always be stronger than KD’s. Even if LeBron’s run is now finished and KD goes on to do more great things. It’s about branding and story, and other than MJ you just can’t beat LeBron’s.

06-03-2021, 10:31 PM	#188
exitmusicblue Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 14,027	Cookiez, sell your imaginary Lebrons and keep building the post count. All's been well here, exceedingly well. : ))) <333. :-* xoxo

06-03-2021, 10:33 PM	#190
exitmusicblue Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 14,027	Lebron stalls at under 5 rings... just as predicted by the hated EMB years ago. Think hard about legacy, folks. Real hard. EMB out.

06-03-2021, 10:35 PM	#191
Ericc5Bears Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 1,269	The KD fans have convinced themselves that Lebron having Kevin Love is equal to KD having James Harden, gotta be one of the most delusional takes I've ever seen on here that somehow multiple people seem to agree with, yikes.

06-04-2021, 04:50 AM	#199
Hoopscardz83 Banned Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 754	I could go on a Lebron tangent on here. I'll keep it short and sweet. Yes hes an ultimate great, and maybe top 5 of all-time. The obsession of Jordan and wanting someone to be him or better has James up there. Social media, and ESPN have fueled it. Magic was better, Kobe was better, and honestly if Bird doesn't get hurt he's better. The media wanted a Jordan, so they tried creating one.

06-04-2021, 05:08 AM	#200
jayjavu Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 78	When it's all said and done, when they are all retired (2026), here are my top 5 rankings in terms of card value (just my personal opinion): 1. MICHAEL JORDAN T2. LEBRON JAMES T2. KOBE BRYANT 4. KEVIN DURANT 5. STEPH CURRY