**Official Luka Doncic Thread** - Page 857

bloodwings19 · 06-06-2021, 07:09 PM

Porzingis and Hardaway Jr 1 for 14 in 3 PT shot made killed them. You don't hit 3s, you are going back on defense. Not a Mavs fan, but like Lukamania. Now to find quick sells.

minnesotachill · 06-06-2021, 07:10 PM

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oldgoldy97 · 06-06-2021, 07:23 PM

Mavs need to target CJ somehow.

Dnic · 06-06-2021, 07:24 PM

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Mavs need to target CJ somehow.

They need to target Beal, Collins even Lonzo would be nice

Rowdy1854 · 06-06-2021, 07:25 PM

Definitely will be interested in where his values settle. I sold everything not numbered in the last month or so as I think the winners in the market correction will lie with numbered cards. Hopefully not wrong as most cards sold were worth much more than these. These were the keepers

dkcardman · 06-06-2021, 07:40 PM

Luka is the best player in the league. What Luka did in this series is simply mindboggling. Clips are a very good team and Luka carried a bench squad 7 games against them. Against a team that did everything they could to shut him down. And he is 22 years old.

Mavs front office needs to get this man some help.

adam711 · 06-06-2021, 08:03 PM

Much like the Celtics, it is time to change things up in the front office & coaching staff. They’ve squandered already Luka’s last two years playing at an elite level on a rookie salary. They absolutely need to go in to “win now” mode for next year to show Luka that they are competent in putting together a championship unit.

Prospectorsadvantage · 06-06-2021, 08:05 PM

This reminds of me lebron on the cavs the first few years. Awful and needs help.

KhalDrogo · 06-06-2021, 08:06 PM

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Much like the Celtics, it is time to change things up in the front office & coaching staff. They’ve squandered already Luka’s last two years playing at an elite level on a rookie salary. They absolutely need to go in to “win now” mode for next year to show Luka that they are competent in putting together a championship unit.

What's sad is that this year was their idea of a "win now" roster. Well done front office!

adam711 · 06-06-2021, 08:13 PM

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What's sad is that this year was their idea of a "win now" roster. Well done front office!

Yeah, I guess maybe it was for the best long term that they ended up losing this series so change will (or at least should) happen. If they made it into the 2nd round or further it would’ve justified keeping things as is with a “successful” season.

Mavs probably win in 5 if Carlisle didn’t sub out Luka so soon in game 3, and refuse to put him back in as the Clippers run went on. That sequence should be enough to cost him his job.

nxkard · 06-06-2021, 08:13 PM

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Luka is the best player in the league. What Luka did in this series is simply mindboggling. Clips are a very good team and Luka carried a bench squad 7 games against them. Against a team that did everything they could to shut him down. And he is 22 years old.

Mavs front office needs to get this man some help.

Exactly this..... It feels a lot like Mahomes' superbowl loss to the buccaneers..... I somehow walked away MORE impressed. Any other quarterback would have been sacked 10 times and thrown 4 interceptions. Replace Luka with just about any player in the league and the mavs get swept.

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KhalDrogo · 06-06-2021, 08:23 PM

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Mavs probably win in 5 if Carlisle didn’t sub out Luka so soon in game 3, and refuse to put him back in as the Clippers run went on. That sequence should be enough to cost him his job.

Agree on both accounts. Highly doubt Rick gets the axe though. 10 years, no playoff series wins. Why not stretch that to 11?

Donkaylove · 06-06-2021, 08:54 PM

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Yeah, I guess maybe it was for the best long term that they ended up losing this series so change will (or at least should) happen. If they made it into the 2nd round or further it would’ve justified keeping things as is with a “successful” season.

Mavs probably win in 5 if Carlisle didn’t sub out Luka so soon in game 3, and refuse to put him back in as the Clippers run went on. That sequence should be enough to cost him his job.

Not gonna happen, same reasons in portland, dame vs?, no free agents want to come to dallas, you are stuck in mediocrity, and more players would want to team with dame , fer sure. Everybody has money, but its a players league and they have the upper hand. So, you then have to overpay for typical bench players and hope they gel.

nman84 · 06-06-2021, 09:16 PM

Two blue velocity PSA 9’s just ended at 500 and 471. Those haven’t dipped below 550 since April. My wallet welcomes the dip with open arms.

Chris P · 06-06-2021, 09:19 PM

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Agree on both accounts. Highly doubt Rick gets the axe though. 10 years, no playoff series wins. Why not stretch that to 11?

I think cuban's already confirmed rick's coming back

GeechQuest · 06-06-2021, 09:24 PM

Going to be tough sledding for the Mavs until they shed that KP contract. Seemed great at the time but just hasn’t worked out.

jmcca170 · 06-06-2021, 09:28 PM

Very limited in what the team can do to improve the roster around him—-and frankly, after the last two years, does any one really trust the current decision makers to be the ones to do it?

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bkcardcollector · 06-06-2021, 09:33 PM

i dunno everyone saying the mavs supporting cast is awful - yeah pretty bad - but i still am not sold on luka when you are the entire offense. It is difficult to say what he would do on a good offense - probably good obviously - but would he be able to step it up on the d and not take stupid shots/turn overs. I hope and believe yes but difficult to gage without it. Steph made his way there... and the warriors made it work for him - and yes role players need to step up like klay and dray.

nxkard · 06-06-2021, 09:39 PM

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i dunno everyone saying the mavs supporting cast is awful - yeah pretty bad - but i still am not sold on luka when you are the entire offense. It is difficult to say what he would do on a good offense - probably good obviously - but would he be able to step it up on the d and not take stupid shots/turn overs. I hope and believe yes but difficult to gage without it. Steph made his way there... and the warriors made it work for him - and yes role players need to step up like klay and dray.

Klay and draymond aren't role players... Swap them in their primes for kp and Richardson and you think the mavs lose to this clipper team?

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KhalDrogo · 06-06-2021, 09:39 PM

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i dunno everyone saying the mavs supporting cast is awful - yeah pretty bad - but i still am not sold on luka when you are the entire offense. It is difficult to say what he would do on a good offense - probably good obviously - but would he be able to step it up on the d and not take stupid shots/turn overs. I hope and believe yes but difficult to gage without it. Steph made his way there... and the warriors made it work for him - and yes role players need to step up like klay and dray.

Ah yes, perfection is needed. The guy has the highest usage rate in the league. Of course it feels like he takes too many bad shots and has too many turnovers. He has the ball in his hand more than anyone else in the league. Nobody else on that offense can create for themselves. He has to do it for them.

jmcca170 · 06-06-2021, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bkcardcollector

i dunno everyone saying the mavs supporting cast is awful - yeah pretty bad - but i still am not sold on luka when you are the entire offense. It is difficult to say what he would do on a good offense - probably good obviously - but would he be able to step it up on the d and not take stupid shots/turn overs. I hope and believe yes but difficult to gage without it. Steph made his way there... and the warriors made it work for him - and yes role players need to step up like klay and dray.

You say it like guys like Klay and Dray are in abundant supply… Klay was an elite defender with top 5 all-time shooting ability and Dray’s the leagues best Swiss Army knife since ?????

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nxkard · 06-06-2021, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bkcardcollector

i dunno everyone saying the mavs supporting cast is awful - yeah pretty bad - but i still am not sold on luka when you are the entire offense. It is difficult to say what he would do on a good offense - probably good obviously - but would he be able to step it up on the d and not take stupid shots/turn overs. I hope and believe yes but difficult to gage without it. Steph made his way there... and the warriors made it work for him - and yes role players need to step up like klay and dray.

I also don't think you can fault Luka for "being the entire offense".... Firstly, most of his bad shots are late in the clock after another player panics and passes him the ball with 3 seconds remaining to create something. He is also a facilitator, not just a scorer.... You can't villify him because his teammates miss the wide open chances he enables.

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bkcardcollector · 06-06-2021, 09:51 PM

jeez im not blaming the guy just saying he hasnt had a chance on the mavs with a good roster...

as well klay and dray were role players when they came in to the league that blossomed around curry. obvs not talking they are role players now coming from a huge klay supporter.

bkcardcollector · 06-06-2021, 09:52 PM

relax fanbois f

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bkcardcollector Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Raptors Nation Posts: 7,870 bk_card_collector bk_card_collector	jeez im not blaming the guy just saying he hasnt had a chance on the mavs with a good roster... as well klay and dray were role players when they came in to the league that blossomed around curry. obvs not talking they are role players now coming from a huge klay supporter. __________________ Got Tyler Ennis?

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bloodwings19 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,007	Porzingis and Hardaway Jr 1 for 14 in 3 PT shot made killed them. You don't hit 3s, you are going back on defense. Not a Mavs fan, but like Lukamania. Now to find quick sells.

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dkcardman Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Buford, Ga Posts: 2,532 dkcardman dkcardman	Luka is the best player in the league. What Luka did in this series is simply mindboggling. Clips are a very good team and Luka carried a bench squad 7 games against them. Against a team that did everything they could to shut him down. And he is 22 years old. Mavs front office needs to get this man some help.

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adam711 Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 731	Much like the Celtics, it is time to change things up in the front office & coaching staff. They’ve squandered already Luka’s last two years playing at an elite level on a rookie salary. They absolutely need to go in to “win now” mode for next year to show Luka that they are competent in putting together a championship unit.

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