How do you convince someone to sell you something they've lost money on? - Page 7

IlliniBear · 06-09-2021, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jcmel323

This happened to me especially with close collectors. They enjoy the feeling of having something you want. This close collector (lets call him "LY") know im huge on this basketball player and he was behind my back buying them, to the point he created another ebay and outbid me.

Cards increased 2-4x times+ in less than a year. Sellers saw comps and started to list them way high. To the point i cant even buy them.

One day an honest friend from the hobby told me everything. That "LY" collector reached him offering some cards and saw all the low serial numbers and 1/1s.

At the end i stopped collecting that player. Sold and traded everything. Took a huge profit and moved on.
In less than a year cards tanked. A 1/1 printing plate that used to sell for $90-150 now sell for less that $15

LY is pissed, still think im collecting him and is trying so bad to sell them

Advice: Pay the 75 or dissapear. If you keep insisting, he will get happy to keep rubbing you the card to the point he might start buying some 1/1s

I’m just curious about the player.

PuddleMonkey · 06-09-2021, 08:19 PM

Is there a link to this card? I only see a $195 one. I'm just sadistic enough to buy a $75 card and cut it in half.

here2havefun · 06-09-2021, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pewe

Might not be worth his time to pack it up, get it to the post office, record the accounting of the sale, etc... he’s thinking “Jeesh, I’m not willing to go through the hassle of completing a sale for less than $75”

FYI my hassle level is roughly $50 (unless I’m doing a friend a favor), so this is coming from a place of understanding

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This, I'm personally in this boat. I know you think it's a $10 card or whatev, but I would never go below, say, $40. Anything less isn't worth my time, I'd rather just hold it.

rman112 · 06-09-2021, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PuddleMonkey

Is there a link to this card? I only see a $195 one. I'm just sadistic enough to buy a $75 card and cut it in half.

I think that's it. Seller listed it today.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/16490559318...EAAOSwSgxgwSI1

cking · 06-09-2021, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PuddleMonkey

I'm just sadistic enough to buy a $75 card and cut it in half.

LOL.....Make sure you record the cutting. Then post the video in this thread

I will kick in $20

PuddleMonkey · 06-10-2021, 01:48 AM

Offer submitted..

edgeusaf1 · 06-10-2021, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PDCCollectibles

If you want it that bad, pay the $75, grab it and move on....

This.

SaveMeTheGum · 06-10-2021, 05:47 AM

$75 for a card you want really bad? Why don't you just buy it?

It's never a seller's job to make sure you get the best deal. Plus you've probably overplayed your hand as to how bad you want it. I have plenty of cards that I don't care if I sell or not - but if I do it will be at my price. That's just life.

goldeneye2131 · 06-10-2021, 05:50 AM

how do we know this guy didn't pack-pull it (and therefore no loss other than the cost of grading)?

I can't speak for the budget of others, but to me $75 is cheap. I opened this thread thinking it was a $400+ card (or at least that the card in question was listed for at least that much.)

monkeymcgee · 06-10-2021, 06:25 AM

I offered $80 in solidarity with the seller and he countered at $179 -- 4 competing offers BTW

MiamiMarlinsFan · 06-10-2021, 07:32 AM

It went up for sale on eBay the same day this thread was started?

base set · 06-10-2021, 07:35 AM

I don’t know the answer to this question. I have had trouble trying to buy a 1/1 of a player with negative career WAR. But that is with a seller who repeatedly tries to auction it and no matter what anyone bids, then shills it higher. Then 3-6 months later he repeats the process.

It does seem pretty obvious that this thread is not the way to do it.

therealcjc33 · 06-10-2021, 07:38 AM

The answer is relatively easy.

Either pay his asking price or don't. There are people out there that don't want to take any kind of loss on anything.

You're not going to change his mind.

comicbooksgo · 06-10-2021, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mattglet

Someone who was going to send me money, please redirect it to this person instead.

Yes! Please pm me for address. Any funds received will go toward buying this card. It will become my favorite coaster.

sigmachi · 06-10-2021, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

It went up for sale on eBay the same day this thread was started?

Yeah I figure the $75 ship has long sailed. That card probably isn't leaving the seller's hand for less than $175 now.

premium1981 · 06-10-2021, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sigmachi

Yeah I figure the $75 ship has long sailed. That card probably isn't leaving the seller's hand for less than $175 now.

No kidding. I think this thread had the reverse intended effects. That seller is a happy camper right now, and in an even stronger position than he was before. Oops

Boo · 06-10-2021, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by premium1981

No kidding. I think this thread had the reverse intended effects. That seller is a happy camper right now, and in an even stronger position than he was before. Oops

Plot twist, the OP is the seller and has used the BO mob to make the price rise!

nowiamsad · 06-10-2021, 09:00 AM

I can't believe you made this thread over $75

mattglet · 06-10-2021, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by premium1981

No kidding. I think this thread had the reverse intended effects. That seller is a happy camper right now, and in an even stronger position than he was before. Oops

Yeah, you win some you lose some. Clearly I underestimated the jamokes of BO which was my mistake.

If someone is miserable enough and has enough spite just to jack up a price - or even purchase the card outright - knock yourself out. I'll be in line to laugh at you.

mattglet · 06-10-2021, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Boo

Plot twist, the OP is the seller and has used the BO mob to make the price rise!

The only question is... will it work a second time?

notfast · 06-10-2021, 09:03 AM

7 pages about a card that was $75.

mattglet · 06-10-2021, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by notfast

7 pages about a card that was $75.

Going to be 8 soon. The suspense is killing me.

asujbl · 06-10-2021, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by nowiamsad

I can't believe you made this thread over $75

In reality it's not even over $75...

It's over whatever he was willing to pay and $75

So probably a thread over like $25

premium1981 · 06-10-2021, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mattglet

I'll be in line to laugh at you.

But........will you still be laughing in 3 years, or making another thread about the same card that you still don't own?

ScooterMcRibs · 06-10-2021, 09:09 AM

I suggest to bring in a professional negotiator and personal attorney, never get involved personally. Negotiators have done this before and know what they are doing on deals like this, they will do tens of hours or research beforehand and work to make a deal that benefits both you and the seller. You may be looking at low five figures in cost but it's totally worth it to save $75. Also I suggest to start a few more threads and waste everyone's time some more because $75 is totally a life changing amount of money that you can't afford to spend on whim.

06-10-2021, 05:47 AM	#158
SaveMeTheGum Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NH --> CA --> SC Posts: 15,628 Cardboard_Dynamite CardboardDynamite	$75 for a card you want really bad? Why don't you just buy it? It's never a seller's job to make sure you get the best deal. Plus you've probably overplayed your hand as to how bad you want it. I have plenty of cards that I don't care if I sell or not - but if I do it will be at my price. That's just life. __________________ Pay fast. Ship fast. Deal with people honestly. IG: CardboardDynamite

06-10-2021, 05:50 AM	#159
goldeneye2131 Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 567	How do you convince someone to sell you something they've lost money on? how do we know this guy didn't pack-pull it (and therefore no loss other than the cost of grading)? I can't speak for the budget of others, but to me $75 is cheap. I opened this thread thinking it was a $400+ card (or at least that the card in question was listed for at least that much.) Last edited by goldeneye2131; 06-10-2021 at 07:58 AM.

06-09-2021, 08:19 PM	#152
PuddleMonkey Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 1,821	Is there a link to this card? I only see a $195 one. I'm just sadistic enough to buy a $75 card and cut it in half.

06-10-2021, 01:48 AM	#156
PuddleMonkey Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 1,821	Offer submitted..

06-10-2021, 06:25 AM	#160
monkeymcgee Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: VA Posts: 10,974	I offered $80 in solidarity with the seller and he countered at $179 -- 4 competing offers BTW

06-10-2021, 07:32 AM	#161
MiamiMarlinsFan Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Florida Posts: 10,369	It went up for sale on eBay the same day this thread was started?

06-10-2021, 07:35 AM	#162
base set Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: NW Michigan Posts: 8,756	I don’t know the answer to this question. I have had trouble trying to buy a 1/1 of a player with negative career WAR. But that is with a seller who repeatedly tries to auction it and no matter what anyone bids, then shills it higher. Then 3-6 months later he repeats the process. It does seem pretty obvious that this thread is not the way to do it.

06-10-2021, 07:38 AM	#163
therealcjc33 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 1,285	The answer is relatively easy. Either pay his asking price or don't. There are people out there that don't want to take any kind of loss on anything. You're not going to change his mind.

06-10-2021, 09:00 AM	#168
nowiamsad Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: CA Posts: 487	I can't believe you made this thread over $75

06-10-2021, 09:03 AM	#171
notfast Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: MD Posts: 3,856	7 pages about a card that was $75.

06-10-2021, 09:09 AM	#175
ScooterMcRibs Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: BAY AREA, CA, USA Posts: 409	I suggest to bring in a professional negotiator and personal attorney, never get involved personally. Negotiators have done this before and know what they are doing on deals like this, they will do tens of hours or research beforehand and work to make a deal that benefits both you and the seller. You may be looking at low five figures in cost but it's totally worth it to save $75. Also I suggest to start a few more threads and waste everyone's time some more because $75 is totally a life changing amount of money that you can't afford to spend on whim.