Now that College athletes can make money, will we see college sets with autos now?

[darin2200]

Now that College athletes can make money, will we see college sets with autos from current athletes now?
With everything I am hearing about the different ways college athletes are now allowed to make money, I see no reason why they couldn't get paid to sign autos for the card companies. Panini already has licensing deals with many colleges, I definitely see them using current players with autos, I can see it now "First College Card" to go with 1st minor league prospect card, and Call up cards, and Rookie cards.
I would be willing to bet that Brian Gray (Leaf) already has an autograph deal with some college athletes.
Has anyone heard anything about college cards coming now? I looked and didn't see any threads.

New Update:
Found Forbes Article on this very subject
https://www.forbes.com/sites/nickdiu...h=2f3837e2da59

Update # 2:
I see I was right about Leaf, on Brian Gray's twitter feed, he has filed a Trademark on ARC Logo (Amateur Rookie Card), and has deals in place already but waiting for colleges approval.
https://twitter.com/leafceo?ref_src=...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

You wouldn’t be able to use the school logos or anything. That would require a separate deal, at least.

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

You wouldn’t be able to use the school logos or anything. That would require a separate deal, at least.

So college versions of Leaf cards. Yeh...thats big NO for me.

[LCM1223]

Poopnini Collegiate Pajama Party yayyyy

[jduds]

Originally Posted by darin2200

Now that College athletes can make money, will we see college sets with autos from current athletes now?
With everything I am hearing about the different ways college athletes are now allowed to make money, I see no reason why they couldn't get paid to sign autos for the card companies. Panini already has licensing deals with many colleges, I definitely see them using current players with autos, I can see it now "First College Card" to go with 1st minor league prospect card, and Call up cards, and Rookie cards.
I would be willing to bet that Brian Gray (Leaf) already has an autograph deal with some college athletes.
Has anyone heard anything about college cards coming now? I looked and didn't see any threads.

I am sure this will happen soon. For one, it is an easy way to get around licenses. Topps can go sign all the top college football and basketball players and shove them in Ginter if they want. I'm sure there will be an arms race amongst the companies to sign players. It'd be nice to see Upper Deck take advantage of this to get back in the game beyond Hockey and Golf.

[vwnut13]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

You wouldn’t be able to use the school logos or anything. That would require a separate deal, at least.

Panini makes ton of college football/basketball/baseball cards with college logos.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by vwnut13

Panini makes ton of college football/basketball/baseball cards with college logos.

I was just saying that it’s a separate deal. Panini’s current college cards are with players who are just out of college, correct? I’m not 100% sure the school would want to be a part of cards with current college students. But who knows, from what I can tell, these colleges do like money.

[Technochocolate]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

I was just saying that it’s a separate deal. Panini’s current college cards are with players who are just out of college, correct? I’m not 100% sure the school would want to be a part of cards with current college students. But who knows, from what I can tell, these colleges do like money.

Panini has a deal with a collegiate licensing company that gives them the right to use all the school logos that they need to use.

Whoever at Panini had the foresight to lock that licensing up a few years ago is about to get the biggest raise ever.

[darin2200]

Thanks for the additional insight and responses, this whole change for college athletes selling their name and likeness if nothing else will be interesting to watch the ripple effects, including in the sports trading card market. Think Trevor Lawrence one or two years ago, having college logo cards with on-card autos, I'm not making any judgement on how well it will be received, just that it will be very interesting to watch.

[SDcardguy24]

Leaf tweeted about their new "Amateur Rookie Card" logo so I'm sure there's something planned.

https://twitter.com/Leaf_Cards/statu...60946265350145

Could be interesting to prospect on some active college players kinda like some people already do with the Leaf Army All American cards. And speaking of those, wonder if players can now get paid for signing those?

[tonedef2oo8]

Leaf would figure out a way to screw It up.

[sakibomb523]

Do Collegiate Athletes (or even HS) get paid when they sign Team USA cards for Panini?

[JWBlue]

I don't believe this changes anything. Collectors put a premium on players on professional teams.

[ucLAkers]

I would love to see Upper Deck get an exclusive deal with the entire package….the return of Exquisite would be awesome!

[ewokpelts]

Originally Posted by Technochocolate

Panini has a deal with a collegiate licensing company that gives them the right to use all the school logos that they need to use.

Whoever at Panini had the foresight to lock that licensing up a few years ago is about to get the biggest raise ever.

Considering draft pick sets have been big business for over 20 years, panini acquiring the exclusive was a no brainer.

[ewokpelts]

Originally Posted by darin2200

Thanks for the additional insight and responses, this whole change for college athletes selling their name and likeness if nothing else will be interesting to watch the ripple effects, including in the sports trading card market. Think Trevor Lawrence one or two years ago, having college logo cards with on-card autos, I'm not making any judgement on how well it will be received, just that it will be very interesting to watch.

It’s a major first step for these kids to not be exploited as much by schools and the industry. Because this isn’t just about endorsements or autographs. It’s also about a ncaa golfer working at a country club as a golf pro in the summer. Or a tennis player charging for lessons.

The end game is compensation and health care/workers comp.

[GMRide27]

Originally Posted by tonedef2oo8

Leaf would figure out a way to screw It up.

Shots fired!!!

[jduds]

Originally Posted by ucLAkers

I would love to see Upper Deck get an exclusive deal with the entire package….the return of Exquisite would be awesome!

College Football or Basketball Exquisite would be great. Upper Deck is definitely the one I want to take advantage of this as I sorely miss them.

[jhssketchcards]

How would a college set be valuable? Wouldn’t it be one more ring lower in prospecting than Bowman? I could see Panini do a Prizm Draft Baseball or Contenders Draft Baseball, but to me they would have already done them given they have the NCAA license. Let’s face it there are way to many players in baseball that don’t amount to anything than in other sports. There is a reason Panini hasn’t done these.


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[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

You wouldn’t be able to use the school logos or anything. That would require a separate deal, at least.

Schools are allowing players to use the school logos under the new N.I.L. agreement.

[jduds]

Originally Posted by jhssketchcards

How would a college set be valuable? Wouldn’t it be one more ring lower in prospecting than Bowman? I could see Panini do a Prizm Draft Baseball or Contenders Draft Baseball, but to me they would have already done them given they have the NCAA license. Let’s face it there are way to many players in baseball that don’t amount to anything than in other sports. There is a reason Panini hasn’t done these.


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I'm not sure if baseball will get done quickly, but there would certainly be a demand for basketball and football. As for long term value, who knows? Currently, the college clad cards aren't worth as much, but if a college product becomes established and players perform well I'd imagine demand would pick up. You can't tell me a Tom Brady U Michigan Patch Auto wouldn't have some serious demand. I don't think there is a real comparable product currently. This type of product might not ever be as popular as true rookies, but I can definitely see a large number of collectors chasing them. I could see baseball getting done on a much smaller basis. Maybe just sign the projected first round guys and put them in an insert set in Bowman or something.

[jhssketchcards]

Originally Posted by jduds

I'm not sure if baseball will get done quickly, but there would certainly be a demand for basketball and football. As for long term value, who knows? Currently, the college clad cards aren't worth as much, but if a college product becomes established and players perform well I'd imagine demand would pick up. You can't tell me a Tom Brady U Michigan Patch Auto wouldn't have some serious demand. I don't think there is a real comparable product currently. This type of product might not ever be as popular as true rookies, but I can definitely see a large number of collectors chasing them. I could see baseball getting done on a much smaller basis. Maybe just sign the projected first round guys and put them in an insert set in Bowman or something.

Good points, but the Panini Draft sets are already popular, but why haven’t they done a baseball version? I think it’s because there are way too many misses in baseball. Yes a Brady Michigan Auto/Relic would fetch a nice price, but that’s because he’s NFL SB GOAT Tom Brady, not low draft pick Tom Brady. What I’m saying is established pro stars college stuff sells well only if they are an elite star, not because they are currently in college. But if people want to collect it more power to them if it comes.


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[sportzluvr1]

Its gonna be a blood bath...with green water

[jduds]

Originally Posted by jhssketchcards

Good points, but the Panini Draft sets are already popular, but why haven’t they done a baseball version? I think it’s because there are way too many misses in baseball. Yes a Brady Michigan Auto/Relic would fetch a nice price, but that’s because he’s NFL SB GOAT Tom Brady, not low draft pick Tom Brady. What I’m saying is established pro stars college stuff sells well only if they are an elite star, not because they are currently in college. But if people want to collect it more power to them if it comes.


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Yeah, Brady was an extreme example, but if there is a set that just has half the starting QBs of the P5, the top 25 WRs, 25 RBs, and a few other star players it will have no problem garnering interest even if 95% never pan out in the pros. People love to speculate on young players. In any given year there are normally at least 3-4 college players that can carry a product. I think you are right that baseball would be a tough sell though. I also think they could get creative and do something like an SEC set that could be multisport and get baseball in that way. Basketball is a bit of a wildcard with the ending of the NBA age/school requirements and players going straight to the G-league or overseas to get paid. I'm very curious how that landscape will change with college guys getting to make money.

[ucLAkers]

Originally Posted by coachnip13

Schools are allowing players to use the school logos under the new N.I.L. agreement.

I thought that was not permitted?

From the article:

As all parties work to interpret the NCAA’s new rules, one thing is clear, you will not see institutional or conference marks on cards. Athletes are unallowed to partner with their institutions for NIL deals, nor are they permitted to use their logos. As for the rest of the regulations, the trading card companies are proceeding with caution. Leaf CEO Brian Gray wants to make sure they do not jeopardize any student-athlete’s eligibility in the process.