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[Bosox34]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

In my opinion though the interpretation is that if a player went over the limits for an extended then they are dropped and are up for grabs. So in some minds this may be interpreted as a rule change because we are saying in this case Hayes should not just be put up for a chance grab

He’s still put up for grabs, we are all just debating whether that should be now or later since the rules don’t specify.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Bosox34

He’s still put up for grabs, we are all just debating whether that should be now or later since the rules don’t specify.

But in this case he would be put up for a random claim or a race to claim. I believe some were wanting him to be available later only in the draft. Not just a pick up

[Hollywood42]

I mean whenever any non-prospect is dropped, they go to waivers, right? But yes it wasn't 100% spelled out in the OP to make that inference-proof and that's my fault

Originally Posted by Bosox34

I think we all agree enough time has passed for Hayes to be added so he should be removed from Yanks minor league roster (this is going by current league rules):

However, the rules do NOT state whether Hayes is to be put as a FA, Waiver Claim, or SUSP until next draft. Because the rules do not state that, I think a simple vote should be enough to decide what to do. It’s really not that difficult in this situation and I am not quite sure who blew this up to be changing the rules, but it isn’t. The current rule was not specific enough to the situation and therefore needs further explanation before coming to a decision. I spent this morning reading the OP very carefully and did not find where it states the status of the prospect being dropped.

[Bosox34]

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

I mean whenever any non-prospect is dropped, they go to waivers, right? But yes it wasn't 100% spelled out in the OP to make that inference-proof and that's my fault

I wouldn’t say it’s anyone’s fault. Since it wasn’t clearly outlined, I think it justifies the debate and vote on what to do. Nothing is really lost suspending its until after the season. He’s a FA currently in the player pool so he technically could be added right now so we must decide how to go about this for the future. Waiting until the off-season to clearly define this rule and go about it is not a bad option

[Bosox34]

Just want to make sure it doesn’t get lost in the middle of the Hayes talk, but

Jordan Groshans is going to Bshea in our deal

[Dbacksbaseball]

Originally Posted by Bosox34

I wouldn’t say it’s anyone’s fault. Since it wasn’t clearly outlined, I think it justifies the debate and vote on what to do. Nothing is really lost suspending its until after the season. He’s a FA currently in the player pool so he technically could be added right now so we must decide how to go about this for the future. Waiting until the off-season to clearly define this rule and go about it is not a bad option

Actually a really good point. He is currently not on a roster, so he doesn’t drop to waivers. It would technically be a free for all which can’t happen.

No one outside of bosox commented on my random him off to a bottom 6 team idea so I guess that is going to far down a worm hole.

[Ray27Ray52]

Originally Posted by Dbacksbaseball

Actually a really good point. He is currently not on a roster, so he doesn’t drop to waivers. It would technically be a free for all which can’t happen.

No one outside of bosox commented on my random him off to a bottom 6 team idea so I guess that is going to far down a worm hole.

Yeah, that's why like 6 pages ago Woody put his claim in because Hayes can't be put on waivers on ESPN. But here we are still talking about it.

[Hollywood42]

Alright. We need to make a decision on this so we can move on and be done with this, and at this point everyone has long since said their piece so it feels like it's up to me to take it all into consideration and announce what's happening. I've gone back and forth on what to do in the last few days, but this is what I think does the best at respecting our rules that were already in place while also being the most equitable, and I think and hope everyone can be reasonably content with this. So here goes

Hayes is dropped from Yanks' prospect roster. That much everyone should be able to agree on. He's now long over limits and has not been addressed despite various forms and attempts at getting in touch with Yanks. So, he's dropped. That fulfills the rule as it's written now so we're abiding by what was already in place there

In terms of what happens next, we will make Hayes ineligible to be added by any team until next offseason's draft. That's the most equitable way I can see of doing things without getting overly complex. In the offseason we can talk if we want that to be how we handle things going forward as well, if not addressing a prospect over limits is an instant replace regardless of if they're still active otherwise, and so on

Hopefully this is as satisfactory as we can get for the time being and we can get back to just competing. I do appreciate everyone's input on all this

[Hollywood42]

[Bosox34]

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

Alright. We need to make a decision on this so we can move on and be done with this, and at this point everyone has long since said their piece so it feels like it's up to me to take it all into consideration and announce what's happening. I've gone back and forth on what to do in the last few days, but this is what I think does the best at respecting our rules that were already in place while also being the most equitable, and I think and hope everyone can be reasonably content with this. So here goes

Hayes is dropped from Yanks' prospect roster. That much everyone should be able to agree on. He's now long over limits and has not been addressed despite various forms and attempts at getting in touch with Yanks. So, he's dropped. That fulfills the rule as it's written now so we're abiding by what was already in place there

In terms of what happens next, we will make Hayes ineligible to be added by any team until next offseason's draft. That's the most equitable way I can see of doing things without getting overly complex. In the offseason we can talk if we want that to be how we handle things going forward as well, if not addressing a prospect over limits is an instant replace regardless of if they're still active otherwise, and so on

Hopefully this is as satisfactory as we can get for the time being and we can get back to just competing. I do appreciate everyone's input on all this

I agree with this. It’s a difficult decision to make, but I think for the best of the league this is the way to go about it

[Ray27Ray52]

This is complete and utter bs!!!!

(sike IDGAF, i'm just glad it's over)

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

Alright. We need to make a decision on this so we can move on and be done with this, and at this point everyone has long since said their piece so it feels like it's up to me to take it all into consideration and announce what's happening. I've gone back and forth on what to do in the last few days, but this is what I think does the best at respecting our rules that were already in place while also being the most equitable, and I think and hope everyone can be reasonably content with this. So here goes

Hayes is dropped from Yanks' prospect roster. That much everyone should be able to agree on. He's now long over limits and has not been addressed despite various forms and attempts at getting in touch with Yanks. So, he's dropped. That fulfills the rule as it's written now so we're abiding by what was already in place there

In terms of what happens next, we will make Hayes ineligible to be added by any team until next offseason's draft. That's the most equitable way I can see of doing things without getting overly complex. In the offseason we can talk if we want that to be how we handle things going forward as well, if not addressing a prospect over limits is an instant replace regardless of if they're still active otherwise, and so on

Hopefully this is as satisfactory as we can get for the time being and we can get back to just competing. I do appreciate everyone's input on all this

I think in this situation this is best for everyone. Glad that we can move on. Obviously I still think in the off season this needs sorted out.

[todderfield]

our names should be put in random.org and he goes to that person by random at end of season

[Dbacksbaseball]

Originally Posted by todderfield

our names should be put in random.org and he goes to that person by random at end of season

Wasn’t the worst idea for the bottom of the league considering we were arguing following a bad ‘rule’ in season and then changing it right after the season….after executing it.

Good smart choice here Hollywood.

[Hollywood42]

Updated service time in the prospect sheet again. Only new guy over limits is Alex's Trevor Larnach

[bshea]

Looking to get some prospects/youth.

Looking to trade Castellanos, Stanton, Lynn and Stroman.
All can have immediate high impact this year.

Also willing to move others.

[Hollywood42]

Todder and I in a dead heat. I've come back from down like 70 points in the past 3 days and currently in a 5 point lead, but he has Disco Desclafani and Caleb Smith going head to head, so he'll probably end up with the win. Bummer he made a good call to bench Neris today, those -14 would have come in handy rn

Interestingly, he also elected not to start Gerrit Cole which paid off as he put up -1

[todderfield]

The benching of Cole was espn screw up, set lineup on app, thought I hit save. Neris is permenantly on the bench lol

[todderfield]

It’s funny bc I was in rebuild mode weeks ago, made some moves, acquired Cole and went on this winning streak.

[Hollywood42]

Anyone up for power rankings? Based off ability to compete this year only, not future focused at all this time.

1. Bosox (10-3)- The emergence of Carlos Rodon and Trevor Rogers is emblematic of the whole team this year. It doesn't seem like Bosox can do any wrong
Team MVP- Carlos Rodon. From undrafted to a top 15 SP. Pretty crazy what he's done so far
MVP honorable mention- Jacob deGrom. Boring answer, but the dude is just unbelievable
Team goat- Luis Castillo, I guess. There's hardly any players on this team that have bombed in relation to expectations this year. Castillo was dreadful for the first few month, but turned it around lately posting 5 QS in his last 6 outings

2. Hollywood (10-3)- Slipped out of first place this week, but things have really come together for my team this year. I'm a little surprised given how little draft capital I had, was thinking next year was the time to shine, but I felt great about the keepers I entered the year with and it's paid off so far
Team MVP- Shohei Ohtani. If he stays healthy, there's no more valuable asset in the league. Currently he has over 50 more points than the next top scoring player
MVP honorable mention- Sandy Alcantara. Guy has taken another step forward this year and has produced like a leading arm rather than a just mid tier guy
Team goat- Stephen Strasburg. I'm not saying this isn't exactly what I expected. But it's such a facepalm nonetheless

3. Corner (9-4)- Just an all around balanced and solid team. Many guys are starting to get up there in age, but Corner should still has a few years left before needing decide which way to go next
Team MVP- Max Scherzer. For as good as the team is, there's not a lot of massive standouts, so I'll go with the cop out answer for an elite SP just doing what he was supposed to
MVP honorable mention- Max Muncy. An NL leading .416 OBP has made him a top 25 overall bat with positional flexibility
Team goat- Well, by year's end it's probably gonna be Trevor Bauer.....

4. Yanks (7-6)- The offense always amazes me. How did this guy get Tatis, Acuna, Freeman, Yelich, Albies, and more?
Team MVP- Freddy Peralta. Best round 9 draft pick ever. 10th overall SP right now
MVP honorable mention- Taijuan Walker. Has been a risky yet upside guy for awhile, and this year it's paying off. 2.44 ERA to this point
Team goat- Kebr..... too soon. We'll go with Blake Snell whose 1.43 ERA at home is offset but a 9.09 ERA on the road, balancing out to a 5-ERA overall and just over 100 points on the year almost halfway through the season

5. Dbacks (7-6)- One of the better offenses in the league, and shouldn't have a problem making the playoffs
Team MVP- Jesse Winker. Slumping lately, but still has a MVP caliber season thus far
MVP honorable mention- Kyle Gibson. I still have no idea how Gibby has a sub-2 ERA
Team goat- Keston Hiura. We're getting picky here, there's not really any bigger pieces here that have been a huge disappointment, so we'll go with a guy that's been dreadful even if he wasn't needed to be a main piece on the team

6. Todder (8-5)- Started the season 2-5 but has gone on a 6 week win streak since. Has the firepower to knock off anybody on any given week, as last week showed
Team MVP- Marcus Semien. Currently the 6th overall bat and leaving his down 2020 far behind him
MVP honorable mention- Chris Bassit. Went 9th overall in the draft, but I don't think anyone was expecting this much out of him. Currently just outside the top 10 pitchers on the year
Team goat- Anthony Rendon. Has been starting to get back on track, but has had a very pedestrian year overall

7. Bshea (5-8)- There's a lot of good pieces here, but injuries have probably wrecked this shot at this season.
Team MVP- Brandon Woodruff. Took yet another step forward this year, currently a top 5 SP
MVP honorable mention- Nick Castellanos. Another Reds OF putting together a MVP caliber season
Team goat- Eloy Jimenez. Dude needs a shock collar for whenever he gets within 15 feet of a wall

8. Lyle (5-8)- The offense is a little spotty, but Chris has hit on a bunch of different SPs this year, including Kikuchi, Ray, and Eovaldi
Team MVP- Cedric Mullins. Started undrafted and now is quietly slashing .318/.385/.547 as the 6th overall OF
MVP honorable mention- Jarred Walsh. Another guy coming out of nowhere and having a huge year, hitting .280 with 20 homers
Team goat- Brandon Lowe. Has completely fallen off of his 19/20 output and been a real bummer

9. Silver (5-8)- Has some good pieces but hasn't gotten many good breaks this year. A strong draft next year could help the team to the playoffs
Team MVP- Vladimir Guerrero Jr. We're halfway through the season and many players would envy his .336/.438/.671 with 27 homers over a full year. Top overall bat after Ohtani
MVP honorable mention- Alex Manoah. Looks legit so far and will be a big help in turning things around
Team goat- Mookie Betts. There's a bunch of guys having a less productive season, but not many that also have his pedigree

10. Ray (4-9)- Not quite there yet, but there's the makings of a potential juggernaut. Good collection of guys that just need some more time
Team MVP- Joe Musgrove. Has taken a big step forward this year, now just needs the consistency
MVP honorable mention- Dylan Cease. Could have gone either way heading into the season, but he's had a lot more good than bad, big step for him
Team goat- Andrew Vaughn. YouWereTheChosenOne.gif

11. Pcarlson (4-9)- Combo of down years and injuries have made 2021 not too much fun
Team MVP- Jonathan Schoop. Guy is absolutely mashing right now
MVP honorable mention- Luis Garcia. Hadn't heard of him before he started rattling off 20 point start after 20 point start
Team goat- Dinelson Lamet. I expected this much. But it's frustrating seeing that talent in that body

12. Alex (4-9)- Needs some more time to make the team his own and build it back up again
Team MVP- Kevin Gausman. No debate about this one, he has absolutely taken off this year
MVP honorable mention- Pablo Lopez. Marlins are quietly assembling a pretty nice pitching staff
Team goat- Cody Bellinger. He's been injured a lot but also hasn't done much of anything when healthy. Less than 50 points halfway through the year

[silverandblack]

Originally Posted by bshea

Looking to get some prospects/youth.

Looking to trade Castellanos, Stanton, Lynn and Stroman.
All can have immediate high impact this year.

Also willing to move others.

I’d have some interest in Lynn. Let me know what you like on my team.

[Ray27Ray52]

I'm coming for you all. Just wait. The future is almost here.

[pcarlson05]

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

Anyone up for power rankings? Based off ability to compete this year only, not future focused at all this time.

1. Bosox (10-3)- The emergence of Carlos Rodon and Trevor Rogers is emblematic of the whole team this year. It doesn't seem like Bosox can do any wrong
Team MVP- Carlos Rodon. From undrafted to a top 15 SP. Pretty crazy what he's done so far
MVP honorable mention- Jacob deGrom. Boring answer, but the dude is just unbelievable
Team goat- Luis Castillo, I guess. There's hardly any players on this team that have bombed in relation to expectations this year. Castillo was dreadful for the first few month, but turned it around lately posting 5 QS in his last 6 outings

2. Hollywood (10-3)- Slipped out of first place this week, but things have really come together for my team this year. I'm a little surprised given how little draft capital I had, was thinking next year was the time to shine, but I felt great about the keepers I entered the year with and it's paid off so far
Team MVP- Shohei Ohtani. If he stays healthy, there's no more valuable asset in the league. Currently he has over 50 more points than the next top scoring player
MVP honorable mention- Sandy Alcantara. Guy has taken another step forward this year and has produced like a leading arm rather than a just mid tier guy
Team goat- Stephen Strasburg. I'm not saying this isn't exactly what I expected. But it's such a facepalm nonetheless

3. Corner (9-4)- Just an all around balanced and solid team. Many guys are starting to get up there in age, but Corner should still has a few years left before needing decide which way to go next
Team MVP- Max Scherzer. For as good as the team is, there's not a lot of massive standouts, so I'll go with the cop out answer for an elite SP just doing what he was supposed to
MVP honorable mention- Max Muncy. An NL leading .416 OBP has made him a top 25 overall bat with positional flexibility
Team goat- Well, by year's end it's probably gonna be Trevor Bauer.....

4. Yanks (7-6)- The offense always amazes me. How did this guy get Tatis, Acuna, Freeman, Yelich, Albies, and more?
Team MVP- Freddy Peralta. Best round 9 draft pick ever. 10th overall SP right now
MVP honorable mention- Taijuan Walker. Has been a risky yet upside guy for awhile, and this year it's paying off. 2.44 ERA to this point
Team goat- Kebr..... too soon. We'll go with Blake Snell whose 1.43 ERA at home is offset but a 9.09 ERA on the road, balancing out to a 5-ERA overall and just over 100 points on the year almost halfway through the season

5. Dbacks (7-6)- One of the better offenses in the league, and shouldn't have a problem making the playoffs
Team MVP- Jesse Winker. Slumping lately, but still has a MVP caliber season thus far
MVP honorable mention- Kyle Gibson. I still have no idea how Gibby has a sub-2 ERA
Team goat- Keston Hiura. We're getting picky here, there's not really any bigger pieces here that have been a huge disappointment, so we'll go with a guy that's been dreadful even if he wasn't needed to be a main piece on the team

6. Todder (8-5)- Started the season 2-5 but has gone on a 6 week win streak since. Has the firepower to knock off anybody on any given week, as last week showed
Team MVP- Marcus Semien. Currently the 6th overall bat and leaving his down 2020 far behind him
MVP honorable mention- Chris Bassit. Went 9th overall in the draft, but I don't think anyone was expecting this much out of him. Currently just outside the top 10 pitchers on the year
Team goat- Anthony Rendon. Has been starting to get back on track, but has had a very pedestrian year overall

7. Bshea (5-8)- There's a lot of good pieces here, but injuries have probably wrecked this shot at this season.
Team MVP- Brandon Woodruff. Took yet another step forward this year, currently a top 5 SP
MVP honorable mention- Nick Castellanos. Another Reds OF putting together a MVP caliber season
Team goat- Eloy Jimenez. Dude needs a shock collar for whenever he gets within 15 feet of a wall

8. Lyle (5-8)- The offense is a little spotty, but Chris has hit on a bunch of different SPs this year, including Kikuchi, Ray, and Eovaldi
Team MVP- Cedric Mullins. Started undrafted and now is quietly slashing .318/.385/.547 as the 6th overall OF
MVP honorable mention- Jarred Walsh. Another guy coming out of nowhere and having a huge year, hitting .280 with 20 homers
Team goat- Brandon Lowe. Has completely fallen off of his 19/20 output and been a real bummer

9. Silver (5-8)- Has some good pieces but hasn't gotten many good breaks this year. A strong draft next year could help the team to the playoffs
Team MVP- Vladimir Guerrero Jr. We're halfway through the season and many players would envy his .336/.438/.671 with 27 homers over a full year. Top overall bat after Ohtani
MVP honorable mention- Alex Manoah. Looks legit so far and will be a big help in turning things around
Team goat- Mookie Betts. There's a bunch of guys having a less productive season, but not many that also have his pedigree

10. Ray (4-9)- Not quite there yet, but there's the makings of a potential juggernaut. Good collection of guys that just need some more time
Team MVP- Joe Musgrove. Has taken a big step forward this year, now just needs the consistency
MVP honorable mention- Dylan Cease. Could have gone either way heading into the season, but he's had a lot more good than bad, big step for him
Team goat- Andrew Vaughn. YouWereTheChosenOne.gif

11. Pcarlson (4-9)- Combo of down years and injuries have made 2021 not too much fun
Team MVP- Jonathan Schoop. Guy is absolutely mashing right now
MVP honorable mention- Luis Garcia. Hadn't heard of him before he started rattling off 20 point start after 20 point start
Team goat- Dinelson Lamet. I expected this much. But it's frustrating seeing that talent in that body

12. Alex (4-9)- Needs some more time to make the team his own and build it back up again
Team MVP- Kevin Gausman. No debate about this one, he has absolutely taken off this year
MVP honorable mention- Pablo Lopez. Marlins are quietly assembling a pretty nice pitching staff
Team goat- Cody Bellinger. He's been injured a lot but also hasn't done much of anything when healthy. Less than 50 points halfway through the year

Just FYI, my record is 5-8, not 4-9

[Bosox34]

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

Anyone up for power rankings? Based off ability to compete this year only, not future focused at all this time.

1. Bosox (10-3)- The emergence of Carlos Rodon and Trevor Rogers is emblematic of the whole team this year. It doesn't seem like Bosox can do any wrong
Team MVP- Carlos Rodon. From undrafted to a top 15 SP. Pretty crazy what he's done so far
MVP honorable mention- Jacob deGrom. Boring answer, but the dude is just unbelievable
Team goat- Luis Castillo, I guess. There's hardly any players on this team that have bombed in relation to expectations this year. Castillo was dreadful for the first few month, but turned it around lately posting 5 QS in his last 6 outings

Rodon has definitely been my MVP. Without him, not sure I would be in first given the injuries I have had this season. Just goes to show that FA pickups and waiver wire claims can seriously impact your team

[yanksfan0134]

Hey guys. Just wanted to apologize for being MIA. My password was compromised and was reset automatically and the email I had no access to the email associated with this account. Just finally getting back on after a long Hutus, so I truly do apologize.