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Old 07-23-2021, 01:26 PM   #176
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I guess I'll need to be change my user name soon enough. So offensive!
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Old 07-23-2021, 01:27 PM   #177
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I sit on 141, 121, and 508 respectively

Come buy me a beer and we will hash it out

I can’t convince you over Blowout
Might take you up on that and no problem on the suds.

End of the day, we are on the same page, both Cleveland fans wanting to see a damn championship before our time is up.
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Old 07-23-2021, 01:27 PM   #178
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I sit on 141, 121, and 508 respectively

Come buy me a beer and we will hash it out

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This will be ya'll after that beer...

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Old 07-23-2021, 01:30 PM   #179
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This will be ya'll after that beer...

I need way more beers. I’m a professional drinker.
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Old 07-23-2021, 01:35 PM   #180
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Baseball is classy
Basketball is in the middle
Football is trash

That’s what I’m getting
Facepaint and costumes. You don't really need to "get" anything.
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Old 07-23-2021, 01:38 PM   #181
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Facepaint and costumes. You don't really need to "get" anything.
I don’t think you know how many grown men dressed up as Indians
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Old 07-23-2021, 01:39 PM   #182
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They matched the syllables and cadence, perfect rebrand.
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Old 07-23-2021, 01:47 PM   #183
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They matched the syllables and cadence, perfect rebrand.
Yeah thats subtle highlight as well.
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Old 07-23-2021, 01:55 PM   #184
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I'm offended.
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Old 07-23-2021, 02:01 PM   #185
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A Reddit user predicted this over 10 months ago... insane!

Reddit Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Cleveland/c...eland_indians/

Behance Gallery with Concept Mockups: https://www.behance.net/gallery/101622239/CLE-Guardians

His mock-ups are incredible. This is what they should be.
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Old 07-23-2021, 02:03 PM   #186
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His mock-ups are incredible. This is what they should be.
It is possible that they reached out to him, but his price was too high. They can't just take his stuff and use it after all.

More likely though is that the pr firm they hired for the rebrand wanted to bill more for their own crap.
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Old 07-23-2021, 02:17 PM   #187
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Baseball is classy
Basketball is in the middle
Football is trash

That’s what I’m getting
As far as Browns fans go... nail on the head
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Old 07-23-2021, 02:23 PM   #188
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Yep.
I like it, or maybe Cleveland Swarm
Ooh, I like that one
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Old 07-23-2021, 02:40 PM   #189
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It is possible that they reached out to him, but his price was too high. They can't just take his stuff and use it after all.

More likely though is that the pr firm they hired for the rebrand wanted to bill more for their own crap.
You might be right, but someone with a brain should swallow their pride and negotiate with that guy. Every single thing he did was better, and by a significant amount.

Whatever it would cost to buy him out would be made up for in merchandise sales within 48 hours.
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Old 07-23-2021, 02:42 PM   #190
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I guess I'll need to be change my user name soon enough. So offensive!
The Braves name is fine. It's the stupid Tomahawk Chop thing that is degrading.

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Old 07-23-2021, 02:46 PM   #191
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No Cleveland fan will stop watching the team, but it is a change and a dynamic shift in childhood dreams.

If this team ever wins a WS it won't be as the Indians. Lots of "Indians win the Series" radio calls that we have waited a lifetime for dashed.

There will be no John Adams in the left bleachers with the true heartbeat of the team.

Fans were the real "Tribe" that you hung out with. If you can't remember the the theme song of "Tribe 85" then you don't get the heartbeat of Cleveland.

Cleveland loved the Cavs winning as a final championship for the city, but the damn heartbeat has been the Tribe. Not Cavs, Not Browns (that heart ripped out by Modell), but the Tribe.

So give those of us that actually know the heartbeat a chance to adjust to this. This pacemaker will take some getting used to.
If it helps, they probably won't win a WS no matter what the team name is.
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Old 07-23-2021, 02:51 PM   #192
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As a fan that didnt want to see the name change. I can appreciate the new name and the ties to the city and everything that goes with it. I am glad that this phase is finished and we can move on.
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Old 07-23-2021, 02:57 PM   #193
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I have to say, I've been waiting for this day for a long time. It's very entertaining. In 2021 everyone has opinions about what is offensive, and what isn't offensive, and it's amazing the exact moral certainty that everyone seems to have on the topics.

I admit I haven't read every post on here, but what I haven't seen here (or elsewhere) is any single person asking what Indians - or Native Americans if you will - actually think of this change. They give their moral certainty from their own bubble without trying on someone else's shoes, or even wondering if there is a viable and reasonable alternative view point.

I suppose this is the part where I should admit that I'm a direct descendent of this guy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tecumseh
He's a pretty famous Ohioan, if you didn't know.
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Old 07-23-2021, 03:01 PM   #194
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I have to say, I've been waiting for this day for a long time. It's very entertaining. In 2021 everyone has opinions about what is offensive, and what isn't offensive, and it's amazing the exact moral certainty that everyone seems to have on the topics.

I admit I haven't read every post on here, but what I haven't seen here (or elsewhere) is any single person asking what Indians - or Native Americans if you will - actually think of this change. They give their moral certainty from their own bubble without trying on someone else's shoes, or even wondering if there is a viable and reasonable alternative view point.

I suppose this is the part where I should admit that I'm a direct descendent of this guy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tecumseh
He's a pretty famous Ohioan, if you didn't know.
You should probably read the thread

Because your post is kind of ridiculous

And it’s been talked about before
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Old 07-23-2021, 03:37 PM   #195
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Well, looks like we won't be friends.
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Old 07-23-2021, 03:37 PM   #196
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Well, looks like we won't be friends.
Agreed
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Old 07-23-2021, 03:41 PM   #197
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Old 07-23-2021, 03:42 PM   #198
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The Braves name is fine. It's the stupid Tomahawk Chop thing this degrading.
Stupid? Watch your mouth! It's the greatest fan chant in all of sports.
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Old 07-23-2021, 03:51 PM   #199
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I heard this on a radio show this morning - it was tongue and cheek - funny nonetheless:

Definition of a Guardian:

1.) a defender, protector, or keeper.

2.) a person who looks after and is legally responsible for someone who is unable to manage their own affairs, especially an incompetent or disabled person or a child whose parents have died.

3.) the superior of a Franciscan convent.

Should Indians fans....err Guardian fans be worried about triggering decedents of the Franciscan Convent???
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Old 07-23-2021, 03:55 PM   #200
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I have to say, I've been waiting for this day for a long time. It's very entertaining. In 2021 everyone has opinions about what is offensive, and what isn't offensive, and it's amazing the exact moral certainty that everyone seems to have on the topics.

I admit I haven't read every post on here, but what I haven't seen here (or elsewhere) is any single person asking what Indians - or Native Americans if you will - actually think of this change. They give their moral certainty from their own bubble without trying on someone else's shoes, or even wondering if there is a viable and reasonable alternative view point.

I suppose this is the part where I should admit that I'm a direct descendent of this guy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tecumseh
He's a pretty famous Ohioan, if you didn't know.
Mainly because this thread hasn't really been about whether "Indians" is offensive. It's been about whether or not people like the new name.
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