The Unofficial 2021 Summer Transfer Rumors/Done Deals Thread - Page 10

kellmuff · 08-08-2021, 04:08 PM

If Lukaku can score 20 league goals, Chelsea walk it. Curious to see how he gets on. Think it'll make Werner flourish too.

edwinx1903 · 08-08-2021, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by YayNJ

Having to sell your young players because you have mis-spent and acted above your station for a few decades. If that's what they need to do, then that's what they should do.

Barcelona have raided and taken advantage of other clubs for years.

Pedri's market value is less than Lukaku's. They wouldn't be getting much to help resolve their debt and they would be losing a young player with worlds of potential at a time when they need players like him. If they need to eventually sell him, then develop him a bit more and sell him when his market value has increased so you at least can get a big fee but even then selling their young players to keep older folks with massive wages is a horrendous idea.

LittleJimmies · 08-08-2021, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kellmuff

If Lukaku can score 20 league goals, Chelsea walk it. Curious to see how he gets on. Think it'll make Werner flourish too.

No idea about him flourishing, but taking the ball off Werner's foot in finishing situations will help Chelsea a ton. Googled "Timo Werner terrible misses" and this video perfectly sums up just how bad Werner was last year.

https://youtu.be/9tei3X-Jr7o

YayNJ · 08-08-2021, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by edwinx1903

Pedri's market value is less than Lukaku's. They wouldn't be getting much to help resolve their debt and they would be losing a young player with worlds of potential at a time when they need players like him. If they need to eventually sell him, then develop him a bit more and sell him when his market value has increased so you at least can get a big fee but even then selling their young players to keep older folks with massive wages is a horrendous idea.

Barcelona can't shift their ageing players, because their contracts are absolutely ludicrous.

They can't afford to terminate their contracts, nobody wants to sign them on frees because the agent fees and wages would be scandalous. Griezmann on £750,000 a week for example. It's beautiful. Fati and Dembele are sicknotes, then they are stuck with a geriatric Pique, and captain average players like Pjanic. They have to lower that wage bill somehow, and nobody is going to play for free.

Firpo has already gone, they have started to get rid of the fringe and youth in De La Fuente, Trincao, Todibo.. Puig will probably be next, maybe even Dest.

It's not long until some names have to be sacrificed.

Long may they burn.

edwinx1903 · 08-08-2021, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by YayNJ

Barcelona can't shift their ageing players, because their contracts are absolutely ludicrous.

They can't afford to terminate their contracts, nobody wants to sign them on frees because the agent fees and wages would be scandalous. Griezmann on £750,000 a week for example. It's beautiful. Fati and Dembele are sicknotes, then they are stuck with a geriatric Pique, and captain average players like Pjanic. They have to lower that wage bill somehow, and nobody is going to play for free.

Firpo has already gone, they have started to get rid of the fringe and youth in De La Fuente, Trincao, Todibo.. Puig will probably be next, maybe even Dest.

It's not long until some names have to be sacrificed.

Long may they burn.

Again, they don't need to unload the young players yet, much less the players they eventually want to build the club around. Pedri and Fati are the two they won't let go. Puig I can see them letting go on loan as Koeman doesn't seem to rely on him as much at the moment. There was talks about Bayern wanting Dest but those rumors got shot down so it seems they see him as a player they will build as Alba's replacement.

Coutinho, Umtiti and Pjanic are players they are trying to get rid of. Coutinho can be considered a flop when you add in the transfer fee. They're trying to unload him but regardless of the fee they get if they can unload him, it's going to be a loss. Umtiti is always injured and has been hard to unload. Pjanic is being stubborn and refusing to go as he already turned down a return to Juve or Roma. He seems like he's going to ride the bench for his salary until his contract expires

Say what you want about Piqué but he's their best CB by far. Umtiti has not been good when healthy and he's always injured. Lenglet has not been good. Mingueza and Araújo are still young but are starting to take more important rolls in the clubs backline. Mingueza is a La Masia product so it's good for them to promote him.

Laporta said in his press conference they already have a plan on how they will reduce their wages and will be able to register all of the new signees they got as free agents. He said without Messi and his huge salary, it will be easier to reach their goal.

Griezmann is the player they are going to build the club around now that Messi is gone and SPORT has already been pushing the partnership with Memphis to Culé's.

edwinx1903 · 08-08-2021, 10:15 PM

I missed the friendly but am hearing Umtiti and Pjanic got whistled during their presentation. The other day it was Griezmann who had fans waiting outside of the Camp Nou who were shouting at him when he arrived that he was responsible for Messi leaving.

It's going to suck for Barcelona if they allow fans back this season and they don't get SPORT to sell Culé's on the Griezmann and Memphis partnership they have been trying to push. I remember when the Griezmann to Barça rumors began, Frente Atlético and several fans there turned on him at the Metropolitano and began whistling at him during a game and he began crying and Simeone and Godín who was the captain at the time had to tell them to stop.

YayNJ · 08-09-2021, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by edwinx1903

I missed the friendly but am hearing Umtiti and Pjanic got whistled during their presentation. The other day it was Griezmann who had fans waiting outside of the Camp Nou who were shouting at him when he arrived that he was responsible for Messi leaving.

It's going to suck for Barcelona if they allow fans back this season and they don't get SPORT to sell Culé's on the Griezmann and Memphis partnership they have been trying to push. I remember when the Griezmann to Barça rumors began, Frente Atlético and several fans there turned on him at the Metropolitano and began whistling at him during a game and he began crying and Simeone and Godín who was the captain at the time had to tell them to stop.

Today on the Kardashians.....

fadster · 08-09-2021, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by YayNJ

Today on the Kardashians.....

Also Aguero out for 10 weeks with a "calf injury"

meanwhile on Housewives of Bavaria Hills...
"Bayern Munich sporting director Hasan Salihamidzic has confirmed the club are looking into the possibility of signing Erling Haaland from Borussia Dortmund"

YayNJ · 08-09-2021, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by fadster

Also Aguero out for 10 weeks with a "calf injury"

meanwhile on Housewives of Bavaria Hills...
"Bayern Munich sporting director Hasan Salihamidzic has confirmed the club are looking into the possibility of signing Erling Haaland from Borussia Dortmund"

Aye, magic how his injury went from 4 weeks to 10 weeks over night

mfw13 · 08-09-2021, 11:56 AM

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Aye, magic how his injury went from 4 weeks to 10 weeks over night

His interested in playing for Barcelona decreased significantly once it was revealed that his buddy Messi was moving to PSG.

That's the only reason Aguero chose Barcelona in the first place....

YayNJ · 08-09-2021, 05:10 PM

One for the yanks, Josh Sargent has joined Norwich on a four year contract.

Relegation beckons.

BiggNuttz · 08-09-2021, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by YayNJ

One for the yanks, Josh Sargent has joined Norwich on a four year contract.

Relegation beckons.

Relegation for Norwich, Josh Sargent's card prices, or both?

Prospectorsadvantage · 08-10-2021, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by YayNJ

So are Real Madrid. Lets not pretend they don't want the super league for the same desperate reasons Barcelona do.

Both clubs are vile, both cheats, both corrupt, both aided by the state.

Lol. Then you look at PSG who has convinced UEFA and France to waive FFP for the interim so they can buy Messi. Perez is right, a league is needed to make the teams equal and to take back revenue.

Uefa is corrupt. Even a lunatic like you ought to know that. Enjoy the ESL when it comes. Because it will.

There’s one clear thing. The two biggest clubs reside in La Liga. Pep can spend a billion and he still won’t win a CL. Perhaps PSG will take CL replicas from Madrid for Mbappe.

YayNJ · 08-10-2021, 06:11 AM

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. Perez is right, a league is needed to make the teams equal and to take back revenue.

YayNJ · 08-10-2021, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by edwinx1903

Again, they don't need to unload the young players yet, much less the players they eventually want to build the club around.

Looks like Ilaix Moriba the next one out at Barcelona.

edwinx1903 · 08-10-2021, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by YayNJ

Looks like Ilaix Moriba the next one out at Barcelona.

Not surprised. The club wanted to keep him but he wants to go.

Just saw a journalist from Barcelona explaining Barça's salary table is €600M excluding Messi. Meanwhile PSG's salary table was €234.6M before Messi, Gigi Donna, Gini Wij, Hakimi and Ramos. After those signings, they are nearing €400M.

Before you blame COVID for Barça's mess, blame Bartomeu first.

With that said, I look forward to the new season kicking off on Friday. We're still awaiting our back up striker signing before the window closes. It was going to be Rafa Mir from Wolves who was great at Huesca last season but the club put on the breaks and are now looking at Vlahović from Fiorentina. Whoever it will be, will be necessary as we need a quality backup striker that can drop back and defend and finish to give Suárez a rest.

Am still waiting to see what happens with Saúl as well. He was linked with a move to several clubs but those talks seemed to have stalled and he may be staying.

Simeone even called Messi himself to see if he would join us for a season but he already had his sights set on Paris. Yes, this seems bizarre but it was confirmed.

YayNJ · 08-11-2021, 09:21 AM

PSG now having to sell upto 10 FIRST TEAM players to accommodate Messi on a free transfer - this after Barcelona Football Club have literally been torn in half to accommodate him. (Ok, and some corruption and terrible management spanning decades)

You just have to ask - is it really, truly worth it? Reports that Barcelona still owe Messi in the region of $50m in Loyalty payments too.

I'm proud to be a "legacy" fan if this is the future that these scummy clubs want.

fadster · 08-11-2021, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by YayNJ

PSG now having to sell upto 10 FIRST TEAM players to accommodate Messi on a free transfer - this after Barcelona Football Club have literally been torn in half to accommodate him. (Ok, and some corruption and terrible management spanning decades)

You just have to ask - is it really, truly worth it? Reports that Barcelona still owe Messi in the region of $50m in Loyalty payments too.

I'm proud to be a "legacy" fan if this is the future that these scummy clubs want.

FWIW the original journalist is a bit annoyed at the aggregators twisting the original story. The original story from his piece on Sunday said that PSG were open to offers on 10 players, mostly squad players. Of the 10 Gueye and Diallo were the only two that started more than 25 games across all competitions last season (out of 57 played), plus Icardi who is probably the highest profile but only had 19 starts.

Elsewhere in the story it has mentioned PSG are going to do a Bayern and ask Pogba to run down his contract at Man Utd so he can then join on a free.

https://twitter.com/AdamCrafton_/sta...48926610227203

YayNJ · 08-11-2021, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by fadster

FWIW the original journalist is a bit annoyed at the aggregators twisting the original story. The original story from his piece on Sunday said that PSG were open to offers on 10 players, mostly squad players. Of the 10 Gueye and Diallo were the only two that started more than 25 games across all competitions last season (out of 57 played), plus Icardi who is probably the highest profile but only had 19 starts.

Elsewhere in the story it has mentioned PSG are going to do a Bayern and ask Pogba to run down his contract at Man Utd so he can then join on a free.

https://twitter.com/AdamCrafton_/sta...48926610227203

The BBC peddling clickbait, it's the end of days

fadster · 08-11-2021, 11:20 AM

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The BBC peddling clickbait, it's the end of days

yeah the way they do it as a gossip page is a bit cheeky. They can engage in second / third hand clickbait transfer gossip whilst still be able to wash theirs hands of any responsibility and blame any inaccuracy on someone else.

edwinx1903 · 08-11-2021, 03:56 PM

I don't recall the details but I know PSG face a ban of some kind for some financial violations which I'm guessing are FFP related based on all the transfers but I honestly don't recall all the details. I know they were saying PSG has a three year span to win the CL before the ban.

Crazy seeing Madridistas and Culé's cry foul when PSG goes nuts in the transfer after the Florentino Perez Galácticos.

fadster · 08-13-2021, 03:31 AM

Latest silly season rumour are that Mbappe will let his contract expire next season and move to Real Madrid on a free. At the same time Ronaldo will do the same and then move to PSG on a free, to play alongside Messi. I can see the first one happening but not the second unless a serious paycut is involved.

kellmuff · 08-13-2021, 08:13 PM

Would be great to see Messi and Ronaldo in the same time at the tail end of their careers. Imagine Messi play making for him?

Chags · 08-13-2021, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by YayNJ

Barcelona can't shift their ageing players, because their contracts are absolutely ludicrous.

They can't afford to terminate their contracts, nobody wants to sign them on frees because the agent fees and wages would be scandalous. Griezmann on £750,000 a week for example. It's beautiful. Fati and Dembele are sicknotes, then they are stuck with a geriatric Pique, and captain average players like Pjanic. They have to lower that wage bill somehow, and nobody is going to play for free.

Firpo has already gone, they have started to get rid of the fringe and youth in De La Fuente, Trincao, Todibo.. Puig will probably be next, maybe even Dest.

It's not long until some names have to be sacrificed.

Long may they burn.

You're talking out of your ass mate. Puig has never been in Koeman's plans, would not be news if he was sold. Firpo barely registered minutes last season, he did not impress, with Emerson being bought for cheap its no surprise he was sold either. Ilaix Moriba is being sold (most likely) because he is demanding a high wage and Laporta won't stand for that. Trincao did not break into the first team last season despite promotion and Konrad never made it out of Barca B. Todibo Wanted to leave because he was behind Aurajo, Pique, and Lenglet with Garcia coming in on a free. None of those transfers had anything to do with Messi or our wage bill. Barca have turned down offers from Inter, Bayern, and PL clubs for Dest this summer, they are not selling him. Barto did his best to #@#@#@#@ Barcelona and we are paying for his presidency dearly but none of this is at the cost of Messi, and all those youth "talents" were gone either way. We won't sell Pedri or Fati.

YayNJ · 08-13-2021, 09:20 PM

didn't read past "with Emerson" when it dawned on me you've completely missed the point.

08-11-2021, 09:21 AM	#242
YayNJ Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: London / Oahu Posts: 8,289 hanelcocards	PSG now having to sell upto 10 FIRST TEAM players to accommodate Messi on a free transfer - this after Barcelona Football Club have literally been torn in half to accommodate him. (Ok, and some corruption and terrible management spanning decades) You just have to ask - is it really, truly worth it? Reports that Barcelona still owe Messi in the region of $50m in Loyalty payments too. I'm proud to be a "legacy" fan if this is the future that these scummy clubs want. Last edited by YayNJ; 08-11-2021 at 09:29 AM.

08-13-2021, 03:31 AM	#247
fadster Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,275 fadster	Latest silly season rumour are that Mbappe will let his contract expire next season and move to Real Madrid on a free. At the same time Ronaldo will do the same and then move to PSG on a free, to play alongside Messi. I can see the first one happening but not the second unless a serious paycut is involved. __________________ IG: @goldenballrookies

08-08-2021, 04:08 PM	#226
kellmuff Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 1,353	If Lukaku can score 20 league goals, Chelsea walk it. Curious to see how he gets on. Think it'll make Werner flourish too.

08-08-2021, 10:15 PM	#231
edwinx1903 Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Florida Posts: 114 edwinx1903	I missed the friendly but am hearing Umtiti and Pjanic got whistled during their presentation. The other day it was Griezmann who had fans waiting outside of the Camp Nou who were shouting at him when he arrived that he was responsible for Messi leaving. It's going to suck for Barcelona if they allow fans back this season and they don't get SPORT to sell Culé's on the Griezmann and Memphis partnership they have been trying to push. I remember when the Griezmann to Barça rumors began, Frente Atlético and several fans there turned on him at the Metropolitano and began whistling at him during a game and he began crying and Simeone and Godín who was the captain at the time had to tell them to stop.

08-09-2021, 05:10 PM	#236
YayNJ Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: London / Oahu Posts: 8,289 hanelcocards	One for the yanks, Josh Sargent has joined Norwich on a four year contract. Relegation beckons.

08-11-2021, 03:56 PM	#246
edwinx1903 Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Florida Posts: 114 edwinx1903	I don't recall the details but I know PSG face a ban of some kind for some financial violations which I'm guessing are FFP related based on all the transfers but I honestly don't recall all the details. I know they were saying PSG has a three year span to win the CL before the ban. Crazy seeing Madridistas and Culé's cry foul when PSG goes nuts in the transfer after the Florentino Perez Galácticos.

08-13-2021, 08:13 PM	#248
kellmuff Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 1,353	Would be great to see Messi and Ronaldo in the same time at the tail end of their careers. Imagine Messi play making for him?

08-13-2021, 09:20 PM	#250
YayNJ Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: London / Oahu Posts: 8,289 hanelcocards	didn't read past "with Emerson" when it dawned on me you've completely missed the point.