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Old 08-19-2021, 04:45 PM   #426
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Wont happen
It is amazing to think that MLBPA knowing the Topps deal with MLB went out two years further than their own still agreed to shifting to Fanatics after 2022 even when the idea of their being no licensed cards produced was out there. Just goes to reiterate the amount of money that Fanatics used to get their way - which was cut off Topps at its knees the moment they could.
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Old 08-19-2021, 04:47 PM   #427
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They'll make the LCS owners a crap deal and some will take it because they'll have no choice.
Exactly, why recreate the wheel?
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Old 08-19-2021, 04:47 PM   #428
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It is amazing to think that MLBPA knowing the Topps deal with MLB went out two years further than their own still agreed to shifting to Fanatics after 2022 even when the idea of their being no licensed cards produced was out there. Just goes to reiterate the amount of money that Fanatics used to get their way - which was cut off Topps at its knees the moment they could.
The players don't care if the cards get made, they got paid.
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Old 08-19-2021, 04:47 PM   #429
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It is amazing to think that MLBPA knowing the Topps deal with MLB went out two years further than their own still agreed to shifting to Fanatics after 2022 even when the idea of their being no licensed cards produced was out there. Just goes to reiterate the amount of money that Fanatics used to get their way - which was cut off Topps at its knees the moment they could.
MLBPA also knew they could get more from Fanatics instead of a bridge deal with Topps.
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Old 08-19-2021, 04:48 PM   #430
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I imagine this means Wander will be in Update now.
Change isn’t for a few years.
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Old 08-19-2021, 04:48 PM   #431
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Is this why my LCS is selling the store....
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Old 08-19-2021, 04:49 PM   #432
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This IS CRAZY. I bet the Topps/MUDS SPAC Deal falls through as a result, as well.
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Old 08-19-2021, 04:49 PM   #433
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Is this why my LCS is selling the store....
Might not be the exact reason but in the context of what is happening may be a very insightful read of how and where this market is heading.
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Old 08-19-2021, 04:50 PM   #434
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There's ya boi, dead center on Mount D-Bag - the future leader of the industry.

Wait, why is Danny Brown on there? Haha
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Old 08-19-2021, 04:50 PM   #435
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2 years without a true Bowman or Topps flagship brand(s), oh it could most certaintly happen

you'd be surprised how people can shift away from things when its no longer available or available as it once was

nobody cares about Prizm/Select baseball cards, barely anyone really cares about Panini's NT or flawless baseball stuff. Cards sell for literally pennies on the dollar

not to say that the stuff doesnt look bad, the designs are usually pretty nice, but no one cares about unlicensed products. That might be a bit of hyperbole, but when i see breakers just sitting for hours trying to fill, an honestly cheap by all comparisons 2021 Prizm case then yikes
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Old 08-19-2021, 04:50 PM   #436
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Fanatics: "Due to the environmental hazard of having loose cardboard cards in landfills, we have decided to only make NFTs. Please sign up on our website asap for the latest deals."

Them probably.
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Old 08-19-2021, 04:50 PM   #437
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Old 08-19-2021, 04:52 PM   #438
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2 years without a true Bowman or Topps flagship brand(s), oh it could most certaintly happen

you'd be surprised how people can shift away from things when its no longer available or available as it once was

nobody cares about Prizm/Select baseball cards, barely anyone really cares about Panini's NT or flawless baseball stuff. Cards sell for literally pennies on the dollar

not to say that the stuff doesnt look bad, the designs are usually pretty nice, but no one cares about unlicensed products. That might be a bit of hyperbole, but when i see breakers just sitting for hours trying to fill, an honestly cheap by all comparisons 2021 Prizm case then yikes

Topps doesnt have the MLBPA. That in itself is a huge hurdle.
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Old 08-19-2021, 04:52 PM   #439
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Why do you think they went public?
Yeah…

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2 years without a true Bowman or Topps flagship brand(s), oh it could most certaintly happen

you'd be surprised how people can shift away from things when its no longer available or available as it once was

nobody cares about Prizm/Select baseball cards, barely anyone really cares about Panini's NT or flawless baseball stuff. Cards sell for literally pennies on the dollar

not to say that the stuff doesnt look bad, the designs are usually pretty nice, but no one cares about unlicensed products. That might be a bit of hyperbole, but when i see breakers just sitting for hours trying to fill, an honestly cheap by all comparisons 2021 Prizm case then yikes
When it's the only available products, the flippers and break community will shift to it. "Nobody" cares about it now because there are better options on the market. Take away Topps and Prizm will dominate.
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Old 08-19-2021, 04:54 PM   #441
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Rob Manfred can eat a fat one
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Old 08-19-2021, 04:54 PM   #442
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What will we get in 2023, 2024, and 2025?

No logo cards from Fanatics and nothing from Topps?
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Old 08-19-2021, 04:55 PM   #443
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When it's the only available products, the flippers and break community will shift to it. "Nobody" cares about it now because there are better options on the market. Take away Topps and Prizm will dominate.
Oh the addicts will, but I think people overestimate how many people will buy cards without team logos.
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Old 08-19-2021, 04:55 PM   #444
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I means let’s be honest, no one wanted to see late 70s and 80s cards as Heritage down the road. Then it just become ms Archives 2.0

Wonder how long it will take before designers and workers from Topps jump ship to Fanatics.


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Why do you think they went public?
They're not public yet - they have a "Definitive Agreement" with a SPAC which much be confirmed via proxy by its shareholders. I doubt that happens now
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Old 08-19-2021, 04:55 PM   #446
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ActionNewtwork article said that MLB gave Topps the right to match the offer and Topps couldn't
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Old 08-19-2021, 04:55 PM   #447
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Flipping only works when there's someone at the end of the chain, the collector or investor.
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Old 08-19-2021, 04:56 PM   #448
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Chrome refractors and Topps flagship rare will increase substantially in value over the next 5 years.

Happened with Topps basketball, it will happen again. If there is a superstar rookie class in 2022 or 2023, those cards will become iconic if it's a deep RC logo class or Bowman Chrome class.
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Old 08-19-2021, 04:56 PM   #449
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ActionNewtwork article said that MLB gave Topps the right to match the offer and Topps couldn't

And given that Topps is valued at $1 billion and Fanatics is valued at $18 billion that isn't a shock.

Fanatics just bought the pot
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The baby boom happened right after World War II. That's people born in the 40s and 50s. Boomers at this point are all in their 60s and 70s. It's become such a stupid joke that people apply it to anyone who's over 25.

It is a joke/meme that needs to die and take "Karens" with it. It stopped being funny almost immediately.
Calm down, boomer.

And Karens will be funny as long as Karens do Karen things. What are are you gonna do about it? Ask to see a manager?
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