Eevee Heroes vs Evolving Skies

[wilsonjust]

For those that have opened both, which seemed to be the better or more enjoyable of the 2?

I've picked up to some ETB's of Evolving Skies to hold but was looking at maybe getting a booster box and opening.

[LBSB333]

Having opened both I preferred Eevee Heroes. The pulls seem to be more balanced overall vs Evolving Skies (based our own experience and seeing breaks online). Evolving Skies seems very hit or miss. We pre-ordered two ETBs. One had a full art Sylveon V card while the other had a V and Vmax card (nothing too rare though).

My kid is a huge Eevee fan, so getting a nice collection of Vs, VMaxs and full art cards with those characters is fun. Eevee Heroes booster boxes are tough to find though. Blowout used to sell them online. I was in their store last week so I picked up a box, but the prices went up a bit.

[FBallHobbies]

Eevee Heroes for me

I have busted a half case of Eevee Heroes (6 boxes) and a Full case worth of ES (6 boxes)

Less cards in the set for Eevee Heroes, which makes is easier to do sets. Only 69 cards in the set compared to 203 for ES

You are not guaranteed a hit in EH so when you do hit something, it makes it worth while. Especially pulling the SR and HR from the packs make the pull that much better. If you do not like bulk, 30 packs with 5 cards/pack for EH compared to 36 packs with 10 cards/pack ES

Now when it comes to value, Eevee Heroes takes the cake. Pulling the Umbreon Alt Art will be worth more than the English counterpart. Same goes with the Leafeon V, Espeon V Full Art, so on and so forth

Many ways to look at this when it comes to ripping, value, grading, set building, PC'ing, etc

The only vote Evolving Skies gets my vote is quantity. More packs to rip means more chance to pull a white code card and something nice

Other than that, Eevee Heroes gets the rest of my votes. Here are a few hits I have pulled from both. And I still have 5 boxes of EH and 2 boxes of ES I still need to rip

[Andr3000]

New to Pokémon: is the EH set only available in Japanese version? I am looking on eBay for a box, and that’s all I see.

[wilsonjust]

Originally Posted by Andr3000

New to Pokémon: is the EH set only available in Japanese version? I am looking on eBay for a box, and that’s all I see.

Correct. Evolving Skies is the English version of Eevee Heroes (Japanese).

[f2tornado]

Originally Posted by FBallHobbies

Eevee Heroes for me

I've heard this from others as well. Supposedly, the Japanese sets don't get massively reprinted which can also help hold value longer term. There's just a lot more English speakers on the globe, again, made up for with massive production/reprints. Even Sun & Moon base set just got a big ETB reprint four years after the set released. SMH.

[Andr3000]

Appreciate the info. I love the value aspect, but am not sure if having things in English would be better for my first go-around?

The eevee boxes are pretty affordable on eBay. How long does stuff take to get to the us from Japan typically?

[FBallHobbies]

Originally Posted by Andr3000

Appreciate the info. I love the value aspect, but am not sure if having things in English would be better for my first go-around?

The eevee boxes are pretty affordable on eBay. How long does stuff take to get to the us from Japan typically?

About 3 weeks. There are a few US sellers that have them but I'd rather save the $40 difference and wait the extra time to get them.

[Andr3000]

Reading some Reddit forums…

Some are saying English releases always will hold better value/have more demand than Japanese. Any truth to that? I would think that the lower print run would have the Japan version valued higher and be more sought after…as you said above.

Appreciate the discussion, once again!

My local shop has Evolving Skies for $160. Which I could have NOW…or wait three weeks for the eevee.

I guess…why not both? Haha

[FBallHobbies]

Originally Posted by Andr3000

Reading some Reddit forums…

Some are saying English releases always will hold better value/have more demand than Japanese. Any truth to that? I would think that the lower print run would have the Japan version valued higher and be more sought after…as you said above.

Appreciate the discussion, once again!

My local shop has Evolving Skies for $160. Which I could have NOW…or wait three weeks for the eevee.

I guess…why not both? Haha

And I thought the $135/box I got Evolving Skies was high, but damn $160 is pricey

[x78089]

Originally Posted by Andr3000

Reading some Reddit forums…

Some are saying English releases always will hold better value/have more demand than Japanese. Any truth to that? I would think that the lower print run would have the Japan version valued higher and be more sought after…as you said above.

Appreciate the discussion, once again!

My local shop has Evolving Skies for $160. Which I could have NOW…or wait three weeks for the eevee.

I guess…why not both? Haha

This has almost always been true, but it appears to be changing. IMO, English cards are of much lower quality and are not as vibrantly colored. They (English cards) are also printed in much higher quantities, and it seems to me that the market is starting to wake up to that. Look at the last few Japanese releases and you will see strong prices for the chase cards, many times in excess of what the English card is commanding. now, the question is will this trend continue, or is it short term that will revert back. Only time will tell.

[FBallHobbies]

Originally Posted by x78089

This has almost always been true, but it appears to be changing. IMO, English cards are of much lower quality and are not as vibrantly colored. They (English cards) are also printed in much higher quantities, and it seems to me that the market is starting to wake up to that. Look at the last few Japanese releases and you will see strong prices for the chase cards, many times in excess of what the English card is commanding. now, the question is will this trend continue, or is it short term that will revert back. Only time will tell.

Take the Umbreon Alt Art for example. Japanese versions sell close to $500 RAW while the English version sells for $200.

Evolving Skies took chase cards from 2 different sets (Blue Sky Stream and Eevee Heroes) and looks to be easier to hit either one of them in ES than their Japanese counter part

And like you pointed out, the Japanese cards have a much different feel. Higher quality with card stock and surface.

I am continuously buying Blue Sky Stream and Eevee Heroes and will not stop til I pull the chase card out of both sets. Should make it a fun ride ripping

[Nutcracker33]

Does anyone knows a case break down for Eevee Heroes ?

[Baseball Fury]

Originally Posted by Andr3000

Appreciate the info. I love the value aspect, but am not sure if having things in English would be better for my first go-around?

The eevee boxes are pretty affordable on eBay. How long does stuff take to get to the us from Japan typically?

Depends where you live. In the West Coast, stuff gets here in less than 5 days. Probably longer if you live in the East Coast.

Originally Posted by FBallHobbies

You are not guaranteed a hit in EH

You probably mean Evolving Skies, you are not guaranteed a hit in an English booster box.
Japanese boosters, although not guaranteed by the Pokemon Co., you get one SR in every box. I've been buying Japanese boosters for a few years and maybe a few didn't have the SR hit.

This is why English cards are generally more sought after, harder to pull and they have centering issues. Japanese cards tend to be mint out of the pack, few exceptions.

[FBallHobbies]

Originally Posted by Baseball Fury

Depends where you live. In the West Coast, stuff gets here in less than 5 days. Probably longer if you live in the East Coast.



You probably mean Evolving Skies, you are not guaranteed a hit in an English booster box.
Japanese boosters, although not guaranteed by the Pokemon Co., you get one SR in every box. I've been buying Japanese boosters for a few years and maybe a few didn't have the SR hit.

This is why English cards are generally more sought after, harder to pull and they have centering issues. Japanese cards tend to be mint out of the pack, few exceptions.

Clarification on my end

I meant on a per pack basis. English packs you are guarenteed a rare of some variety, whether is is a holo, non holo, v, vmax, reverse holo, etc

Japanese packs you can open and literally pull 5 base cards. I like the chase more of the Japanese packs than the English packs. And you are right on the cards pulled in Japanese packs...they are for the most part flawless and crisp.

English Cards for stuff now may be more sought after, but Japanese cards will have higher value.

[Nutcracker33]

I just opened a case of eevee heroes and got a bunch of duplicates, including 4 Gordies (3 SR + 1 HR)

Untitled by Tom Mok, on Flickr

I know you are guaranteed a SR or above in a box, but if this is the result, I am not too impressed

and although rare, jap card has its issue too

Untitled by Tom Mok, on Flickr

[FBallHobbies]

Originally Posted by Nutcracker33

I just opened a case of eevee heroes and got a bunch of duplicates, including 4 Gordies (3 SR + 1 HR)

Untitled by Tom Mok, on Flickr

I know you are guaranteed a SR or above in a box, but if this is the result, I am not too impressed

and although rare, jap card has its issue too

Untitled by Tom Mok, on Flickr

Are you selling/trading?

I have a list I need to complete 3 base sets of EH

[WallyatJCCards]

Originally Posted by wilsonjust

Correct. Evolving Skies is the English version of Eevee Heroes (Japanese).

I'm getting educated today, never knew this! Appreciate the tip. Nice to see the Pokemon community is far more pleasant and willing to help than any other card collectibles!

[ninjabum87]

So if you just want the full art V cards of the eeveelutions and some other alt art cards probably better off grabbing singles is what I'm learning from this?

[FBallHobbies]

Originally Posted by ninjabum87

So if you just want the full art V cards of the eeveelutions and some other alt art cards probably better off grabbing singles is what I'm learning from this?

Correct

Prices of evolving skies have jumped $40 since release date

[FBallHobbies]

Just pulled these 3. Busted 5 boxes of Eevee Heroes and pulled 6 Secret Rares

[ninjabum87]

Do prices usually settle down on singles once the "new" feel wears off? Seems like those Alt Vmax Umbreons are like 200+ at the moment so figured I'd ask since you can get some pretty cool older cards for that. Wondering if it might be worth waiting for something new to hype people for some of these.

[FBallHobbies]

Originally Posted by ninjabum87

Do prices usually settle down on singles once the "new" feel wears off? Seems like those Alt Vmax Umbreons are like 200+ at the moment so figured I'd ask since you can get some pretty cool older cards for that. Wondering if it might be worth waiting for something new to hype people for some of these.

For the most part yes

Prime Example is the Rainbow Pikachu VMax that released from Vivid Voltage

Fusion Strike releases in November, with the chase cards being Gengar and Mew. Both being Gen 1 Pokemon, a lot of collectors will be paying big money on that

I pre ordered some of the Japanese (Fusion Art) boxes already. I am fond of the Japanese releases

[ninjabum87]

Ah gotcha, yeah I had gotten back into things looking at Gengars and I think that's the Japanese VMax Gengar I found and ordered where he's sucking in all these trees and such?

So I see in eevee heroes there are alt art Vs for the Gen 1 eeveelutions, but not in evolving skies. Will those likely come in a future english set too?

[f2tornado]

Originally Posted by ninjabum87

Do prices usually settle down on singles once the "new" feel wears off? Seems like those Alt Vmax Umbreons are like 200+ at the moment so figured I'd ask since you can get some pretty cool older cards for that. Wondering if it might be worth waiting for something new to hype people for some of these.

Yes, and with some notable exceptions, almost always. I generally wait to pick up single cards. Evolving Skies singles are holding their own better than most recent releases but the saturation point will eventually come. There's simply no shortage of the stuff and more is on the way. That said, if you want a high grade copy, then the initial print runs often yield better quality cards.

Originally Posted by FBallHobbies

For the most part yes
Prime Example is the Rainbow Pikachu VMax that released from Vivid Voltage

One big reason for the price face plant of Vivid Voltage in particular was the massive reprint of the product. The stuff is still hitting my local Target and Walmart. It's great for character and set collectors but a big buzz kill for anyone who paid twice retail at the peak.

Another good example is the Battle Styles Tyranitar alternate art. Prices are about half what they were a few months ago. Alternate cards like that might have some long term potential otherwise the massive Pokémon print runs and reprint runs should give a person a pause if pondering investing in recent general release Pokémon cards. It's potentially going to be like 1992 Donruss baseball cards. The only stuff worth a lick are the Elite Series (kind of like the alternate art cards today) and PSA 10 Diamond Kings (a more common insert card; like a random full art).