The Official Luis Robert Thread - Page 115

FT35 · 09-21-2021, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hotcalsun

I love Luis Robert and can't wait until next year to get a full season. There's a big difference between the Ohtani S2 and the Robert S2:

2500 #700 Ohtani's, 10,000 #392 Robert's have GEM'd at PSA 10. Who know how many more #392s are sitting in the bulk sub backlog. Good news is the gem rate has been going down steadily and is now "only" at 40%.

Yep—rngrdanny nailed it. There’s plenty of reasons why the cards are graded the way they are—people rightly pegged Robert as a 2021 breakout—so they flooded their early 2021 subs with Robert. Ohtani was somewhat in bust territory heading into 2021 so the sub slots went to Robert—then PSA shut down BEFORE Ohtanimania exploded. Hence the pop reports. But my point was that both were Topps series 2 base set releases as “the hit” rookie in an otherwise thin set. Both cards are in all factory sets.

Once the Robert supply thins, you’ll see a bump—then S2 will see a bump. The real main difference between 2018 & 2020 S2 wax is Bat Down. But rookie for rookie, I actually think Ohtani will pass Robert on pop reports sooner or later.

Cards and 401K · 09-21-2021, 01:42 PM

Robert raking again today!

hotcalsun · 09-21-2021, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

I bet there are TONS of #700 Ohtani's at PSA right now. Especially considering he was getting hot right before PSA shut down.

Also, Ohtani has #US1 (a non-RD RC) that should be considered. LouBob doesn't have that to compete with #392.

How many is a ton?

Is your argument is that you think the POP of the Ohtani RC is going to approach anywhere near the LouBob RC grading count? On print run alone there is a factor of what, at least 2x?

I'm not arguing it won't go up -- but I don't think it will approach.

FT35 · 09-21-2021, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by hotcalsun

How many is a ton?

Is your argument is that you think the POP of the Ohtani RC is going to approach anywhere near the LouBob RC grading count? On print run alone there is a factor of what, at least 2x?

I'm not arguing it won't go up -- but I don't think it will approach.

Ohtani 2018 S2 will easily blow by Robert 2020 S2. He may be the most subbed athlete once PSA fully reopens. I’m talking all sports.

Akphillips86 · 09-21-2021, 02:28 PM

Checking out Robert’s game log this season is wild. Look at the number of multi hit games and the number of games he has hit safely in.

I’m a giant fan of consistency rather than guys that hit a bunch in short bursts and go cold for stretches. Clearly he has made some big adjustments this year.

If he keeps this approach, he is going to be a lethal hitter.

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LittleJimmies · 09-23-2021, 12:41 PM

Bomb already today. He is now batting 0.378 over 35 games since coming back from a major injury. That's pretty incredible.

Hopefully the Indians keep Civale in to eat soem innings because everyone is teeing off on him.

Edit: Dangit, he just knocked Civale out with a 900 mph single off the center field wall. He ended up with a single because he wasn't running very hard, but I'm not sure he would've made second regardless. Ball was off wall and in CF hand in literally 3 seconds.

Seitas · 09-23-2021, 12:53 PM

I’m buying. There are still a ton of deals out there.

cardozo · 09-23-2021, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleJimmies

Bomb already today. He is now batting 0.378 over 35 games since coming back from a major injury. That's pretty incredible.

Hopefully the Indians keep Civale in to eat soem innings because everyone is teeing off on him.

Edit: Dangit, he just knocked Civale out with a 900 mph single off the center field wall. He ended up with a single because he wasn't running very hard, but I'm not sure he would've made second regardless. Ball was off wall and in CF hand in literally 3 seconds.

Two games today, looks like it’s gonna be stat night

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ThoseBackPages · 09-23-2021, 12:59 PM

ive been trying to pick up his Topps Gold and Heritage Action in non-gem PSA/CSG. no luck yet!

koneil · 09-23-2021, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleJimmies

Bomb already today. He is now batting 0.378 over 35 games since coming back from a major injury. That's pretty incredible.

Hopefully the Indians keep Civale in to eat soem innings because everyone is teeing off on him.

Edit: Dangit, he just knocked Civale out with a 900 mph single off the center field wall. He ended up with a single because he wasn't running very hard, but I'm not sure he would've made second regardless. Ball was off wall and in CF hand in literally 3 seconds.

I feel like Robert hasn't been running at full speed since he came back which probably makes sense with the injury he had. 1 SB since returning. I've noticed on some of his doubles he'll just be strolling casually into 2nd as the ball comes back into the infield. No interest in triples. I think he's taking it a bit easy and since he's raking no reason to risk injury this late in the reg season

Yaga · 09-23-2021, 01:27 PM

Just got this scanned in my COMC port last night. I got caught bidding without checking the description and realized after I won, that it had a couple of scratches on the front. Oh well, still a nice card for the PC!

2020 Bowman Chrome - [Base] - Orange Refractor #8 - Luis Robert /25
Courtesy of COMC.com

cardozo · 09-23-2021, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by koneil

I feel like Robert hasn't been running at full speed since he came back which probably makes sense with the injury he had. 1 SB since returning. I've noticed on some of his doubles he'll just be strolling casually into 2nd as the ball comes back into the infield. No interest in triples. I think he's taking it a bit easy and since he's raking no reason to risk injury this late in the reg season

My thoughts exactly, he will do what’s needed but not take unnecessary risks.

LittleJimmies · 09-23-2021, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by koneil

I feel like Robert hasn't been running at full speed since he came back which probably makes sense with the injury he had. 1 SB since returning. I've noticed on some of his doubles he'll just be strolling casually into 2nd as the ball comes back into the infield. No interest in triples. I think he's taking it a bit easy and since he's raking no reason to risk injury this late in the reg season

Good point. He is going full speed in the outfield, but that is probably just instinct taking over.

Cpdjoe77 · 09-23-2021, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaga

Just got this scanned in my COMC port last night. I got caught bidding without checking the description and realized after I won, that it had a couple of scratches on the front. Oh well, still a nice card for the PC!

2020 Bowman Chrome - [Base] - Orange Refractor #8 - Luis Robert /25
Courtesy of COMC.com

Curious, if this is a PC Card why would you send it out for someone else to store? Or maybe I’m not understanding what comc is/does, if so, my bad

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Yaga · 09-23-2021, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cpdjoe77

Curious, if this is a PC Card why would you send it out for someone else to store? Or maybe I’m not understanding what comc is/does, if so, my bad

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I live in Canada but the majority of US sellers don't ship up here so I have to use COMC to have them ship it to, and then I bundle it all up and ship it up here to my home

cardozo · 09-23-2021, 02:04 PM

Sent these express a short while ago and was quite pleased with the outcome

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ewokpelts · 09-23-2021, 08:41 PM

Second playoff berth!

ZappBrannigan · 09-23-2021, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaga

I live in Canada but the majority of US sellers don't ship up here so I have to use COMC to have them ship it to, and then I bundle it all up and ship it up here to my home

Or they don’t know how to put a 7$ card into a 50 cent bubble mailer and charge 4 bucks for shipping.

Badgers0821 · 09-23-2021, 09:15 PM

Ugh, finally found a Bowman’s Best Atomic auto and someone sent it into CSG…gross

fabiani12333 · 09-23-2021, 09:29 PM

Luis Robert has been great, but I'm definitely getting a Yasiel Puig 2013 vibe from him.

Robert only has 9 homers with a 4.2% walk rate and .424 BABIP in 262 PAs. His chase rate is well above average -- 38.4% vs 27.6%.

Puig's first 289 PAs in 2013: 11 HR, .351/.412/.556, .440 BABIP, 8% BB, 23.5% K, 36% chase rate

Robert's first 262 PAs in 2021: 9 HR, .355/.393/.559, .424 BABIP, 4.2% BB, 20.2% K, 38.4% chase rate

Akphillips86 · 09-23-2021, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Luis Robert has been great, but I'm definitely getting a Yasiel Puig 2013 vibe from him.

Robert only has 9 homers with a 4.2% walk rate and .424 BABIP in 262 PAs. His chase rate is well above average -- 38.4% vs 27.6%.

Puig's first 289 PAs in 2013: 11 HR, .351/.412/.556, .440 BABIP, 8% BB, 23.5% K, 36% chase rate

Robert's first 262 PAs in 2021: 9 HR, .355/.393/.559, .424 BABIP, 4.2% BB, 20.2% K, 38.4% chase rate

One statistically similar year maybe, but I don’t get the Puig mentality vibe from Robert though.

That’s a really significant missing component in that comparison in the realm of career trajectory.

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jhssketchcards · 09-23-2021, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Luis Robert has been great, but I'm definitely getting a Yasiel Puig 2013 vibe from him.

Robert only has 9 homers with a 4.2% walk rate and .424 BABIP in 262 PAs. His chase rate is well above average -- 38.4% vs 27.6%.

Puig's first 289 PAs in 2013: 11 HR, .351/.412/.556, .440 BABIP, 8% BB, 23.5% K, 36% chase rate

Robert's first 262 PAs in 2021: 9 HR, .355/.393/.559, .424 BABIP, 4.2% BB, 20.2% K, 38.4% chase rate

Puig was a ticking time bomb and a diva. Robert seems to be very even keel. The fact he came back from his injury and is mashing says a lot. Puig seemed to be very erratic a lot of times emotionally.

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LittleJimmies · 09-23-2021, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Luis Robert has been great, but I'm definitely getting a Yasiel Puig 2013 vibe from him.

Robert only has 9 homers with a 4.2% walk rate and .424 BABIP in 262 PAs. His chase rate is well above average -- 38.4% vs 27.6%.

Puig's first 289 PAs in 2013: 11 HR, .351/.412/.556, .440 BABIP, 8% BB, 23.5% K, 36% chase rate

Robert's first 262 PAs in 2021: 9 HR, .355/.393/.559, .424 BABIP, 4.2% BB, 20.2% K, 38.4% chase rate

Luckily Robert doesn't have Puig's brain in his head. Puig was the only thing that stopped Puig from being a great player.

Hail2TheVictors · 09-23-2021, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cardozo

Sent these express a short while ago and was quite pleased with the outcome

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Geez, fantastic sub

cardozo · 09-24-2021, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

Geez, fantastic sub

Thanks, above any expectations I had going in.

09-23-2021, 12:41 PM	#2856
LittleJimmies Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Chicago Posts: 5,574	Bomb already today. He is now batting 0.378 over 35 games since coming back from a major injury. That's pretty incredible. Hopefully the Indians keep Civale in to eat soem innings because everyone is teeing off on him. Edit: Dangit, he just knocked Civale out with a 900 mph single off the center field wall. He ended up with a single because he wasn't running very hard, but I'm not sure he would've made second regardless. Ball was off wall and in CF hand in literally 3 seconds. Last edited by LittleJimmies; 09-23-2021 at 12:48 PM.

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09-21-2021, 02:28 PM	#2855
Akphillips86 Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 2,960	Checking out Robert’s game log this season is wild. Look at the number of multi hit games and the number of games he has hit safely in. I’m a giant fan of consistency rather than guys that hit a bunch in short bursts and go cold for stretches. Clearly he has made some big adjustments this year. If he keeps this approach, he is going to be a lethal hitter. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09-23-2021, 12:53 PM	#2857
Seitas Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Fresno, Ca Posts: 745	I’m buying. There are still a ton of deals out there.

09-23-2021, 01:27 PM	#2861
Yaga Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 7,525	Just got this scanned in my COMC port last night. I got caught bidding without checking the description and realized after I won, that it had a couple of scratches on the front. Oh well, still a nice card for the PC! 2020 Bowman Chrome - [Base] - Orange Refractor #8 - Luis Robert /25 Courtesy of COMC.com

09-23-2021, 08:41 PM	#2867
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09-23-2021, 09:15 PM	#2869
Badgers0821 Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 8,094	Ugh, finally found a Bowman’s Best Atomic auto and someone sent it into CSG…gross

09-23-2021, 09:29 PM	#2870
fabiani12333 Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 13,158	Luis Robert has been great, but I'm definitely getting a Yasiel Puig 2013 vibe from him. Robert only has 9 homers with a 4.2% walk rate and .424 BABIP in 262 PAs. His chase rate is well above average -- 38.4% vs 27.6%. Puig's first 289 PAs in 2013: 11 HR, .351/.412/.556, .440 BABIP, 8% BB, 23.5% K, 36% chase rate Robert's first 262 PAs in 2021: 9 HR, .355/.393/.559, .424 BABIP, 4.2% BB, 20.2% K, 38.4% chase rate