The Official Luis Robert Thread - Page 116

corockies · 09-24-2021, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Luis Robert has been great, but I'm definitely getting a Yasiel Puig 2013 vibe from him.

Robert only has 9 homers with a 4.2% walk rate and .424 BABIP in 262 PAs. His chase rate is well above average -- 38.4% vs 27.6%.

Puig's first 289 PAs in 2013: 11 HR, .351/.412/.556, .440 BABIP, 8% BB, 23.5% K, 36% chase rate

Robert's first 262 PAs in 2021: 9 HR, .355/.393/.559, .424 BABIP, 4.2% BB, 20.2% K, 38.4% chase rate

Robert has always reminded me of an outstanding late 90's player - Mike Cameron. Cameron had a great career. This comparison doesn't bode well for cardboard reasons though.

corockies · 09-24-2021, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jhssketchcards

Puig was a ticking time bomb and a diva. Robert seems to be very even keel. The fact he came back from his injury and is mashing says a lot. Puig seemed to be very erratic a lot of times emotionally.

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Did you ever see what Puig went through to get to America to play baseball? He was never fully acclimated to how society ran here. Most of his erratic behavior can be attributed to him not knowing how to act in a vastly different social setting. Dude was extorted badly to escape Cuba.

FT35 · 09-24-2021, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Luis Robert has been great, but I'm definitely getting a Yasiel Puig 2013 vibe from him.

I very much understand your point of comparing the numbers but let me see if I can help you put your mind at ease on this one. One of the things that made Robert the top international target and that’s carried with him still is his professionalism. It’s the first word out of many people’s mouths when they describe him. That’s a stark contest to Puig—his unprofessionalism drove his decline. Robert’s talent is also far from “Puig” raw. His head is in the right place and all arrows are pointing up on where his career could take him.

FT35 · 09-24-2021, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

ive been trying to pick up his Topps Gold and Heritage Action in non-gem PSA/CSG. no luck yet!

I’m in the market for an Action too. Have you found anything close to centered? I’m seeing 70/30 as the best options most of the time.

Bizzydesigner · 09-24-2021, 10:50 AM

Finally decided to use some of my COMC funds and pick up a card I've been wanting to grab for a while. Seeing how I wont have it in hand for some time I'll just use the COMC scan lol

Have a couple/few more chrome parallels I want to pick up yet.

ThoseBackPages · 09-24-2021, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by FT35

I’m in the market for an Action too. Have you found anything close to centered? I’m seeing 70/30 as the best options most of the time.

you're right, centering seems to be terrible overall. i do feel that a lot of these are currently in the PSA "clog" as well, so im hoping to find one this fall

FT35 · 09-24-2021, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

you're right, centering seems to be terrible overall. i do feel that a lot of these are currently in the PSA "clog" as well, so im hoping to find one this fall

Not a bad plan at all.

SaltyCracker · 09-24-2021, 07:23 PM

Hr #10 off Bieber. Hitting .356

In the bag · 09-24-2021, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyCracker

Hr #10 off Bieber. Hitting .356

Trevor Stephan was the pitcher

SaltyCracker · 09-24-2021, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by In the bag

Trevor Stephan was the pitcher

Good call. Missed Biebs getting pulled.

PLAYED4NOTHING · 09-24-2021, 07:41 PM

This guy bats all over the lineup for whatever reason. Sure doesn’t make a difference he’s just plain consistent.

FT35 · 09-24-2021, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PLAYED4NOTHING

This guy bats all over the lineup for whatever reason. Sure doesn’t make a difference he’s just plain consistent.

Ha! True! He hits leadoff when Anderson is out or on the DL. But TA really belongs at the top when he’s healthy. The real mixer though is Moncada. He’s a switch hitter with wild splits so they bat him wherever the numbers say on a given day—that is mostly 2nd/5th/6th/7th. Since 3rd is Abreu’s spot and Eloy typically hits 4th, that makes Robert the swap on days where Moncada’s splits aren’t ideal. They usually place Robert/Moncada and Grandal in those 4 spots—but play the numbers game based on their opponent/location/game time.

It’s nice that Robert performs well wherever! The most consistent is the most inconsistently used!

Badgers0821 · 09-24-2021, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FT35

Ha! True! He hits leadoff when Anderson is out or on the DL. But TA really belongs at the top when he’s healthy. The real mixer though is Moncada. He’s a switch hitter with wild splits so they bat him wherever the numbers say on a given day—that is mostly 2nd/5th/6th/7th. Since 3rd is Abreu’s spot and Eloy typically hits 4th, that makes Robert the swap on days where Moncada’s splits aren’t ideal. They usually place Robert/Moncada and Grandal in those 4 spots—but play the numbers game based on their opponent/location/game time.

It’s nice that Robert performs well wherever! The most consistent is the most inconsistently used!

I still think he should be in the three hole eventually. Perfect spot for a player who can do it all.

cardozo · 09-25-2021, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Badgers0821

I still think he should be in the three hole eventually. Perfect spot for a player who can do it all.

As long as it’s not outside the top 5 I’m good, move him around depending on lineup and opponents.

Badgers0821 · 09-25-2021, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cardozo

As long as it’s not outside the top 5 I’m good, move him around depending on lineup and opponents.

For now I agree but I just feel like long term you want to get him in “his spot” for consistency. I’m not sure you want him moving around the lineup like this his entire career.

cardozo · 09-25-2021, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Badgers0821

For now I agree but I just feel like long term you want to get him in “his spot” for consistency. I’m not sure you want him moving around the lineup like this his entire career.

He is the future lead off hitter, but as long as Tim Anderson is hitting well that won’t change and that’s fine with me.

RTP316 · 09-25-2021, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Badgers0821

For now I agree but I just feel like long term you want to get him in “his spot” for consistency. I’m not sure you want him moving around the lineup like this his entire career.

He'll be hitting 5th or 6th in the playoffs vs a righy starter. And, second vs a lefty starter.

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k13 · 09-25-2021, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

I bet there are TONS of #700 Ohtani's at PSA right now. Especially considering he was getting hot right before PSA shut down.

Also, Ohtani has #US1 (a non-RD RC) that should be considered. LouBob doesn't have that to compete with #392.

Way more Roberts at PSA.

It is the #1 card for baseball being graded every month.

k13 · 09-25-2021, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Really wanting to see what he's capable of with a full season.

Obviously next year his numbers will drop and won't continue at this pace.

He'll be a 25 year old with barely one full season under his belt.

cardozo · 09-25-2021, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by k13

Obviously next year his numbers will drop and won't continue at this pace.

He'll be a 25 year old with barely one full season under his belt.

Obviously he won’t have a .354 batting average over a full season but there has been improvement on each level of his game so using the word “drop” that deliberately isn’t going to age well.

k13 · 09-25-2021, 10:03 AM

Jose Abreu won MVP, RoY, still sells for crap.
There's no way Luis will produces the same numbers from age 27 to 34 as Abreu.

Best to dump him now while iron is hot.

cardozo · 09-25-2021, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by k13

Jose Abreu won MVP, RoY, still sells for crap.
There's no way Luis will produces the same numbers from age 27 to 34 as Abreu.

Best to dump him now while iron is hot.

We can always use a hint of negativity in the thread, thank you for contributing

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Cpdjoe77 · 09-25-2021, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cardozo

We can always use a hint of negativity in the thread, thank you for contributing

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He trolls in every thread he posts on

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cardozo · 09-25-2021, 10:18 AM

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He trolls in every thread he posts on

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I thought we were special, guess not

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Badgers0821 · 09-25-2021, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by k13

Jose Abreu won MVP, RoY, still sells for crap.
There's no way Luis will produces the same numbers from age 27 to 34 as Abreu.

Best to dump him now while iron is hot.

Do you just troll every thread? Gotta love the interwebs

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