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Old 10-08-2021, 10:15 AM   #1
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Anyone see an issue with having a single card put in a soft plastic taped inside of a toploader and then placed inside of a bubble mailer? I received neutral feedback because the card wasn't put inside of a team bag. I don't understand how not placing a card in a cheap plastic bag is the difference between positive and neutral feedback.

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Old 10-08-2021, 10:17 AM   #2
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Anyone see an issue with having a single card put in a soft plastic taped inside of a toploader and then placed inside of a bubble mailer? I received neutral feedback because the card wasn't put inside of a team bag. I don't understand how not placing a card in a cheap plastic bag is the difference between positive and neutral feedback.

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I do sleeve, top loader, painters tape, team bag, junk base cards for protection so they can’t whine, bubble mailer, sometimes I accidentally forget the team bag when I get in a rush.
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Forgot to add the item got the buyer in the condition described in the auction, undamaged, and within a couple of days of purchasing the item.
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Some people are entitled snobs. What's his ebay ID so I can block him

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Your job is to get it to him safely. If the result is that it got to him safely & there's nothing otherwise wrong with the card, anything other than positive feedback is incorrect.

There's a reason you can type words in the feedback -- that's where he should voice his stupid opinion.

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Yup, team bag should not make a difference, card is still protected well
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Anyone see an issue with having a single card put in a soft plastic taped inside of a toploader and then placed inside of a bubble mailer? I received neutral feedback because the card wasn't put inside of a team bag. I don't understand how not placing a card in a cheap plastic bag is the difference between positive and neutral feedback.

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You left out some relevant details, but I always ship in a team bagged toploader, along with 5 common cards or a decoy card for added thickness, all inside a padded mailer (preferably a 000 envelope so the card doesn't swim around inside, especially if you wrap the invoice around it).

If you are using regular tape, that's a big no-no. People who use tape should use painter's tape, but I think even that is bad because weak adhesive is still adhesive. You should also consider adding some additional cards or cardboard for thickness.

All of this said, if the only issue here was the lack of a team bag, I don't think that's really anything that would warrant a neutral or neg feedback.
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I do sleeve, top loader, painters tape, team bag, junk base cards for protection so they can’t whine, bubble mailer, sometimes I accidentally forget the team bag when I get in a rush.
I did everything but the team bag for a $6 card. All that stuff adds up though. With shipping, sleeve, top loader, team bag, and bubble mailer that's most likely over $6.

Just irritating. I could see if the card was damaged but I've sent thousands of cards out like that and never had one damaged.
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You left out some relevant details, but I always ship in a team bagged toploader, along with 5 common cards or a decoy card for added thickness, all inside a padded mailer (preferably a 000 envelope so the card doesn't swim around inside, especially if you wrap the invoice around it).

If you are using regular tape, that's a big no-no. People who use tape should use painter's tape, but I think even that is bad because weak adhesive is still adhesive. You should also consider adding some additional cards or cardboard for thickness.

All of this said, if the only issue here was the lack of a team bag, I don't think that's really anything that would warrant a neutral or neg feedback.

Painters tape and I put in packing peanuts inside the bubble mailer so the card doesn't slide around.
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Old 10-08-2021, 10:23 AM   #10
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I did everything but the team bag for a $6 card. All that stuff adds up though. With shipping, sleeve, top loader, team bag, and bubble mailer that's most likely over $6.

Just irritating. I could see if the card was damaged but I've sent thousands of cards out like that and never had one damaged.
Yes, it does add up and it sucks, but it’s the times these days
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Old 10-08-2021, 10:27 AM   #11
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I did everything but the team bag for a $6 card. All that stuff adds up though. With shipping, sleeve, top loader, team bag, and bubble mailer that's most likely over $6.

Just irritating. I could see if the card was damaged but I've sent thousands of cards out like that and never had one damaged.
For a $6 card you should use the $20 PWE service from eBay. It is great and no one complains because I charge $1 to ship. I use a penny sleeve, top loader, blue painters tape, and wrap the card in the invoice so it doesn't move around the envelope. I sent out hundreds of these with no issues at all. Plus there is insurance on these!
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For a $6 card you should use the $20 PWE service from eBay. It is great and no one complains because I charge $1 to ship. I use a penny sleeve, top loader, blue painters tape, and wrap the card in the invoice so it doesn't move around the envelope. I sent out hundreds of these with no issues at all. Plus there is insurance on these!
This. I do these all the time. Easy. Only one issue out of hundreds done.


I differ from most response above, I think a team bag should be standard.
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Old 10-08-2021, 10:38 AM   #13
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For a $6 card you should use the $20 PWE service from eBay. It is great and no one complains because I charge $1 to ship. I use a penny sleeve, top loader, blue painters tape, and wrap the card in the invoice so it doesn't move around the envelope. I sent out hundreds of these with no issues at all. Plus there is insurance on these!
I use the QR code option, let the PO print my labels, they don’t have one for ESUS, wish they did
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I differ from most response above, I think a team bag should be standard.
For cards I sell over $20 I sell I use superior fit sleeves on the top loader. I also cut out cardboard and sandwich the card. Then it goes into a bubble mailer. For cards $5 to $10, eBay PWE is the way.
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Old 10-08-2021, 11:13 AM   #15
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I put low value cards in a penny sleeve, inside a toploader, seal the top with tape, then in the envelope between 2 index cards, and seal the envelope with a piece of tape for good measure. Never until this year did I receive a complaint. Two people gave me positive feedback, although they said I used too much tape. My response was I've been doing this for 23 years, I sort of have it figured out.
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Old 10-08-2021, 11:49 AM   #16
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For a $6 card you should use the $20 PWE service from eBay. It is great and no one complains because I charge $1 to ship. I use a penny sleeve, top loader, blue painters tape, and wrap the card in the invoice so it doesn't move around the envelope. I sent out hundreds of these with no issues at all. Plus there is insurance on these!

A nice service, but I’ve run into a few sellers charging $4-5 in shipping for eBay standard shipping. As in, I pay $5 shipping, and it shows up in eBay standard with a .71 postmark.

Fwiw I always use team bag. Got a whole stack of used ones from other eBay purchases. But a neutral or neg for not having one is nonsense.


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Old 10-08-2021, 12:48 PM   #17
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Yeah that seems like a fine way to ship. And in no way worthy of a neutral feedback.

I do always put in my item description something along the lines of “card ships secured in a top loader and inside of bubble mailer with tracking”. I know that isn’t the most clear and precise description, but if somebody complains I at least can point to that and say “I told you how I ship”. Now, if I’m selling something that is clearly a higher value card I’ll add extra padding and extra security. I’m not a big time seller at all but I’ve never had any shipping issues as a seller or trader over the years
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Old 10-08-2021, 12:55 PM   #18
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In regards to people mentioning using blue painter's tape on the top loader, that definitely works, but I personally never put tape on the top loader/card at all.

I use a penny sleeve, put it in a top-loader, and then print out the packing slip and fold the packing slip paper tightly around the card and use blue painter's tape on the outer (folded) packing slip itself to encase the card.

Never had an issue with this, and even with blue painter's tape I have received cards where the card gets jostled in the top loader and the blue tape sticks to the card a bit, so that's why I never tape a card personally. Not saying anyone should do it this way, just saying that this way of not taping the card has worked for me.
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Old 10-08-2021, 01:08 PM   #19
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Never got a neutral for packaging, but I did have someone not leave feedback once because of the top loader I used. This was the message I got: "Received package today and was disappointed in the plain top loader used. I wanted a gold Rookie Card one that everyone else uses for rookie cards. I don't like leaving bad feedback, so I will just not give any at all."

I don't care about not getting feedback, many don't even bother anymore, but the fact that he though this might warrant a negative is crazy. Entitled morons being entitled morons.
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Old 10-08-2021, 01:38 PM   #20
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I do sleeve, top loader, painters tape, team bag, junk base cards for protection so they can’t whine, bubble mailer, sometimes I accidentally forget the team bag when I get in a rush.
If they want to whine they will find something to whine about. I have had them complain about crooked labels, scratches on top loaders, using old top loaders. Using any tape.

I have never used a team bag on any shipment and never will. If they cry about that then they are whiney entitled little b's that could not be pleased no matter what you did and a feedback like that hurts them MORE than it ever will you as the seller. I imagine any seller who properly screes feedback of buyers who make offers would see that and happily block them. I know I would if I saw it.

Please share this losers Ebay ID.

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Old 10-08-2021, 02:17 PM   #21
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Everyone prefers different way of packaging. Some people complains too much packaging. Some people complains too little. At the end, the neutral was not warranted as the card was properly protected and arrived undamaged. A neutral like that will not/should not hurt you.

Yes, you need to share the user ID for other sellers to block him if they desired.
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Never got a neutral for packaging, but I did have someone not leave feedback once because of the top loader I used. This was the message I got: "Received package today and was disappointed in the plain top loader used. I wanted a gold Rookie Card one that everyone else uses for rookie cards. I don't like leaving bad feedback, so I will just not give any at all."
Wow.
What a clown! That's crazy.
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Painters tape and I put in packing peanuts inside the bubble mailer so the card doesn't slide around.
don't use packing peanuts
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Old 10-08-2021, 04:31 PM   #24
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don't use packing peanuts
Some POs are anal about the thickness my old one if you sold a card and it did not meet the thickness requirement they would upgrade it to priority. The packing peanut eliminated any debate. I don't have to do it anymore but it used to be a necessity for that reason.
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People seem to have a huge fear of the card sliding out of the toploader. I've heard people complain about team bags, saying that it's not enough and they want painters tape over the toploader too. So that's what I do...tape and team bag / superior fit sleeve.
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