Still a buying opportunity?

[Spacemanspif]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

The lack of interest right now in NBA cards is concerning me. I'm barely selling the quantity of what I usually do. I think people are really burnt out of NBA.

Originally Posted by Kobe101

I am always trying to buy what I like.

I saw a post from card ladder talking about how this period of the year sales drop across the board.

I did not see that at all. I don't think I have won a single auction since I saw the post.....I have won a bunch of cards using best offer and probably over paying but that is fine.

The Market Is Fine.

keep in mind this past week just had a Goldin auction and the PWCC auction, which drew a ton of buyers away from Ebay or Facebook or whatever. I held back from auctioning the past 2 weeks because I figured everybody was running "NBA season starting" auctions, expecting huge action. Well, when everyone is flooding the market with supply, you're not going to see huge run ups in prices. good to hear that from the buying side, you're not seeing too much falling down either. I agree the market is fine. People are following posts and making offers (under market), I just think most people are done being reckless and getting a lot more tight with cash

[bloodwings19]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

The lack of interest right now in NBA cards is concerning me. I'm barely selling the quantity of what I usually do. I think people are really burnt out of NBA.

+1 It is a buy, buy market on base cards. It doesn't help that gas and food prices have gone way up from 6 months ago. I was putting $20 to fill the gas, now it is $35.

[gomiamigo]

I think Lonnie is still a very good buy. shooting % up across the board this year, still only 22. Making 2.5 3s a game at a 39% clip. eFG% up from 50 to 56%.

Bet on himself by declining a contract extension. Hard worker, good kid, unlimited athleticism.

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by bloodwings19

+1 It is a buy, buy market on base cards. It doesn't help that gas and food prices have gone way up from 6 months ago. I was putting $20 to fill the gas, now it is $35.

It's $60 in California - And yeah, I'd agree with previous posters. People are being way more selective. Literally the only 2 players I've sold a lot of this season are poole and bridges.

Historically holidays mean peoples card budget gets cut back. And this year we are paying more for less on all consumer related products, which may be why cards are on the backburner for many.

[messier2]

I'm going to see how prices are this weekend at the Dallas show. The show is mostly modern, so really a great chance to see where the market is at now.

I have a feeling it's going to be either:

1. High prices because the dealers REFUSE to take a loss/bath on stuff.

or

2. Lower prices as dealers want to get rid of inventory and move on from the losers.

Which do you think?

[messier2]

So, KPJ is a buy??

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by messier2

So, KPJ is a buy??

If you want to piss away your money.

Miles Bridges is the best young player buy that still has reasonably affordable high-end cards. A legit two-way player who has a lot of eyes on him because of Melo.

[mbuch21]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

It's $60 in California - And yeah, I'd agree with previous posters. People are being way more selective. Literally the only 2 players I've sold a lot of this season are poole and bridges.

Historically holidays mean peoples card budget gets cut back. And this year we are paying more for less on all consumer related products, which may be why cards are on the backburner for many.

I’m not sure it’s about being selective. I think the market has awoken to the fact that:
First, base prizm has essentially unlimited supply, so no imperative to buy/hold. Base everything is abundant and people are losing interest.
Second, soooo much of the high end inventory turned over during the bubble, much of which is now half way underwater. So no imperative for owners to sell that stuff either.
Third, there is no psa flip play, so that whole buyer pool is gone.
Fourth, putting aside a handful of improved players, there’s just not that much of a catalyst to get people excited so far this season.
Fifth, the new releases from last year and this year are trickling in slooowly.
Sixth, breakers can’t make the math work, so that’s not much of a thing, and they aren’t consolidating wax at the same rate.

When you take out that much of the market, yes, the market looks very shallow at the moment.

[SearchPatrol]

I think what you really should have posted was

"Still a FLIPPING opportunity"

You can always "buy" cards.

[ClipsFan]

Originally Posted by dasiegel

Injuries are always buying time

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by mbuch21

I’m not sure it’s about being selective. I think the market has awoken to the fact that:
First, base prizm has essentially unlimited supply, so no imperative to buy/hold. Base everything is abundant and people are losing interest.
Second, soooo much of the high end inventory turned over during the bubble, much of which is now half way underwater. So no imperative for owners to sell that stuff either.
Third, there is no psa flip play, so that whole buyer pool is gone.
Fourth, putting aside a handful of improved players, there’s just not that much of a catalyst to get people excited so far this season.
Fifth, the new releases from last year and this year are trickling in slooowly.
Sixth, breakers can’t make the math work, so that’s not much of a thing, and they aren’t consolidating wax at the same rate.

When you take out that much of the market, yes, the market looks very shallow at the moment.

Agree with these points. Interested what you mean by "breakers can't make the math work"

I think I know....- Panini decided to raise the cost of all their products so people aren't going to buy into team breaks for higher costs anymore when the entire market is shallow.

There just aren't enough new suckers for the slightly dishonest people in the hobby (no shortage of them) to take advantage of. I'm actually glad the noobs are learning what cards are valuable and which ones aren't. 2nd year prizms never should've been a thing anyway...

[Nomad]

2nd year pre-2018 prizm silvers on the other hand.... A shallower shelf can mean more upward momentum at the crest of the wave.

[messier2]

People trying to unload KPJ left and right in Dallas. Some willing to take a huge loss!

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by Nomad

2nd year pre-2018 prizm silvers on the other hand.... A shallower shelf can mean more upward momentum at the crest of the wave.

These cards have never been desirable historically. Unless there is another bubble, I just don't see them retaining value. Maybe Giannis is the exception.

[bloodwings19]

Originally Posted by messier2

People trying to unload KPJ left and right in Dallas. Some willing to take a huge loss!

He hurt his ankle couple nights ago, but he practiced and may play tomorrow.

[Arianny_Fan]

Harry Giles?

[cardsin47]

Always a great time to buy GOATS

[mbrahv1984]

Originally Posted by bloodwings19

+1 It is a buy, buy market on base cards. It doesn't help that gas and food prices have gone way up from 6 months ago. I was putting $20 to fill the gas, now it is $35.

No, it is definitely not a buy market for base cards.. Unless you meant it's a BUYERS market for base because the value of them were never as high as they were selling for and now can be bought for cheap.

[DajuanWagner]

Originally Posted by messier2

I'm going to see how prices are this weekend at the Dallas show. The show is mostly modern, so really a great chance to see where the market is at now.

I have a feeling it's going to be either:

1. High prices because the dealers REFUSE to take a loss/bath on stuff.

or

2. Lower prices as dealers want to get rid of inventory and move on from the losers.

Which do you think?

#1........

[Nomad]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

These cards have never been desirable historically. Unless there is another bubble, I just don't see them retaining value. Maybe Giannis is the exception.

I think it's more of a production number thing for silvers, 2012-17. Maybe 500, rising to 1000 before we entered the stratosphere? On that and the desirability of Prizm brand (sure, collectors are capable of differentiating between early and late years of a brand, look at Topps baseball as the 80s progressed). Grade being equal, I imagine that a second-year Prizm silver up to 2017 will ultimately eclipse any rookie base the player has.

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by Nomad

I think it's more of a production number thing for silvers, 2012-17. Maybe 500, rising to 1000 before we entered the stratosphere? On that and the desirability of Prizm brand (sure, collectors are capable of differentiating between early and late years of a brand, look at Topps baseball as the 80s progressed). Grade being equal, I imagine that a second-year Prizm silver up to 2017 will ultimately eclipse any rookie base the player has.

Two giannis 2014/2015 prizm silvers BGS 9.5 ended @ $425 and $420 yesterday. Good pickups for whoever got them.

[jbball50]

Originally Posted by richcowcow

Yah never too late. Will Lonnie Walker or Keldon make a move up? Will Zach Lavine and the Bulls be relevant?

Before the season started I thought the bulls would be pretty good with their team. Tried picking up a couple lavines and picked up a topps chrome refractor rc derozan psa 9 the other day.

[The_Reverend]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

If you want to piss away your money.

Miles Bridges is the best young player buy that still has reasonably affordable high-end cards. A legit two-way player who has a lot of eyes on him because of Melo.

Sold off some KPJ’s at the Dallas show this weekend. He has a “fit” problem.

[UsernameHere]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

KPJ is immature, has an attitude problem, is selfish, and on a terrible team that doesn’t fit together at all. He’s a recipe for disaster at these prices.

Yeah I honestly had trouble understanding the hype and how expensive his prices got. Some of the cards I collect - KPJ flying past Reddish/Barrett/Hunter levels and approaching Ja levels. It was absolute madness.

[jbball50]

Originally Posted by UsernameHere

Yeah I honestly had trouble understanding the hype and how expensive his prices got. Some of the cards I collect - KPJ flying past Reddish/Barrett/Hunter levels and approaching Ja levels. It was absolute madness.

Pretty easy answer… youngest player to score 50 points and have 10 assists in a game will give that type of hype.