MUST READ TRIMMING THREAD: COMC- HawkDynasty,cccardfactory,LORDSTANLEY2012|PWCC|ih8ca

[MoreToppsPlease]

The amount of space in that Rocket slab is incredible.

[Pink Pussycat]

Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

The amount of space in that Rocket slab is incredible.

Yes, ridiculous... You'd think that the absurdly small size just might be a "red flag" to those rocket scientists at PSA. Really makes you believe that it's fraud/corruption vs. incompetence. Nobody is that blind.

Never Get Cheated.

[pspa123]

Originally Posted by Pink Pussycat

Yes, ridiculous... You'd think that the absurdly small size just might be a "red flag" to those rocket scientists at PSA. Really makes you believe that it's fraud/corruption vs. incompetence. Nobody is that blind.

Never Get Cheated.

Pun intended?

[Pink Pussycat]

Originally Posted by pspa123

Pun intended?

Yes, you got it!

[pip]

The 1959-60 Rocket Richard is also trimmed on its left edge.

[pip]

The first ten pages of this thread are a must read for every serious collector.

[Pink Pussycat]

Originally Posted by pip

The first ten pages of this thread are a must read for every serious collector.

And also a must read for Law Enforcement. Hope they are still paying attention.

[corndog]

PSA Cert #42755490

1967 Topps Bobby Orr #118

Value gain of $378.69

PSA Set Registry: Jet

This card was purchased by Ebay ID irvinecardco from Ebay seller probstein123 as a PSA 8 for $316.31 on August 30, 2018.

Same card was sold by PWCC (Brent and Betsy Huigens) as a PSA 8.5 for $695.00 on January 26, 2021.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red box identifies trimmed bottom edge.

[pip]

1967 Topps hockey cards are commonly larger than normal. Lots of trimming has been done in this set.

[MoreToppsPlease]

Originally Posted by pip

1967 Topps hockey cards are commonly larger than normal. Lots of trimming has been done in this set.

Information like this should be readily available, along with the fact that card doctors are more likely to target these cards.

[corndog]

PSA Cert #24989781

1957 Parkhurst Henri Richard #4

Value gain of $1,500.92

PSA Set Registry: The Dumais Collection - 57 Mtl Parkies

This card was purchased by Ebay ID card-buyer from Ebay seller PWCC as a PSA 8 for $3,427.07 on March 18, 2015.

Same card was sold by PWCC (Brent and Betsy Huigens) as a PSA 8.5 for $4,927.99 on December 20, 2015.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red box identifies trimmed left edge.

[pip]

Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

Information like this should be readily available, along with the fact that card doctors are more likely to target these cards.

I could publish a list of typical sizes and frequent size variations for all vintage cards across all the different sports but it would just provide a clearer roadmap for card molesters. I'd rather wait until the FBI investigation is completed.

[pip]

The UR and LR corners on the Henri Richard RC were also sharpened, probably through micro-trimming. That card, btw, is now quite valuable in a PSA 8.5 -- probably about 20k. Many BO members reading this thread may not realize that. It's one of the most popular rookie cards of the 1950s.

Edited to add: someone would have to be an idiot to ruin a well-centered "8" like that.

[corndog]

Been a while since I looked for cards from Katz and Co.
The cert #'s that begin with 442 were sold by PWCC after they were outed as trimmers.

PSA Cert #44293703

1971 O-Pee-Chee Barclay Plager #66

Value gain of $67.44

Set Registry: none

This card was purchased by masked Ebay ID e***c (irvinecardco) from Ebay seller PWCC as a PSA 8.5 for $8.00 on October 28, 2018.

Same card was sold by PWCC (Brent and Betsy Huigens) as a PSA 9 for $75.44 on January 26, 2021.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red box identifies trimmed bottom edge.

[corndog]

PSA Cert #44293705

1965 Topps Bobby Hull #59

Value gain of $184.01

Set Registry: Sportcardguy

This card was purchased by masked Ebay ID e***c (irvinecardco) from Ebay seller gregmorriscards as a PSA 8 for $216.50 on March 04, 2019.

Same card was sold by PWCC (Brent and Betsy Huigens) as a PSA 9 for $400.51 on November 24, 2019.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red box identifies trimmed left edge.

[pspa123]

BODA lives!!

[pip]

That 1971-72 OPC Plager is comical....like there could ever be that type of rough cut on the top edge and a perfectly smooth cut like that on the bottom edge.

Rich Katz and co. were complete set-registry phonies. I think that's why Joe Orlando loved them so much, gave them awards, and graciously graded all of their trimmed cards. So good to see Orlando gone and Sloan relocated. Talk about layer upon layer of corruption.

[corndog]

PSA Cert #44293697

1963 Parkhurst Parker Macdonald #44

Value gain of $216.00

Set Registry: TheSpiffDog

This card was purchased by masked Ebay ID e***c (irvinecardco) from Ebay seller kyshasports as a PSA 9 for $85.00 on March 29, 2019.

Same card was sold by PWCC (Brent and Betsy Huigens) as a PSA 10 for $301.00 on November 24, 2019.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red boxes identify trimmed left and right edges.
I uses scans of the PSA 9 from an earlier sale which were sharper.

[corndog]

PSA Cert #44293696

1963 Parkhurst Red Berenson #26

Value gain of $478.01

Set Registry: TheSpiffDog

This card was purchased by masked Ebay ID e***c (irvinecardco) from Ebay seller kyshasports as a PSA 8 for $74.99 on March 27, 2019.

Same card was sold by PWCC (Brent and Betsy Huigens) as a PSA 10 for $553.00 on November 24, 2019.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red box identifies trimmed bottom edge.
kyshasports uses awful scans yet I was still able to confirm it's the same card.

[pip]

The trimming aside, that UL corner on the PSA 10 Berenson is really worked over: pressed, reshaped...etc. Not even close to gem mint condition.

[DragonWagon]

Added these and all of the cards in this thread to the list of over 4,400 cards that have been altered, mislabeled, or faked. https://www.tiffanycards.com/buyer-beware

[corndog]

PSA Cert #44293675

1959 Parkhurst Dickie Moore #14

Value gain of $1,426.00

Set Registry: Steve’s 59 set

This card was purchased by masked Ebay ID e***c (irvinecardco) from Ebay seller probstein123 as a PSA 8 for $61.00 on May 16, 2019.

Same card was sold by PWCC (Brent and Betsy Huigens) as a PSA 10 for $1,487.00 on January 26, 2021.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red box identifies trimmed bottom edge.
The left and right edges are also trimmed.

[Vintage CC]

Not surprised that many of these recent cards were certified by PSA after the trimming scandal broke in April/May 2019 with that '52 Mantle from Astrotrevor.

[corndog]

Originally Posted by Vintage CC

Not surprised that many of these recent cards were certified by PSA after the trimming scandal broke in April/May 2019 with that '52 Mantle from Astrotrevor.

They were also all sold by PWCC after it was known that almost all of Katz and Co. altered cards were dumped on the market via PWCC.

Remember, Scot Maxwell was a former PSA grader and Katz and Co. headquarters were a 15 minute drive from PSA headquarters.
It would be interesting to see who the grader was for Katz and Co. submissions.


These were additional PSA 10's from the same submission that I either could not find a before sale of or I could find a sale but the images were too poor a quality to use as proof.

#44293684 - sold for $366.00



#44293686 - no record of sale



#44293687 - sold for $426.00



#44293690 - sold for $331.89



#44293698 - sold for $363.89



#44293701 - sold for $2,938.88 (could not find prior purchase)

[pip]

I see lots of chopped edges on those Parkhursts. It's not hard to see...except if you were a PSA grader.