Marco Luciano Thoughts

Zavey1275 · 01-09-2022, 12:21 AM

Luciano is a guy that is super intriguing. He played really well first coming to the states and then struggled last year in his promotion to high A. One thing is he was youngest player in the league. Anyone have any recent info on him or thoughts on his ceiling or call up?

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Biohazarddfl · 01-09-2022, 12:25 AM

I feel like he had a really, really bad run at A+ this year. 37% k rate and 6 extra base hits in 145 plate appearances. Obviously, he is very young and has the talent to turn that around.

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Zavey1275 · 01-09-2022, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Biohazarddfl

I feel like he had a really, really bad run at A+ this year. 37% k rate and 6 extra base hits in 145 plate appearances. Obviously, he is very young and has the talent to turn that around.

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I agree. He definitely didn’t play well. Didn’t realize he was striking out at such a high clip. Do you know if he was chasing or just unlucky at times

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Biohazarddfl · 01-09-2022, 12:36 AM

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I agree. He definitely didn’t play well. Didn’t realize he was striking out at such a high clip. Do you know if he was chasing or just unlucky at times

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I'm not really sure. Going purely off of his babip, he was not really lucky or unlucky. Just couldn't make solid contact.

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Zavey1275 · 01-09-2022, 12:39 AM

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I'm not really sure. Going purely off of his babip, he was not really lucky or unlucky. Just couldn't make solid contact.

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That’s crazy. His babip increased almost 60 points after his promotion yet we saw such a severe average decrease. Really highlights his strikeouts. Makes me think if he lowers those next year what his stats could shoot up to

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Hail2TheVictors · 01-09-2022, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Biohazarddfl

I feel like he had a really, really bad run at A+ this year. 37% k rate and 6 extra base hits in 145 plate appearances. Obviously, he is very young and has the talent to turn that around.

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This is very common when guys are bumped from Low A to Hi A.

To only comment about his Hi A numbers doesn't tell a fair story...at all. He had a very good run in Low A - overall, he had a successful season.

ThoseBackPages · 01-09-2022, 01:17 AM

i am a fan

holygrail22 · 01-09-2022, 01:29 AM

He has the tools to be an absolute superstar, and the kind that people become a major fan of because his best ability will be hitting. He has started slow at every level (and even at the alt site in 2020 according to some reports) before catching fire, so I think given time in 2022 he will rip through Hi-A and into the upper minors, leading up to a debut sometime in 2023. He has a little more risk than your average prospect with that K-rate but he is a legit 60 hit and 60 power guy at 19 - those are as rare as they come

holygrail22 · 01-09-2022, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

This is very common when guys are bumped from Low A to Hi A.

To only comment about his Hi A numbers doesn't tell a fair story...at all. He had a very good run in Low A - overall, he had a successful season.

Lo-A to Hi-A does not get enough credit for how difficult the transition is. I think a lot of people just see them both as A ball and assume the transition isn't too bad, but I've seen several prospect evaluators and former players call it out as the most difficult transition in the minors

roush16racing · 01-09-2022, 02:57 AM

Now for something totally random, and almost ironic. He was born on September 10, 2001.

rwperu34 · 01-09-2022, 05:17 AM

My only comment is he's defensively challenged. A LF or 1B sooner rather than later.

I'm not as sold on his year as some of the above posters due to him being in the Cal League for 2/3 of his PA, but it wasn't a disaster either. The swing looks good and he's got a physique that can add a lot of pounds of muscle going forward. As noted he was 19 years old in A+ ball, so he's got youth working for him. Good chance he sees AA in the 2nd half of next year at 20.

Card wise I would have expected his prices to come down a little but instead they were up 25-30%, right in line with the overall market.

hammertime · 01-09-2022, 05:23 AM

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Now for something totally random, and almost ironic. He was born on September 10, 2001.

"Ironic" how?

Hope to see him in person in Richmond soon.

Bambino22 · 01-09-2022, 08:52 AM

That exit velocity and power! I'm all in!

Robles Fan · 01-09-2022, 09:03 AM

I'm not so sure about him. If I was still so strongly vested in prospecting then my gut would rather side with someone like Julio Rodriguez instead.

rwperu34 · 01-10-2022, 12:37 AM

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I'm not so sure about him. If I was still so strongly vested in prospecting then my gut would rather side with someone like Julio Rodriguez instead.

Your gut and the market's gut is on the same page. The hobby rates JRod's talent at about 2.5x that of Luciano.

ThoseBackPages · 01-10-2022, 12:39 AM

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I'm not so sure about him. If I was still so strongly vested in prospecting then my gut would rather side with someone like Julio Rodriguez instead.

to be fair, your gut said go with Robles

Robles Fan · 01-10-2022, 12:46 AM

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to be fair, your gut said go with Robles

Haha ��.. Ah touché. I’ve been meaning to change my username but haven’t gotten around to figuring out how.

01-09-2022, 12:21 AM	#1
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rwperu34 Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 8,383	My only comment is he's defensively challenged. A LF or 1B sooner rather than later. I'm not as sold on his year as some of the above posters due to him being in the Cal League for 2/3 of his PA, but it wasn't a disaster either. The swing looks good and he's got a physique that can add a lot of pounds of muscle going forward. As noted he was 19 years old in A+ ball, so he's got youth working for him. Good chance he sees AA in the 2nd half of next year at 20. Card wise I would have expected his prices to come down a little but instead they were up 25-30%, right in line with the overall market. __________________ Me: Did I win? Gixen: Yes. You won. Now you're broke.

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Bambino22 Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: NoVA Posts: 2,570	That exit velocity and power! I'm all in! __________________ I collect Juan Soto, Yordan Alvarez, and Marco Luciano. Looking for Yordan Alvarez /5 2020 Sterling Auto.

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Biohazarddfl Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 2,294 chrisfl_cards_on_ig ChrisinFlorida	I feel like he had a really, really bad run at A+ this year. 37% k rate and 6 extra base hits in 145 plate appearances. Obviously, he is very young and has the talent to turn that around. Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

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holygrail22 Member Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: Houston Posts: 281 22holygrail22	He has the tools to be an absolute superstar, and the kind that people become a major fan of because his best ability will be hitting. He has started slow at every level (and even at the alt site in 2020 according to some reports) before catching fire, so I think given time in 2022 he will rip through Hi-A and into the upper minors, leading up to a debut sometime in 2023. He has a little more risk than your average prospect with that K-rate but he is a legit 60 hit and 60 power guy at 19 - those are as rare as they come

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roush16racing Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 624 roush16penske22	Now for something totally random, and almost ironic. He was born on September 10, 2001.

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Robles Fan Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Northern VA Posts: 730	I'm not so sure about him. If I was still so strongly vested in prospecting then my gut would rather side with someone like Julio Rodriguez instead.