Wander Franco Rookie Card Debate (2021 Bowman's Best vs. 2022 RC logo cards) - Page 42

towerymt · 01-10-2022, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SaveMeTheGum

Lol, so this is Jasson Dominguez's rookie even though he hasn't played past A ball? It can't be both. It can't be a random numbering error AND a deliberate base rookie issue. Seems much todo about nothing...

1991 Topps Chipper Jones

lemmer · 01-10-2022, 12:30 AM

SaveMeTheGum · 01-10-2022, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by towerymt

1991 Topps Chipper Jones

25 and 30 year old comps aren’t helping the argument. 1991 and 1995 were in a completely different era.

ThoseBackPages · 01-10-2022, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SaveMeTheGum

25 and 30 year old comps aren’t helping the argument. 1991 and 1995 were in a completely different era.

what does era matter?

we are talking about Rookie Cards here

ThoseBackPages · 01-10-2022, 01:04 AM

look, there is nothing wrong with picking the blue pill.
millions of folks are and certainly will when the 2022 stuff comes out

redauto5 · 01-10-2022, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

look, there is nothing wrong with picking the blue pill.
millions of folks are and certainly will when the 2022 stuff comes out

Yep, the blue pillers are and will be legion. That's always the case when the red pill choice is given. Perhaps more will choose the red as time goes on.

I used your graphic to make a post in a hobby Facebook group - I'm sure some here have seen it. Doing what I can to give those folks a choice at the red, but it's up to them in the end.

"This is the end (of 30 Rookie Cards)
My only friend, the end."
- Jim Morrison

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cardsin47 · 01-10-2022, 01:49 AM

Holy Crap! For an entire week, the #1 Thread on BO has been debating what a Rookie Card is……. can’t wait ‘till next week, when the “what’s a Wax Box” thread debuts

ThoseBackPages · 01-10-2022, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by redauto5

Yep, the blue pillers are and will be legion. That's always the case when the red pill choice is given. Perhaps more will choose the red as time goes on.

I used your graphic to make a post in a hobby Facebook group - I'm sure some here have seen it. Doing what I can to give those folks a choice at the red, but it's up to them in the end.

"This is the end (of 30 Rookie Cards)
My only friend, the end."
- Jim Morrison

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Spread the word Brother, this is just begun!

ThoseBackPages · 01-10-2022, 02:07 AM

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Holy Crap! For an entire week, the #1 Thread on BO has been debating what a Rookie Card is……. can’t wait ‘till next week, when the “what’s a Wax Box” thread debuts

im surprised you missed out on 2021 BBest Wax!

SaveMeTheGum · 01-10-2022, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

what does era matter?

we are talking about Rookie Cards here

Because other eras didn’t have a litany of prospect and draft cards, followed by noted Rookie cards.

Robles Fan · 01-10-2022, 07:04 AM

I still don’t get what singles out Wander’s 2021 Bowman’s Best “RC” from, say, his 2021 Topps Now “Call Up” and 2021 Bowman Transcendent cards. If his Bowman’s Best can technically be designated as his “RC” then so should those other cards for pretty much the same reasons - they are both included in the base set and mixed in together side by side with other veteran/rookie players under the same checklists. Or is there something else that I’m missing?

cardsin47 · 01-10-2022, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Robles Fan

I still don’t get what singles out Wander’s 2021 Bowman’s Best “RC” from, say, his 2021 Topps Now “Call Up” and 2021 Bowman Transcendent cards. If his Bowman’s Best can technically be designated as his “RC” then so should those other cards for pretty much the same reasons - they are both included in the base set and mixed in together side by side with veteran players under the same checklists.

Follow the money —- someone or someones wants it to be promoted as such, due to their own stash of the product? There’re few other reason to push the agenda so hard……

oldgoldy97 · 01-10-2022, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Robles Fan

I still don’t get what singles out Wander’s 2021 Bowman’s Best “RC” from, say, his 2021 Topps Now “Call Up” and 2021 Bowman Transcendent cards. If his Bowman’s Best can technically be designated as his “RC” then so should those other cards for pretty much the same reasons - they are both included in the base set and mixed in together side by side with other veteran/rookie players under the same checklists. Or is there something else that I’m missing?

Have you read the definition of what a rookie card is that have been posted multiple times throughout this thread? If you haven’t, start looking.

oldgoldy97 · 01-10-2022, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by cardsin47

Follow the money —- someone or someones wants it to be promoted as such, due to their own stash of the product. There’s no other reason to push the agenda so hard……

Nothing to do with money. Everything to do with rules.

cardsin47 · 01-10-2022, 07:23 AM

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Nothing to do with money. Everything to do with rules.

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hammertime · 01-10-2022, 07:29 AM

I guess I missed the part about this also being the RC of the prospects like Torkelson etc...for some reason I assumed you had to have already made your MLB debut. So that seems insane to me. Shrug.

SaveMeTheGum · 01-10-2022, 07:38 AM

I can't imagine a "rookie card" with no stat line on the back. That's kinda important in the baseball card world. I guess there could be another example of one, but I can't think of any. To me, that's just a prospect card/insert.

BigL7370 · 01-10-2022, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by hammertime

I guess I missed the part about this also being the RC of the prospects like Torkelson etc...for some reason I assumed you had to have already made your MLB debut. So that seems insane to me. Shrug.

If you are a player and your first card appears in a big league set and is numbered as such, the card is still considered a rookie card regardless of whether a player actually reaches the big leagues or not.

Pacmeyer · 01-10-2022, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by cardsin47

Follow the money —- someone or someones wants it to be promoted as such, due to their own stash of the product. There’s no other reason to push the agenda so hard……

Yes, follow the $$$$$... but you're barking up the wrong tree.

Someone got smacked in the back of the head with a curveball. It's just not who or what you think.

cardsin47 · 01-10-2022, 07:57 AM

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Yes, follow the $$$$$... but you're barking up the wrong tree.

Someone got smacked in the back of the head with a curveball. It's just not who or what you think.

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theshowandme · 01-10-2022, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SaveMeTheGum

I can't imagine a "rookie card" with no stat line on the back. That's kinda important in the baseball card world. I guess there could be another example of one, but I can't think of any. To me, that's just a prospect card/insert.

oldgoldy97 · 01-10-2022, 08:06 AM

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But that’s before 2005, when this strange RC symbol that’s put on every freaking card depicting a rookie came into existence!

tedwilliamsfan · 01-10-2022, 08:09 AM

Here's a couple of nice RC cards. "RC" Logo be damned, I want their first cards:

2016 Rome Braves Ronald Acuna
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2018 Princeton Rays Wander Franco
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hammertime · 01-10-2022, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BigL7370

If you are a player and your first card appears in a big league set and is numbered as such, the card is still considered a rookie card regardless of whether a player actually reaches the big leagues or not.

Yeah I understand, I just missed that part, I guess because Wander has been dominating the discussion.

oldgoldy97 · 01-10-2022, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tedwilliamsfan

Here's a couple of nice RC cards. "RC" Logo be damned, I want their first cards:

2016 Rome Braves Ronald Acuna
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2018 Princeton Rays Wander Franco
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Great examples! Super mainstream sets, those two.

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Robles Fan Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Northern VA Posts: 730	I still don’t get what singles out Wander’s 2021 Bowman’s Best “RC” from, say, his 2021 Topps Now “Call Up” and 2021 Bowman Transcendent cards. If his Bowman’s Best can technically be designated as his “RC” then so should those other cards for pretty much the same reasons - they are both included in the base set and mixed in together side by side with other veteran/rookie players under the same checklists. Or is there something else that I’m missing? Last edited by Robles Fan; 01-10-2022 at 07:07 AM.

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SaveMeTheGum Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NH --> CA --> SC Posts: 16,887 Cardboard_Dynamite CardboardDynamite	I can't imagine a "rookie card" with no stat line on the back. That's kinda important in the baseball card world. I guess there could be another example of one, but I can't think of any. To me, that's just a prospect card/insert. __________________ Pay fast. Ship fast. Deal with people honestly. IG: CardboardDynamite Last edited by SaveMeTheGum; 01-10-2022 at 07:43 AM.

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01-10-2022, 07:29 AM	#1041
hammertime Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: OH->MI->MD->VA Posts: 7,002	I guess I missed the part about this also being the RC of the prospects like Torkelson etc...for some reason I assumed you had to have already made your MLB debut. So that seems insane to me. Shrug.

01-10-2022, 08:09 AM	#1048
tedwilliamsfan Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Chicago Suburbs Posts: 2,530 jimihendrixfan	Here's a couple of nice RC cards. "RC" Logo be damned, I want their first cards: 2016 Rome Braves Ronald Acuna [IMG][/IMG] 2018 Princeton Rays Wander Franco [IMG][/IMG] __________________ I collect Michael Jordan, 1950's Willie Mays PSA, and Pokemon cards.