Official Tom Brady RC Price Tracker

[Kingofkings1281]

Man, this thread gets worse by the day.

[wigglestrue]

Originally Posted by Zauron

Lol fan pressure? No, it's not fan pressure to sign a contract with Topps or Upper Deck or Panini. It's money, and they do it for the money because of how fast some of them spend the millions they already earn.

How much is the average autographing contract? And how does that compare to their salaries and other way, way easier endorsement contracts? You think they need autograph money THAT bad? You don't think they all have financial advisors now who keep their money safe?

And you act like these athletes have such limited time. They can easily fit time here and there to sign these stickers and cards, and be done with it. They don't sign all this stuff at once, it's multiple times and probably over the course of a season if they are active. If they don't want to do it, they don't. Easy as that, heck Mookie Betts has zero autographs since 2014 I believe.

You think professional athletes have a lot of free time, lol. Wow. How long have you been following sports?

I'll ask again: How many autographs does an average player contractually sign per year? All items, not just cards. But the cards-only number would be good to know, too. Then we can estimate the total number of hours of signing done per player per year.

No carpal tunnel injuries, I see further down the thread...right. I wonder why. Can't get carpal tunnel if you're not the one doing the signing. Maybe Mookie stopped because he didn't want to participate in what he considered an unethical system of ghost-signing?

Mookie is the wave of the future. Also, why do you think he stopped, even if we're assuming it wasn't because most autos are forged now and assuming that players really are signing alone out of sight for hours. Do you not think other players would feel the same way he does? Do you not think maybe they hate it? Do you, as a fan, enjoy forcing players to do stuff they hate?

Yes, an in person autograph on a helmet/jersey is more meaningful and awesome, but a lot of times we don't have that luxury.

An in-person auto on a card is more meaningful and awesome, too, and yet hobbyists have put things bass-ackwards, and now these robotically mass-autographed in isolation autos are more valuable, because they're "certified", whatever that means...as if the authenticators could ever know.

If you don't have the luxury to meet them in person for an autograph, uhhh...too bad? Have you considered, you know, like...NOT CARING about getting their signatures if you're not actually there? When you look at an auto card nowadays, do you not instantly imagine the player sitting alone and resenting you, the fan, for making him do that? Autographs use to serve that purpose, a memento that would recall the moment you met the player. Now they recall the moment you annoyed and exploited a player. Is that the secret underlying appeal? A token that represents the brief time you controlled the player, imposed your will on a famous athlete, subjected a millionaire to belittling tedious work?

I can understand why my comments might trigger some resentment. If this meme gets going, and the worst case scenario is taken seriously, then it might cost a lot of collectors many thousands of dollars. And if fans ever decided en masse to stop demanding autos, and if players all stopped, then dealers would lose many thousands or even millions, since autos now drive the market, fuel box rips, etc. Oh well. Tough.

[Kingofkings1281]

What in the living hell did I just read? I guess I should be writing an apology note to Tom Brady for my autographed cards that he probably didn’t sign…

[iwinsnatch]

Originally Posted by Kingofkings1281

Man, this thread gets worse by the day.

You can say that again.

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by Kingofkings1281

What in the living hell did I just read? I guess I should be writing an apology note to Tom Brady for my autographed cards that he probably didn’t sign…

I’m surprised you actually read it, by the length of it, I just passed lol

[wigglestrue]

Oh no, I posted "a lot of words" again, lmao. I guess since the demand for hours of mass robotic autographs from players is based in thoughtlessness, I shouldn't be surprised that some auto-hungry collectors don't like reading lots of words or thinking lots of thoughts.

Here, I'll get back "on topic", okay?

Low-end Brady rookies are holding strong.

[Kingofkings1281]

Originally Posted by wigglestrue

Oh no, I posted "a lot of words" again, lmao. I guess since the demand for hours of mass robotic autographs from players is based in thoughtlessness, I shouldn't be surprised that some auto-hungry collectors don't like reading lots of words or thinking lots of thoughts.

Here, I'll get back "on topic", okay?

Low-end Brady rookies are holding strong.

I guess I’m just a little upset that Tom resents me for being locked in a room signing autographs like a robot at will…

[6GOAT789]

For the people that have been collecting Brady for a long time and complain about posts here…just curious, if you’re not selling, why do you check here everyday?

Every few weeks I could see keeping up with what’s going on, but daily…?

[deemsterz33]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

For the people that have been collecting Brady for a long time and complain about posts here…just curious, if you’re not selling, why do you check here everyday?

Every few weeks I could see keeping up with what’s going on, but daily…?

Did you eat paint chips as a kid?

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by deemsterz33

Did you eat paint chips as a kid?

Ah yes, here we have a prime example. Have fun checking here every single day, I’m sure you’ll learn so much

[deemsterz33]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

Ah yes, here we have a prime example. Have fun checking here every single day, I’m sure you’ll learn so much

Let's see those Bradys kid!

Crickets.....

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by deemsterz33

Let's see those Bradys kid!

Crickets.....

That’ll prove what exactly?

Every post from then on is valid?

If you want to waste your time every single day on here then go ahead.

What exactly do you add here that’s so valuable?

[jcard71]

I miss the old days of this thread…��

[wigglestrue]

Originally Posted by Kingofkings1281

I guess I’m just a little upset that Tom resents me for being locked in a room signing autographs like a robot at will…

You think you're being sarcastic, lol.

"Honey, I know this is my day off, but I have a duty to reward my biggest fans, all those collectors and dealers who want me to write my name 1000 times in a row so that their cards are more valuable. I'll have to give you a raincheck on the nookie, these people are really important to me."

THAT, is sarcasm.

Yes, I would bet 1000 dollars that Brady hates your guts, sorry.

Alternatively...

"Huh? No, sweetie, I'm not tied up, let's go have fun. Those cards on the table are being couriered to the forger at noon, I haven't signed one of those damn things in 10 years. Nah, don't worry, they'll never suspect it, they're so blinded by greed that they can't even form a rational thought anymore, if they ever did."

Oops, too many words again. My fault, here ya go:

Brady good, autos good, thinking bad.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by jcard71

I miss the old days of this thread…��

You could go to Non-sports where there is an argument about why Spider-Man is better than Tom Brady...yes, you read that right...hahaha

[2010GBPackers]

Ironmonkey?

[matt65]

Uhh anyways, here’s a rookie card not seen too often. Ultimate Victory Parallel /100. Number 69.




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[jplarson]

Originally Posted by matt65

Uhh anyways, here’s a rookie card not seen too often. Ultimate Victory Parallel /100. Number 69.

Nice.

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by matt65

Uhh anyways, here’s a rookie card not seen too often. Ultimate Victory Parallel /100. Number 69.




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Always liked those.

Everyone please stop responding to the trolls. You're only giving them what they want.

[Kingofkings1281]

Originally Posted by wigglestrue

You think you're being sarcastic, lol.

"Honey, I know this is my day off, but I have a duty to reward my biggest fans, all those collectors and dealers who want me to write my name 1000 times in a row so that their cards are more valuable. I'll have to give you a raincheck on the nookie, these people are really important to me."

THAT, is sarcasm.

Yes, I would bet 1000 dollars that Brady hates your guts, sorry.

Alternatively...

"Huh? No, sweetie, I'm not tied up, let's go have fun. Those cards on the table are being couriered to the forger at noon, I haven't signed one of those damn things in 10 years. Nah, don't worry, they'll never suspect it, they're so blinded by greed that they can't even form a rational thought anymore, if they ever did."

Oops, too many words again. My fault, here ya go:

Brady good, autos good, thinking bad.

It’s not too many words. It’s just the way you’ve strung together those words happen to be some of the absolute stupidest #@#@#@#@ that I’ve ever read. You also might need to seek mental help.

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by wigglestrue

You think you're being sarcastic, lol.

"Honey, I know this is my day off, but I have a duty to reward my biggest fans, all those collectors and dealers who want me to write my name 1000 times in a row so that their cards are more valuable. I'll have to give you a raincheck on the nookie, these people are really important to me."

THAT, is sarcasm.

Yes, I would bet 1000 dollars that Brady hates your guts, sorry.

Alternatively...

"Huh? No, sweetie, I'm not tied up, let's go have fun. Those cards on the table are being couriered to the forger at noon, I haven't signed one of those damn things in 10 years. Nah, don't worry, they'll never suspect it, they're so blinded by greed that they can't even form a rational thought anymore, if they ever did."

Oops, too many words again. My fault, here ya go:

Brady good, autos good, thinking bad.

[wigglestrue]

Still haven't seen an estimate of how many items per year per athlete get signed. Here's what Fanatics had Brady sign one day, just in terms of helmets. Looks to be about 2000 helmets in the photo. Probably more elsewhere. Not sure how many other items there were, like footballs and jerseys. Probably thousands more of each. The good news for auto fetishists: There's video of Brady signing some of them. He doesn't look particularly happy or unhappy in the press releases, but Brady is a seasoned pro at posing for cameras, so who knows.





If you were Brady, how much would you need to be paid to make all that worth it? Fanatics was selling each of those items for 3000 or so each. How much of that 3000 does Brady get per item? If it's at least 1000, let's say, then hey, maybe I've been wrong. Something like 5 million dollars for subjecting himself to that crap for a day would, indeed, be enticing. Kind of like those what-if/would-you masochistic hypotheticals people play. "Would you eat a bowl of dog turds for a million dollars? Okay, but what about five million dollars?" The average person is going to eat that bowl, probably for way less than a million, too. But then, Brady is not average. He's already earned upwards of 300 million dollars. His wife is worth even more. So why do that? For people that rich, time is more valuable than money. Perhaps he decided that a one-day sum that large was worth sacrificing a precious day with his family. I mean, that's necessarily what he decided. So, basically, autograph fiends collectively bribed Brady to skip a day of his life in order to spend several hours doing assembly line work. Like I asked before, is that part of the auto thrill now? Reversing the roles for a day and reducing Brady to the position of a common worker? If so, you should see how far it can go. Maybe if you pool together and pay him 10 or 20 million dollars, he'll agree to not see his kids for a whole weekend and to work the line at a shoe factory. I wonder how much power by proxy you could wield over him if you managed to offer him 100 million. Now we're talking really degrading scenarios. You could really punish him. Is that the point?

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by wigglestrue

Still haven't seen an estimate of how many items per year per athlete get signed. Here's what Fanatics had Brady sign one day, just in terms of helmets. Looks to be about 2000 helmets in the photo. Probably more elsewhere. Not sure how many other items there were, like footballs and jerseys. Probably thousands more of each. The good news for auto fetishists: There's video of Brady signing some of them. He doesn't look particularly happy or unhappy in the press releases, but Brady is a seasoned pro at posing for cameras, so who knows.





If you were Brady, how much would you need to be paid to make all that worth it? Fanatics was selling each of those items for 3000 or so each. How much of that 3000 does Brady get per item? If it's at least 1000, let's say, then hey, maybe I've been wrong. Something like 5 million dollars for subjecting himself to that crap for a day would, indeed, be enticing. Kind of like those what-if/would-you masochistic hypotheticals people play. "Would you eat a bowl of dog turds for a million dollars? Okay, but what about five million dollars?" The average person is going to eat that bowl, probably for way less than a million, too. But then, Brady is not average. He's already earned upwards of 300 million dollars. His wife is worth even more. So why do that? For people that rich, time is more valuable than money. Perhaps he decided that a one-day sum that large was worth sacrificing a precious day with his family. I mean, that's necessarily what he decided. So, basically, autograph fiends collectively bribed Brady to skip a day of his life in order to spend several hours doing assembly line work. Like I asked before, is that part of the auto thrill now? Reversing the roles for a day and reducing Brady to the position of a common worker? If so, you should see how far it can go. Maybe if you pool together and pay him 10 or 20 million dollars, he'll agree to not see his kids for a whole weekend and to work the line at a shoe factory. I wonder how much power by proxy you could wield over him if you managed to offer him 100 million. Now we're talking really degrading scenarios. You could really punish him. Is that the point?

Welcome back!

[6GOAT789]

Can we end the debate and agree that on card rookie autos are the best?

Signed obviously before he won his first ring, before it all.

Compared to whatever he signs now when it’s all been done already

Recently a press pass BGS Auto 10/8.5 went for just over $6,700.

A 10/9 I’m guessing would be around $10,000? Probably not that high, but should be

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

For the people that have been collecting Brady for a long time and complain about posts here…just curious, if you’re not selling, why do you check here everyday?

Every few weeks I could see keeping up with what’s going on, but daily…?

Umm..too discuss Tom Brady cards