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Old 02-18-2022, 01:17 PM   #51
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Its thought by many that MTP is actually one of the biggest flippers on this entire board! Snake in the weeds.
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Old 02-19-2022, 12:34 PM   #52
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Fun fact: If the item was listed above $500 with a BO and the sale price ends up below $500, it still goes through their authentication service.
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Old 02-19-2022, 12:43 PM   #53
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Fun fact: If the item was listed above $500 with a BO and the sale price ends up below $500, it still goes through their authentication service.

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Old 02-19-2022, 12:50 PM   #54
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I wonder if they will allow for the option to request grading on raw cards since they are passing through the same place.
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Old 02-19-2022, 04:53 PM   #55
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I was wondering if this was tied to AML concerns as well as authenticity issues? It pretty much validates that a transaction has taken place.
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Old 02-19-2022, 07:52 PM   #56
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I was wondering if this was tied to AML concerns as well as authenticity issues? It pretty much validates that a transaction has taken place.

Very interesting question - I could see it being real

Kind of like real auction houses needing to do AML/KYC… this is a compromise w/eBay?


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Old 02-20-2022, 01:18 AM   #57
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As soon as myslabs allows raw cards, I’m switching platforms for good.
this comment aged very well lol
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Old 02-20-2022, 03:20 AM   #58
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I was wondering if this was tied to AML concerns as well as authenticity issues? It pretty much validates that a transaction has taken place.
Well that's an interesting wrinkle... fascinating.
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Old 02-20-2022, 04:28 AM   #59
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It worked well for the BBCE on a 3.5 million case of Pokémon no doubt eBay is a much better authenticator? It’s all a joke…now eBay is employing card experts who are just as good as anyone else in the business. I thinks not… Thanks eBay…
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Old 02-20-2022, 02:32 PM   #60
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Card shops should step up and take advantage of this opportunity. A store with a good online market could clean up.
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Old 02-20-2022, 02:39 PM   #61
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I wonder if they will allow for the option to request grading on raw cards since they are passing through the same place.
100%. They sent out surveys asking if people would want/use this several months ago. I assume it's coming soon.
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Old 02-20-2022, 02:56 PM   #62
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Ok say Seller sells raw card to Buyer.

Seller has to ship card to eBay for authentication.

Card arrives safely at eBay.

eBay authenticates and ships card to the buyer.

Buyer opens it up to find damage to the card done by ebay.

Who's on the hook for the damage? Who has to refund the buyer? The seller or eBay?
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Old 02-20-2022, 03:09 PM   #63
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Ok say Seller sells raw card to Buyer.

Seller has to ship card to eBay for authentication.

Card arrives safely at eBay.

eBay authenticates and ships card to the buyer.

Buyer opens it up to find damage to the card done by ebay.

Who's on the hook for the damage? Who has to refund the buyer? The seller or eBay?

I have been told by multiple people including reps that once the card passes authentication, seller is in the clear and not responsible for damage. Buyer will not succeed with an INAD claim, or if they do attempt that, it’s ebays problem.

The only way a buyer can return for refund is if seller allows returns, then it’s all fair game for buyer to get refund with basically no reason at all.

Make of that what you will, just what I’ve been told. With conflicting info and lack of detailed, precise terms directly from eBay, I would still say nothing is 100% certain with this thing.
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Old 02-20-2022, 03:15 PM   #64
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I have been told by multiple people including reps that once the card passes authentication, seller is in the clear and not responsible for damage. Buyer will not succeed with an INAD claim, or if they do attempt that, it’s ebays problem.

The only way a buyer can return for refund is if seller allows returns, then it’s all fair game for buyer to get refund with basically no reason at all.

Make of that what you will, just what I’ve been told. With conflicting info and lack of detailed, precise terms directly from eBay, I would still say nothing is 100% certain with this thing.
What if all the buyers, start reporting damaged cards and then all of a sudden eBay is hit with refunding buyers for the cards. That could add up quickly.

Could the Buyer ever claim that the card never arrived, keep the card AND get eBay to refund their money? If so...scammers are gonna have a field day AND sellers will be off the hook right?
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Old 02-20-2022, 03:15 PM   #65
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But we’ll still remember you leaving negatives for shipping fees you agreed to.
LOL! Boom.
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Old 02-20-2022, 03:16 PM   #66
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I want financially secure sellers who sell high-end items and don’t need to charge shipping. But you need the extra couple of bucks per transaction to get by.
What an absolutely dumb take. Are you new to e-commerce?
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Old 02-20-2022, 03:23 PM   #67
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"snake in the weeds"

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Old 02-20-2022, 04:56 PM   #68
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Could the Buyer ever claim that the card never arrived, keep the card AND get eBay to refund their money? If so...scammers are gonna have a field day AND sellers will be off the hook right?
I highly doubt it. The claim of item not received would be contradicted by the delivery scan on tracking. Once it says delivered, buyer doesnt get to claim it didnt arrive. As for INAD, I've been told buyer dont have a leg to stand on once it passes authentication.

Maybe in the (hopefully rare) case of a clearly documented card out of the sleeve and visibly damaged on opening the package, like a few examples posted on here, could the buyer pursue some kind of recourse- but not with the seller. A seller who doesnt offer returns should be covered once it passes authentication.
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Old 02-21-2022, 06:39 PM   #69
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I recently sold a card for $2000 PSA graded do I assuming that I dont need to send to eBay first since it is graded by PSA? I will I received an email from ebay on what to do?
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I recently sold a card for $2000 PSA graded do I assuming that I dont need to send to eBay first since it is graded by PSA? I will I received an email from ebay on what to do?
If it's PSA graded it shouldnt be going through the Authenticity program. Graded cards are exempt. You'll know because for cards going through the program, the listed buyer address to send to will be a Sarasota, FL address where the cards are processed by CSG. If it's just the buyer's regular address, it's not going through the Authenticity program.
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Old 02-21-2022, 06:46 PM   #71
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I recently sold a card for $2000 PSA graded do I assuming that I dont need to send to eBay first since it is graded by PSA? I will I received an email from ebay on what to do?
Your card is PSA graded, so there's no need for eBay authentication.

eBay authentication is for raw (ungraded) cards
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Old 02-22-2022, 02:24 AM   #72
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I recently sold a card for $2000 PSA graded do I assuming that I dont need to send to eBay first since it is graded by PSA? I will I received an email from ebay on what to do?
Graded cards arent part of the program, yet.

Cards are sent to and authenticated by CSG, not ebay.
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Old 02-23-2022, 08:35 AM   #73
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And this is where it comes in handy.

And I asked the seller numerous times about the glossy front and the seller guaranteed that the card was Tiffany and legit. I would never buy a raw Tiffany if not for the authenticity thing. Been burned too many times.




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Old 02-23-2022, 08:45 AM   #74
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You don't. Your liability ends when the grading company receives that card and verifies it mint/authentic. It's similar to the Global Shipping Program. Once my card gets to Kentucky I'm done with it. If the card gets lost in Singapore 3 weeks later, eBay eats it, not me.
That hasn't been the case with me. Had an item ship to Kentucky, then 2 weeks later my International buyer opened a case on me as the item was never delivered. Ebay refunded his money, item was never found. International Post office said it was lost.
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Old 02-23-2022, 08:47 AM   #75
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I recently sold a card for $2000 PSA graded do I assuming that I dont need to send to eBay first since it is graded by PSA? I will I received an email from ebay on what to do?
They only care about raw cards because those are the ones they can upsale grading to you. No one is cracking a PSA/BGS/SGC for CSG.
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