eBay "Standard Envelope" Woes. Help? Advice? Complain With Me?

[Dbacksbaseball]

Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

Why don't YOU put your money where your mouth is and proudly display your ebay ID as well?

My ebay account is all over about 30 threads on this site. It wont take you long to find my account in good standing.

What do you have to hide? You throw out accusations and then crumble.

Has nothing to do with how many post. Has to do with involvement and what your posting. You post a metric ton while providing little...I mean you are whining about getting charged $2.25 for a PWE on items you actively know are shipping PWE. I cant wait for more epic insights such as...

Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

2022 Topps Series 1 is on fire. Almost proves that Beckett is becoming irrelevant.

Beckett Irrelevant......riveting, breaking news. Thanks for your valuable inputs here.

[rwperu34]

Originally Posted by JeffG1954

I'm a little curious as to the use of the #10 envelopes. Is that so you can put 2 top loaders or semi-rigids side by side to fit more cards when necessary? I have always used the #6 3/4 letter size.

This is when/why I use them, but my go to is the #6 3/4.

[SteigerWRX]

And here we go again....

After the suggestion of everybody else in the thread, I removed the cardboard and this STILL happened. These are just a single top loader in a regular envelope. This program and my post office are so ridiculous. Flagged and sent back to me for an additional $0.10.



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[SteigerWRX]

I find it so hard that I'm the only one dealing with this issue at this magnitude.

This program was specifically designed for mailing sports trading cards in top loaders. There's nothing I can do to make them any less rigid than that. What are the chances that it's just my three local post offices that have no idea how this program works. I have made sure that these envelopes meet all the requirements of this program.

The frustration is even worse because going down there again to try to speak to whoever is in charge regarding this still in no way guarantees this won't happen again. For those of you who work for the post office, who is kicking these back? How does the process of flagging these and returning them to me work?

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[PapaStu]

Originally Posted by SteigerWRX

I find it so hard that I'm the only one dealing with this issue at this magnitude.

This program was specifically designed for mailing sports trading cards in top loaders. There's nothing I can do to make them any less rigid than that. What are the chances that it's just my three local post offices that have no idea how this program works. I have made sure that these envelopes meet all the requirements of this program.

The frustration is even worse because going down there again to try to speak to whoever is in charge regarding this still in no way guarantees this won't happen again. For those of you who work for the post office, who is kicking these back? How does the process of flagging these and returning them to me work?

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A number of the PWE's i've gotten from eBay via sellers using this shipping method have been wrapped in a single piece of printer/binder paper. It's no rigid wall, but that plus the occasional one in that really thin cardboard stock (like what those metallic shiny stickers come wrapped in via those $.50 vending machines of our youth) have kept the cards i've bought safe enough so far.

[rwperu34]

Originally Posted by SteigerWRX

I find it so hard that I'm the only one dealing with this issue at this magnitude.

This program was specifically designed for mailing sports trading cards in top loaders. There's nothing I can do to make them any less rigid than that. What are the chances that it's just my three local post offices that have no idea how this program works. I have made sure that these envelopes meet all the requirements of this program.

The frustration is even worse because going down there again to try to speak to whoever is in charge regarding this still in no way guarantees this won't happen again. For those of you who work for the post office, who is kicking these back? How does the process of flagging these and returning them to me work?

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You have to wonder what formula they come up with that you owe 10¢? Like what postage cost exactly $1.03? If you're under 1 oz, even with the nonmachinable stamp it would only be 83¢ and you paid 93¢.

Who put non machinable on there? If it was them, that's no bueno. If it was you that could be the problem. I had one come in with 20¢ due where the guy wrote do not bend all over it. That's the only thing I could think of because everything else was good.

What does that 38 mean on the lower right corner?

There is one option that is less rigid than a toplaoder...a Card Saver.

Another option might be to try a PO on the other side of town and see what happens. If you can isolate it to your local PO it might be easier (lol) to address the issue. If it's the main PO you've possibly got a serious problem.

[SteigerWRX]

Originally Posted by rwperu34

You have to wonder what formula they come up with that you owe 10¢? Like what postage cost exactly $1.03? If you're under 1 oz, even with the nonmachinable stamp it would only be 83¢ and you paid 93¢.

Who put non machinable on there? If it was them, that's no bueno. If it was you that could be the problem. I had one come in with 20¢ due where the guy wrote do not bend all over it. That's the only thing I could think of because everything else was good.

What does that 38 mean on the lower right corner?

There is one option that is less rigid than a toplaoder...a Card Saver.

Another option might be to try a PO on the other side of town and see what happens. If you can isolate it to your local PO it might be easier (lol) to address the issue. If it's the main PO you've possibly got a serious problem.

They stamped them non-machinable, not me. Thats exactly how they arrived in my mailbox today. I have 3 post offices within a 20 minute drive to me. All 3 have now sent them back to me.

[ChrisNTx]

I've used card savers taped to thin cardboard and wrapped in a piece of paper before putting in envelope. To my knowledge, havent had any additional postage due for my buyers as none have reached out to me.

Handful have never shown up, but out of over 300 ive shipped, that happens.

I dont put toploaders in these as it seems those are the ones getting kicked back - you might try the wrap in paper before putting in envelope as that may be the key to help these slide through machines in sorting centers?

[RaceDog]

Originally Posted by SteigerWRX

And here we go again....

After the suggestion of everybody else in the thread, I removed the cardboard and this STILL happened. These are just a single top loader in a regular envelope. This program and my post office are so ridiculous. Flagged and sent back to me for an additional $0.10.



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That looks thicker than a 1 card toploader

[Swipe79]

I ship every single card order in a toploader inside a Kraft 4X6 Envelope (they cost a little more but are a little thicker) and pay .53 for 1 oz. I had one issue with a PO in the city nearby but zero issues otherwise.

Your problem may be that you're putting 3 oz. on the stamp and they are handling each envelope (stamping it, etc.) instead of just having it go through the sorting machine. It could also be the reason they are asking for additional postage, even if it weighs less. You are marking it as a 3 oz. package, so they assume it's a 3 oz. item and are wanting the funds for that.

[jhssketchcards]

They suck. I started using them middle last year and never had a single item not show tracking or delivered in years. All of sudden, 10 items out of 40 showed no tracking updates and I had to refund all of them because the buyer said they didn’t get them. Of course it’s also nice when eBay sends the high rates for not delivered or late message. Screw eBay. I’ve slowly started taking my stuff down from them. They rarely take the side of sellers anymore and it’s not worth it considering the fees.


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[SteigerWRX]

Originally Posted by RaceDog

That looks thicker than a 1 card toploader

Definitely isn't. Was a standard thickness jersey card.

[RL 1953]

Originally Posted by SteigerWRX

Definitely isn't. Was a standard thickness jersey card.

Envelope requirements
No smaller than 3.5” x 5”
No larger than 6.125” x 11.5”
No thicker than .25”
Weighs up to 3 oz.

[webersfsc]

I had to stand in line at the post office the other day and the clerk reached into my bin and told me "you know these aren't machineable right?" Standard 35 point cards in card saver ii with a piece of paper around it in a normal white envelope. I was like "uhh well these are the Ebay tracking have you seen them?" "yes we send them back postage due." "well i've been doing this for months and i've never had that issue before." "you will."

[RaceDog]

Originally Posted by SteigerWRX

Definitely isn't. Was a standard thickness jersey card.

Jersey card if thin like Major league material card….only in a card saver. The top loaders for that thickness have too thick/ rigid of a bottom to be sent in PWE. If thicker….forget PWE.

[RaceDog]

Originally Posted by webersfsc

I had to stand in line at the post office the other day and the clerk reached into my bin and told me "you know these aren't machineable right?" Standard 35 point cards in card saver ii with a piece of paper around it in a normal white envelope. I was like "uhh well these are the Ebay tracking have you seen them?" "yes we send them back postage due." "well i've been doing this for months and i've never had that issue before." "you will."

How many cards?

Sounds like the postal employee at your local PO is misinformed.

You can safely send 4 standard cards in a PWE…use 2 card savers with 2 cards in each card saver. You could probably get away with a couple of more, but I don’t chance it.

Thickness is only part of the equation….it can’t be too rigid either as it needs to go through the sorting equipment.

[HunterConnorMom]

Originally Posted by SteigerWRX

Definitely isn't. Was a standard thickness jersey card.

Information on non machinable mail surcharges is here:
https://faq.usps.com/s/article/What-...rst-Class-Mail

Within the link above, click Postal Price Calculator to determine if your envelope will be classified as non machinable.

[AwesomeBrian]

Another 30 cent postage due today. Seller used the .53 option. PO Clerk says they are treating them as non-machinable so sellers need to use the .93 option

[SteigerWRX]

Originally Posted by AwesomeBrian

Another 30 cent postage due today. Seller used the .53 option. PO Clerk says they are treating them as non-machinable so sellers need to use the .93 option

My picture above shows that was a lie lol

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[rman112]

Sounds like your PO sucks. But don't use the Standard Envelope for jersey cards. You're asking for it that way.

[rman112]

If you aren't that far from a different PO, it might be worth your while to drive there to drop them off.

[daaaaaaaaniel]

I've sent a bunch of cards using eBay standard envelope. I just got a message from a buyer. It's been 2 weeks and no movement on the tracking. This is my first time having any issues with this service. Do I ask the buyer to wait another week or 2? What do I do if the card never ships?

[towerymt]

Originally Posted by daaaaaaaaniel

I've sent a bunch of cards using eBay standard envelope. I just got a message from a buyer. It's been 2 weeks and no movement on the tracking. This is my first time having any issues with this service. Do I ask the buyer to wait another week or 2? What do I do if the card never ships?

I would ask the buyer to confirm that he/she never received the card. Basically to get your documentation in order. You already have the tracking which shows no movement. You can refund the buyer now and file a claim after 30 days from the sale to get the purchase price refunded (they don't refund the postage paid, unfortunately).

The first time this happened to me, I asked the buyer to wait and after 30 days I could file a claim and refund them. But now I think I would just go ahead and refund them before the 30 days, to keep the buyer happy (as possible) and to not run the risk of getting neutral/negative feedback.

Only downside I see is that the tracking updates after you refund the buyer, and the card shows as delivered. I think that is possible. I've had some of these take a really long time to arrive.

I don't sell a ton of cards, but I've done enough that I've had 2 or 3 claims and have been refunded each time I made a claim, using screenshots of ebay messages where the buyer stated the card did not arrive, and the tracking showed no delivery.

good luck

[daaaaaaaaniel]

Thanks. I'll do that.

Originally Posted by towerymt

I would ask the buyer to confirm that he/she never received the card. Basically to get your documentation in order. You already have the tracking which shows no movement. You can refund the buyer now and file a claim after 30 days from the sale to get the purchase price refunded (they don't refund the postage paid, unfortunately).

The first time this happened to me, I asked the buyer to wait and after 30 days I could file a claim and refund them. But now I think I would just go ahead and refund them before the 30 days, to keep the buyer happy (as possible) and to not run the risk of getting neutral/negative feedback.

Only downside I see is that the tracking updates after you refund the buyer, and the card shows as delivered. I think that is possible. I've had some of these take a really long time to arrive.

I don't sell a ton of cards, but I've done enough that I've had 2 or 3 claims and have been refunded each time I made a claim, using screenshots of ebay messages where the buyer stated the card did not arrive, and the tracking showed no delivery.

good luck

[clocsta2323]

Started using standard envelope a couple weeks ago to clear out trivial cards. No problems at all. My post office is top-shelf.