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Old 03-28-2022, 09:20 PM   #1
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Default I want this so bad! What a cool concept. Does anyone have something similar to this?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/38479937718...torefresh=true





What would be your max price for this?
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Old 03-28-2022, 09:58 PM   #2
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Nothing on here even states player worn, event worn, event used so not only is this one not game used, it’s not even touched by those players.

I am a relic collector, far cheaper for HOFers than autos, but I would not touch this. Pictures of random jerseys, nothing associating it with any of the players, and no statement of what it is means I stay away.

Now if someone made a card like this with a little provenance, then it would be an awesome piece.

But, if you like it great! We all have different things we collect!
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Old 03-28-2022, 10:09 PM   #3
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Yeah, I wouldn't trust that for a second.
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Old 03-28-2022, 10:12 PM   #4
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Nothing on here even states player worn, event worn, event used so not only is this one not game used, it’s not even touched by those players.

I am a relic collector, far cheaper for HOFers than autos, but I would not touch this. Pictures of random jerseys, nothing associating it with any of the players, and no statement of what it is means I stay away.

Now if someone made a card like this with a little provenance, then it would be an awesome piece.

But, if you like it great! We all have different things we collect!
WOW! Thank you! I appreciate your expertise. I am in no way on your level of collecting so I am in awe of you pointing out the things I missed and didnt take into account. Its literally fabric with no authentication. I will stay away.
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Old 03-28-2022, 10:14 PM   #5
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Nothing on here even states player worn, event worn, event used so not only is this one not game used, it’s not even touched by those players.
That's crazy to me that they would put out a card like this without pictures of any of the players, and without writing anything about the relics being used. Their strat is to just hope people don't notice how sketch this is lol?
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Old 03-28-2022, 10:27 PM   #6
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I can't believe this appears to be a "semi-legitimate" (in the loosest sense of the word) card from Leaf Superlative, it... kinda looks like a random dudes card

https://www.blowoutcards.com/2020-le...ase-17309.html

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Old 03-28-2022, 11:03 PM   #7
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I mean, they show a picture of a Babe Ruth jersey, yet there is a bat piece where his name is. Also, someone explain to me what that Nike polo means? There’s no piece of that anywhere. That looks nothing like the Federer piece in the card.
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Old 03-28-2022, 11:10 PM   #8
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What's the difference between Leaf printing these cards and ppl making custom cards out of their basement?
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Old 03-28-2022, 11:15 PM   #9
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Yeah, I wouldn't trust that for a second.
And you trust Panini? They have already got caught.
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Old 03-29-2022, 01:01 AM   #10
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And you trust Panini? They have already got caught.
I think the market has kind of sniffed on game worn stuff, unless it is super unique (logoman) or historically significant. Which 99% of this stuff isn't. Add topps to the list

"not from any specific game, event or season."
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Old 03-29-2022, 02:06 AM   #11
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The last Panini sets I thought were cool that had some information on the game used were from 2012. There is this thread about it. A cool read for when you have time. https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...treasures+sets
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Old 03-29-2022, 03:33 AM   #12
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What's the difference between Leaf printing these cards and ppl making custom cards out of their basement?
Leaf’s graphic design team isn’t that competent.
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Old 03-29-2022, 05:39 AM   #13
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I don't know about that particular card, but Leaf DOES produce cards with game used pieces on the card such as this.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CaoOiVksI9A/
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Old 03-29-2022, 05:45 AM   #14
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What's the difference between Leaf printing these cards and ppl making custom cards out of their basement?
The basement customs are more authentic than the Leaf ones. Brian Gray is slimy.
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Old 03-29-2022, 06:33 AM   #15
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What's the difference between Leaf printing these cards and ppl making custom cards out of their basement?
That the fake leaf we have now bought the real leaf brands name from years ago and have zero connection to the original leaf. I wouldn’t trust or buy these cards with found money. Let’s not forget leaf has been caught buying jerseys from china putting 75 patches on one jersey, then make the subject put the jersey on for one second and then make 200 patch cards from the one jersey.
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Old 03-29-2022, 06:59 AM   #16
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Why not go to Twitter and ask Brian Gray the CEO of Leaf to chime in on this?

His products are legitimate. Ask yourself where would he put wording to state that these were all game used.

The guys on here that are chiming in have no knowledge of the products.

I personally trust a company that puts stuff like this (where they have room) as opposed to Topps or Panini that puts BS disclaimers out to cover themselves in all cases.



Here is the front of that card too.

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Old 03-29-2022, 07:42 AM   #17
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You CAN have something like this. Just find 16 pieces of random material around your house, and send to Mouschi for him to make you a custom. Super inexpensive….
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Old 03-29-2022, 08:05 AM   #18
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You CAN have something like this. Just find 16 pieces of random material around your house, and send to Mouschi for him to make you a custom. Super inexpensive….
Reading the thread, I had the same thought. That guy's work is amazing. In the alternative, you could actually buy authentic stuff with the providence, send to Mouschi and have a real 1-of-1 collectible. No idea what he'd charge, but from the items he's posted, it'd be worth kicking the tires on.
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Old 03-29-2022, 08:08 AM   #19
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Leaf lists the Superlative 16 cards as game used on their website in the product description. Why is everyone assuming it isn't? Genuinely curious.
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Leaf lists the Superlative 16 cards as game used on their website in the product description. Why is everyone assuming it isn't? Genuinely curious.
because it is easer to bash something that they know nothing about rather than to do some actual research.

Leaf actually cares about their consumers and to know this you just need to go read the thread reporting on the break where the products were opened prior to the break but show as "sealed". Brian the CEO got involved and called the breaker out on their antics.

Good luck getting Topps or Panini to step in and do something like this.

To the original posted - the card is 100% real with game used/match used swatches on it and if you like it I would put in a bid.
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Old 03-29-2022, 08:39 AM   #21
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Putting aside the questioned authenticity, it’s a pretty neat looking card and concept.
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Old 03-29-2022, 10:53 AM   #22
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The last Panini sets I thought were cool that had some information on the game used were from 2012. There is this thread about it. A cool read for when you have time. https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...treasures+sets
YUS! My favorite thread! I forgot about it! Will have to bring it up for newbies to appreciate.
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because it is easer to bash something that they know nothing about rather than to do some actual research.

Leaf actually cares about their consumers and to know this you just need to go read the thread reporting on the break where the products were opened prior to the break but show as "sealed". Brian the CEO got involved and called the breaker out on their antics.

Good luck getting Topps or Panini to step in and do something like this.

To the original posted - the card is 100% real with game used/match used swatches on it and if you like it I would put in a bid.
While I agree about Brian Gray caring more about his customers than all the other big ones, that does not change my opinion on this card.

What Leaf did for the Pro Set break issues was a great thing, and actually what I have come to expect from him and Leaf, so I am not knocking his company or him at all.

I also understand what the website and sales sheet says, but it does not state that every patch/relic is game used. The wording allows for not all to be game used. The words not being on the card is what is concerning. In 20 years, who knows what the website will say if it even exists at the time. The fact that there is not wording on the card is concerning. Any lawyer would be able to argue that Leaf never claimed this card was used anywhere if it ever came down to that or was questioned.

All the relics are also very clean and do not show signs of any use, age or wear and in times do not match the picture shown for that player. Such as the bat being used for Ruth, but the jersey shown, Nicholas shows a gray/brown polo but has a green shirt, Federer does not match, neither do Palmer or Nadal, Mantle is not consistent with material used during his time, and then the Irving does not look like the material that actually would have been used in the numbering on the jersey pictured for him which is the only white part of the jersey shown.

So, I have done research, I am not knocking Leaf in this card, I just do not believe all the relics in this have been touched by the players listed.

I could be wrong, but without statements on the card or provenance shown, then I would always make the assumption they have never been near the player.
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Old 03-29-2022, 10:56 AM   #24
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Brians on here, and I can tell you that cards legit. This product wasn't easy to find either and seemed to be very popular.

Id expect it all to be game/event (fight/tournament) used as well.

I'll see if I cant get an answer for you.
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Old 03-29-2022, 11:12 AM   #25
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100% authentic game used, except Bruce Lee that is personally worn.
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