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Old 04-12-2022, 10:36 AM   #13926
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I was looking at checklists this morning, wondering why I am missing some years of Brady bowman cards and it appears that there were no Bowman Chrome football sets released from 2010-2013 and 2015. No Bowman paper from 2009-2011.

I was focused on Baseball pretty specifically then so I dont remember what was going on with football at that time.

I know the last year for topps football products was 2015, so i am surprised there was no chrome that year.

Is there a reason Topps did not release these 2 popular sets for those years? It is a mystery to me!

this is all assuming TCDB is correct.

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Old 04-12-2022, 12:01 PM   #13927
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Try finding a Fleer Showcase in mint condition, there are 2k of them but only 76 that have a grade of 9 or higher between BGS and PSA. Also one of his best rookies in my opinion.

The debate will never end lol since he’s in a Pats uniform that supposedly automatically makes it a desirable rookie.


I’d rather have a lower serial #’d card in a lower grade than the showcase in a 9, since grading is so subjective, but a serial # isn’t.

Any /100 or less are going to be nearly impossible to find in the future. Showcase will always be for sale since there are 2,000 of them.

As one example I’d rather have a Donruss Aspirations graded an 8 that’s /90 made than a showcase 9

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Old 04-12-2022, 03:41 PM   #13928
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buy em all

anything you like and can afford just buy it

5 years from now looking back on this thread the prices will be laughable

now is actually a pretty good time to buy actually
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Old 04-12-2022, 03:59 PM   #13929
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buy em all

anything you like and can afford just buy it

5 years from now looking back on this thread the prices will be laughable

now is actually a pretty good time to buy actually

During his brief “retirement” weren’t prices soaring? Who in the world is waiting until retirement to buy?

Makes no sense lol but good news for those selling in the future
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Old 04-12-2022, 04:08 PM   #13930
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Brady market grows every year plus he'll be getting inducted
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Old 04-12-2022, 05:12 PM   #13931
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Try finding a Fleer Showcase in mint condition, there are 2k of them but only 76 that have a grade of 9 or higher between BGS and PSA. Also one of his best rookies in my opinion.
I've bought and sold just about every Brady rookie. And regardless of what one person thinks in this thread, the desirable cards in the NFL uniforms will always sell better. Every Momentum, Showcase, even Metal I've sold has offers and watchers instantly. It took me forever to sell numbered Pacific, Paramount, etc. Just because something is rare doesn't mean it is desirable. Look how many 1/1's of current players sell for less than cards numbered /99 or more from premium sets.
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Old 04-12-2022, 05:49 PM   #13932
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I've bought and sold just about every Brady rookie. And regardless of what one person thinks in this thread, the desirable cards in the NFL uniforms will always sell better. Every Momentum, Showcase, even Metal I've sold has offers and watchers instantly. It took me forever to sell numbered Pacific, Paramount, etc. Just because something is rare doesn't mean it is desirable. Look how many 1/1's of current players sell for less than cards numbered /99 or more from premium sets.
So Donruss Elite isn't the best? I was told it was because it is more rare... I personally would rather have lower pop, and stuff graded before the last few years than a Pacific copper rc or something in a Senior Bowl uniform.
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Old 04-12-2022, 06:04 PM   #13933
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Onepocket is correct. Rarity adds value, but it does not make it the best. If a card is so rare that it's difficult to get a comp, it's not going to sell better than the card that is more popular with just enough rarity to make it desirable. This is not just with Brady cards, but with all players/GOATs.
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Old 04-12-2022, 08:55 PM   #13934
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Goldin has some sexy unopened 2000 in this auction -

Elite - 3 boxes
SP Authentic - 3 boxes
Bowman - 3 boxes
Encore - case
Bowman Chrome - case
SPx - case
Momentum - 3 boxes
Leaf Certified - 6 boxes
plus tons of single boxes

Also a few rare Brady's -
Contenders Championship BGS 8
Momentum X's /199
Upper Deck Exclusives /100
Ultimate Victory /25

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Old 04-13-2022, 12:53 AM   #13935
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Everyone is different though.

I love the Pacific Revolution Brady because I’m a fan of Revolution Basketball. The look is just nostalgic of the era.
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Old 04-13-2022, 01:56 AM   #13936
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I've bought and sold just about every Brady rookie. And regardless of what one person thinks in this thread, the desirable cards in the NFL uniforms will always sell better. Every Momentum, Showcase, even Metal I've sold has offers and watchers instantly. It took me forever to sell numbered Pacific, Paramount, etc. Just because something is rare doesn't mean it is desirable. Look how many 1/1's of current players sell for less than cards numbered /99 or more from premium sets.

1/1’s of current players have nothing to do with Brady lol

Brady’s 2000 Fleer Ultra Masterpiece 1/1 would sell for an absolutely ridiculous amount. Despite the college uniform and being a parallel of the Ultra/Gold Medallion. It’d sell for more than the highest graded showcase
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Old 04-13-2022, 08:15 AM   #13937
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Either you just don't get it or you like to be contrarian. Here's my last example for you -

Heritage auction
Contenders Ticket BGS 8.5 /100 $1,590,000
Donruss Elite Status PSA 9 /10 $63,000

Yeah, that's pretty close.
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1/1’s of current players have nothing to do with Brady lol

Brady’s 2000 Fleer Ultra Masterpiece 1/1 would sell for an absolutely ridiculous amount. Despite the college uniform and being a parallel of the Ultra/Gold Medallion. It’d sell for more than the highest graded showcase
You still don't get it. This is from December when you were trying to make the claim that the Absolute /10 was worth well over 1.5 million because it had over 500 watchers. Wonder why it still hasn't sold. Please just find a topic that you actually understand. Maybe watch the Goldin auctions this week and learn something?

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Old 04-13-2022, 10:18 AM   #13938
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You still don't get it. This is from December when you were trying to make the claim that the Absolute /10 was worth well over 1.5 million because it had over 500 watchers. Wonder why it still hasn't sold. Please just find a topic that you actually understand. Maybe watch the Goldin auctions this week and learn something?


You still have zero credibility for buying Luka and Deshaun…lol buying guys that have done nothing is the definition of not knowing anything. What are you realistically thinking, two rings each?


The 1/1 masterpiece selling for more than any showcase is a fact
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Old 04-13-2022, 10:46 AM   #13939
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You still have zero credibility for buying Luka and Deshaun…lol buying guys that have done nothing is the definition of not knowing anything. What are you realistically thinking, two rings each?


The 1/1 masterpiece selling for more than any showcase is a fact
Back to being a troll. I really don't think it's possible for someone to be this clueless on how cards, stocks or even how the world works. If you were actually this slow, there is no way you'd remember to breathe.
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Old 04-13-2022, 11:07 AM   #13940
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Would you pay $60,000 for Brady’s autograph?

Anyone watch High Rollers on YouTube by Chris S?

On his latest video, at #3, is a 2000 Bowman Chrome PSA 10 that has been signed and the auto is also a 10.

It sold for $75,000


How is the auto being signed who knows when, significant? It’s about a $15k card, why would someone pay so much to have the auto added on later?

Unless it’s fake sale, it just makes no sense.

You’d think any auto issued rookie would be through the roof then.
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Old 04-13-2022, 11:13 AM   #13941
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Back to being a troll. I really don't think it's possible for someone to be this clueless on how cards, stocks or even how the world works. If you were actually this slow, there is no way you'd remember to breathe.
Battles vs trolls in this thread that I have fought and undoubtedly won:

-It doesn't make sense to buy anyone other than Brady
-Only rookies matter in football


Just keep doing what you are doing because you know how things really work.
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Old 04-13-2022, 11:39 AM   #13942
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Battles vs trolls in this thread that I have fought and undoubtedly won:

-It doesn't make sense to buy anyone other than Brady
-Only rookies matter in football


Just keep doing what you are doing because you know how things really work.

At least I never said people should buy Luka or Deshaun, I’m saying the opposite. Why buy guys like that?

So everyone should sell Brady and buy prospects or guys that have only one ring?

Current players are eventually going to be not playing and 9/10 will have done nothing, value wise. It’s just a matter of time.

Why are Joe Burrow cards expensive? Who’s paying a lot for them and why?

I keep going back to Eli because it’s true, most qbs won’t do what he ever did, and his cards aren’t expensive. That should tell everyone that new guys aren’t worth it

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Old 04-13-2022, 12:07 PM   #13943
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Battles vs trolls in this thread that I have fought and undoubtedly won:

-It doesn't make sense to buy anyone other than Brady
-Only rookies matter in football


Just keep doing what you are doing because you know how things really work.
Who are you to talk? You're the idiot that made hundreds of thousands buying Mahomes. That's not Brady! Stupid move!
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Old 04-13-2022, 01:05 PM   #13944
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I sure wish we could keep this awesome thread on track. honestly, how do you "hobby" wrong? I truly dont care what others buy. as long as they enjoy it, no one should care.

when I was a kid, my mother used to tell me "dont yuck someone elses yum"

that sentiment could also apply here.
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Old 04-13-2022, 01:06 PM   #13945
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Who are you to talk? You're the idiot that made hundreds of thousands buying Mahomes. That's not Brady! Stupid move!

There’s a sucker born every minute. Anyone paying a lot for Mahomes is crazy. Him winning a second ring isn’t a guarantee. In the long term obviously Brady will be worth way more.

Congrats though on the suckers that paid a lot for Mahomes

Think about it lol Brady prices SHOULD be way more. If someone overpays for Mahomes then that’s on them

Mahomes has insanely expensive cards based off what, one ring?


Russell Wilson, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers also won one early in their careers. They’re still waiting on their second that they will probably never get. Brees is done. Rodgers is old and Wilson is now in the toughest division
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Old 04-13-2022, 01:17 PM   #13946
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Who are you to talk? You're the idiot that made hundreds of thousands buying Mahomes. That's not Brady! Stupid move!
So stupid that I doubled down on Brady non-rookies and did the same!

I'm this sad about it:



Wait til people hear about when I invested in then 0-time all star Darius Garland at the lowest valley in price!
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Old 04-13-2022, 01:50 PM   #13947
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There’s a sucker born every minute. Anyone paying a lot for Mahomes is crazy. Him winning a second ring isn’t a guarantee. In the long term obviously Brady will be worth way more.

Congrats though on the suckers that paid a lot for Mahomes

Think about it lol Brady prices SHOULD be way more. If someone overpays for Mahomes then that’s on them

Mahomes has insanely expensive cards based off what, one ring?


Russell Wilson, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers also won one early in their careers. They’re still waiting on their second that they will probably never get. Brees is done. Rodgers is old and Wilson is now in the toughest division
And the point you’re not getting, intentionally or not, is that TJ and OneP and guys like them are not the suckers, they’re the ones making a ton of money off the suckers.

I for one try to learn from the guys selling to the suckers.
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Old 04-13-2022, 01:55 PM   #13948
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And the point you’re not getting, intentionally or not, is that TJ and OneP and guys like them are not the suckers, they’re the ones making a ton of money off the suckers.

I for one try to learn from the guys selling to the suckers.
It's not even selling to the suckers.

Some of my biggest winners have been cards that have gone up in value even after I sold them.

The difference that I've been able to take my profits and invest them in something that either grew at an even faster rate, or items that were just underpriced to being with.
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Old 04-13-2022, 02:19 PM   #13949
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Guys, guys....they're not going to get it. They think someones opinion is invalid just because they may have made a bad investment choice at one point in their collecting journey. Heck, we've all made a bad choice or gotten way too excited about the next big prospect/player (whatever it may be) at some point. But one misstep does not preclude me from being correct/knowledgeable about Brady and his market (or any other area of the market). They just keep saying the same thing...."You invested in Player X so why should we listen to you, you're stupid". They obviously have some decent Brady's they want to see go up in value so........."if you invest in anything other than Brady you're dumb, buy buy buy". I'm hoping they unload they're Brady's soon because then you'll hear........."I don't see Brady's going higher and now is the best time to sell"
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Old 04-13-2022, 02:42 PM   #13950
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It's not even selling to the suckers.

Some of my biggest winners have been cards that have gone up in value even after I sold them.

The difference that I've been able to take my profits and invest them in something that either grew at an even faster rate, or items that were just underpriced to being with.
Yea, I thought about that when I typed it, but just went with “suckers” based on his post.

Getting that “snowball” rolling by creating profits into bigger/better cards is the key at the end of the day.
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