Kong53 AKA Kongscards53 Copiously Trimming High-End 2021 Contenders, PSA Oblivious - Page 3

oplum29 · 05-01-2022, 01:17 PM

thumbs up man...you are very good at your job

DragonWagon · 05-01-2022, 05:51 PM

All added https://www.tiffanycards.com/altered-card-database

Keep'em coming!

RedMike · 05-01-2022, 05:53 PM

Wow - hopefully PSA does the right thing with these recent trimmers being caught...

of course, they rather stay quiet because you haven't heard them say anything (at least from my knowledge)

sethc1020 · 05-02-2022, 06:15 AM

Wow good work yet again!!! I was highly skeptical when I started to see PSA 10s popping up for this years Contenders . These were terrible from the factory and with that top boarder there was white on basically every top corner or edge front and back for literally every RC Auto I've seen.

KhalDrogo · 05-02-2022, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RedMike

Wow - hopefully PSA does the right thing with these recent trimmers being caught...

of course, they rather stay quiet because you haven't heard them say anything (at least from my knowledge)

I expect something this week. Would be disappointing if the company didn’t come out with a formal statement banning the submitters. They should buy back the slabs, then go after the trimmers in court. Seeing the cards they own, they certainly have enough assets to make it worthwhile for PSA.

auburn35 · 05-02-2022, 01:43 PM

Appears someone hacked Khal's account.

Humorously, cardporn did an overlay of two unrelated cards, suggesting the identified cards aren't a match.

Using the PSA 10 (64240219) from the OP, it appears they are comparing that auto against the raw card from post 21 (note the card stand in the image). The raw card from post 21 was also altered but only graded as a PSA 9 (64147461)

3124508 on COMC · 05-02-2022, 03:27 PM

TRIMMED: 2021 Panini Contenders Zach Wilson Autograph PSA 8
PSA Cert #: 64147459

Left edge is trimmed too actually. You can tell by looking at the photo on the back.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/134056535063
https://www.psacard.com/cert/64147458

49erRCCollector · 05-02-2022, 03:35 PM

Have these guys weighed in on this yet? I see their IG is private?

roberth404 · 05-02-2022, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

Have these guys weighed in on this yet? I see their IG is private?

Nope, been radio silent for days now, when he's used to posting multiple stories a day.

Bob Ross · 05-02-2022, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by auburn35

Appears someone hacked Khal's account.

Humorously, cardporn did an overlay of two unrelated cards, suggesting the identified cards aren't a match.

Using the PSA 10 (64240219) from the OP, it appears they are comparing that auto against the raw card from post 21 (note the card stand in the image). The raw card from post 21 was also altered but only graded as a PSA 9 (64147461)

Is this Cardporn person a moron? Why compare 2 unrelated cards and not the dozens of examples that are proven to be the same?

clocsta2323 · 05-02-2022, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Ross

Is this Cardporn person a moron? Why compare 2 unrelated cards and not the dozens of examples that are proven to be the same?

I need my 3D glasses

alphaomegas · 05-02-2022, 06:56 PM

does anybody really care anymore we have psa controlling pop reports for there friends and screwing the little guys.

Nobody gives a shiit about trimming its been going on for decades. Real criminals is the inflated box prices of garbage products that is destroying the noobs in the hobby.

or the bloody dealers and ebay sellers shilling there #@#@#@#@.

go get a job if you got time to do this worthless shiit

3124508 on COMC · 05-02-2022, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Ross

Is this Cardporn person a moron? Why compare 2 unrelated cards and not the dozens of examples that are proven to be the same?

That certainly appears to be the case.

Kobe101 · 05-03-2022, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

That certainly appears to be the case.

Lol. I always thought you were card porn. I guess that isn't the case! Or maybe you are trying to throw us off?? =)

Appreciate all the work you do! .

SleeperCards · 05-03-2022, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Kobe101

Lol. I always thought you were card porn. I guess that isn't the case! Or maybe you are trying to throw us off?? =)

Appreciate all the work you do! .

They are definitely not cardporn. Cardporn was a bit difficult to work with, but at least they finally put up a post.

I give people on blowout crap about not knowing what they are talking about sometimes, but holy hell IG is absolute insanity when it comes to cards. Some of the comments about trimming blow my mind. One guy said it was "adding value" and compared it to getting new insoles for vintage Jordans.

Bob Ross · 05-03-2022, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

That certainly appears to be the case.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kobe101

Lol. I always thought you were card porn. I guess that isn't the case! Or maybe you are trying to throw us off?? =)

Appreciate all the work you do! .

Lol if that is the case I kindly refrain from my moron comment.

EDIT: post above confirms not. I stick by my moron comment.

BamBam20 · 05-03-2022, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SleeperCards

but holy hell IG is absolute insanity when it comes to cards.

I remember being pretty shocked when a big IG account was (the way I understood it) very open about using "cleaning services" to clean up refractor scratches and then resubbing for better grades. IIRC this cleaner was banned from PSA.

SleeperCards · 05-03-2022, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BamBam20

I remember being pretty shocked when a big IG account was (the way I understood it) very open about using "cleaning services" to clean up refractor scratches and then resubbing for better grades. IIRC this cleaner was banned from PSA.

I just saw an ad on Instagram the other day for some guy's card cleaning/repair kit, thought about posting it here. Can't remember what it was called now.

Biohazarddfl · 05-03-2022, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Ross

Is this Cardporn person a moron? Why compare 2 unrelated cards and not the dozens of examples that are proven to be the same?

I believe that post was about someone trying to trick him in to scrutinizing a card that wasn't actually trimmed. I respected the discretion before trashing someone else's card

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49erRCCollector · 05-03-2022, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SleeperCards

They are definitely not cardporn. Cardporn was a bit difficult to work with, but at least they finally put up a post.

I give people on blowout crap about not knowing what they are talking about sometimes, but holy hell IG is absolute insanity when it comes to cards. Some of the comments about trimming blow my mind. One guy said it was "adding value" and compared it to getting new insoles for vintage Jordans.

This, so much. The new school "investors" were all over the comments asking "what's the problem?"

I'ts like this - if I go buy a new car, and later find out the dealer bought a slightly used car that had been in an accident and just fixed the damage and re-set the odometer to zero - but I paid a new car premium - THAT is the metaphor.

I'm not so naive to think that I don't inadvertently have trimmed cards in my PSA collection (specifically in the vintage stuff) but I do everything in my power to vert the cards I buy and/or grade myself.

I'm also curious as to how PSA catches marginally factory undercut cards. I sent in a pack-pulled 1993 SP Foil Adrian Hardy, it was N6'd - and sure as hell - it was just a hair smaller that normal size, it was so minimal, I didn't catch it by eye.... but they aren't catching these hatchet jobs? I'd love for Nat to weigh in here.

3124508 on COMC · 05-03-2022, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Biohazarddfl

I believe that post was about someone trying to trick him in to scrutinizing a card that wasn't actually trimmed. I respected the discretion before trashing someone else's card

Sent from my SM-S901U using Tapatalk

Well the card he posted is trimmed so that doesn’t really check out. As was the raw card (though that was after that photo was taken). They just weren’t the same card.

Biohazarddfl · 05-03-2022, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

Well the card he posted is trimmed so that doesn’t really check out. As was the raw card (though that was after that photo was taken). They just weren’t the same card.

Okay, thanks for the clarification. I still think it's good that they use their platform to shine a light. And thanks for all you do for the hobby!

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ThatGuyPal · 05-03-2022, 08:35 PM

While you all lose your minds PSA is literally touting a Contenders Lawrence auto in the latest PSA Insider, lmao don’t think there losing sleep lol

49erRCCollector · 05-03-2022, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatGuyPal

While you all lose your minds PSA is literally touting a Contenders Lawrence auto in the latest PSA Insider, lmao don’t think there losing sleep lol

I love that this post was edited for spelling. Amazing.

auburn35 · 05-04-2022, 11:04 AM

Haven't seen a public statement from PSA but it appears all the trimmed cards pictured in this thread are currently deactivated.

The cards not pictured but noted to also be Kong53 submissions from the OP, still appear to have good PSA certifications.

05-01-2022, 01:17 PM	#51
oplum29 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 10,405	thumbs up man...you are very good at your job __________________ "got em, got em, need em, got em, got em, need em, got em" - Little Monsters

05-02-2022, 06:15 AM	#54
sethc1020 Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Indiana Posts: 5,817 sethc_1020	Wow good work yet again!!! I was highly skeptical when I started to see PSA 10s popping up for this years Contenders . These were terrible from the factory and with that top boarder there was white on basically every top corner or edge front and back for literally every RC Auto I've seen. __________________ https://www.flickr.com/gp/151086784@N06/28H47r

05-02-2022, 01:43 PM	#56
auburn35 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,506	Appears someone hacked Khal's account. Humorously, cardporn did an overlay of two unrelated cards, suggesting the identified cards aren't a match. Using the PSA 10 (64240219) from the OP, it appears they are comparing that auto against the raw card from post 21 (note the card stand in the image). The raw card from post 21 was also altered but only graded as a PSA 9 (64147461) __________________ Ashley Lelie Rookie Collector, always looking for more.

05-02-2022, 03:27 PM	#57
3124508 on COMC BODA Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 9,481	TRIMMED: 2021 Panini Contenders Zach Wilson Autograph PSA 8 PSA Cert #: 64147459 Left edge is trimmed too actually. You can tell by looking at the photo on the back. https://www.ebay.com/itm/134056535063 https://www.psacard.com/cert/64147458 __________________ 3124508@protonmail.com The Short Guide to the PWCC Card Trimming & Alteration Fraud Last edited by 3124508 on COMC; 05-02-2022 at 03:30 PM.

05-02-2022, 03:35 PM	#58
49erRCCollector Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 13,063	Have these guys weighed in on this yet? I see their IG is private? __________________ Will MASSIVELY overpay for: 2002 Fleer Authentix #180, 181 Derek Smith & Zack Bronson AND 2007 Upper Deck Target Exclusive Rookies Autographs #261 Joe Staley #'d to /5

05-01-2022, 05:51 PM	#52
DragonWagon Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 914	All added https://www.tiffanycards.com/altered-card-database Keep'em coming!

05-01-2022, 05:53 PM	#53
RedMike Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: I am mostly active on Instagram - Msg me there. Posts: 802 redmikec	Wow - hopefully PSA does the right thing with these recent trimmers being caught... of course, they rather stay quiet because you haven't heard them say anything (at least from my knowledge)

05-02-2022, 06:56 PM	#62
alphaomegas Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,025	does anybody really care anymore we have psa controlling pop reports for there friends and screwing the little guys. Nobody gives a shiit about trimming its been going on for decades. Real criminals is the inflated box prices of garbage products that is destroying the noobs in the hobby. or the bloody dealers and ebay sellers shilling there #@#@#@#@. go get a job if you got time to do this worthless shiit

05-03-2022, 08:35 PM	#73
ThatGuyPal Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 4,587	While you all lose your minds PSA is literally touting a Contenders Lawrence auto in the latest PSA Insider, lmao don’t think there losing sleep lol Last edited by ThatGuyPal; 05-03-2022 at 08:35 PM. Reason: Spelling

05-04-2022, 11:04 AM	#75
auburn35 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,506	Haven't seen a public statement from PSA but it appears all the trimmed cards pictured in this thread are currently deactivated. The cards not pictured but noted to also be Kong53 submissions from the OP, still appear to have good PSA certifications. __________________ Ashley Lelie Rookie Collector, always looking for more.