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Old 08-10-2021, 12:00 PM   #1
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Default Kronozio?

Anyone here using their new AI service? Surprised no one has brought them up here since starting with AI. I am on the fence with signing up. My biggest concern is do the take 10% of your sales including on ebay sales? That alone would be a deal breaker for me. Also not a fan of doing all ebay business through them, which seems to be what they are asking for. And do the AI misses count towards your allotment?
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Old 08-10-2021, 03:45 PM   #2
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I'd love to hear about experiences anyone has with them.

I like the idea of using the software but I think having the drop scanner would be the biggest benefit to using it.

I've thought about signing up and doing the basic stuff just to see how it works and going from there...
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Old 08-12-2021, 12:36 PM   #3
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I'd love to hear about experiences anyone has with them.

I like the idea of using the software but I think having the drop scanner would be the biggest benefit to using it.

I've thought about signing up and doing the basic stuff just to see how it works and going from there...
I find it odd no one cares to discuss the site. But then again that would explain the lack of sales I had in my first attempt at using the site without linking ebay to it. I had a grand total of two sales and shut it down and moved most of it to sportlots where it is slowly moving.

My experience with the early scanning software was not positive, it would very rarely properly catch the items, would have to adjust the image size on virtually every item. Given that I use a canon scanner that will pull each scan 99% of the time without issue I stopped adding items, way too much of a hassle. This time around I will primarily be scanning cards in toploaders, so hopefully it is better at properly catching them without adjusting. I would also be using it 100% for listing to ebay.
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Old 08-12-2021, 01:11 PM   #4
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It does seem strange that no one seems to use it. I was looking for recent information and couldn't find videos (even from the company) that were made in the last year or so not sure what that means. I was looking at it to see if it would be something that could speed up my scanning/listing for eBay only, like I said it might be worth a trial to see how it goes.
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Old 08-12-2021, 02:24 PM   #5
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It does seem strange that no one seems to use it. I was looking for recent information and couldn't find videos (even from the company) that were made in the last year or so not sure what that means. I was looking at it to see if it would be something that could speed up my scanning/listing for eBay only, like I said it might be worth a trial to see how it goes.
Exactly, COMC got where they were by communicating with potential users.

It is my understanding that to use them to cross list to ebay you must pay for that service, even without using the AI service.
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https://subscription.kronocard.com/

Needless to say, I will definitely not be using Kronozio to cross list to ebay. I may still use the AI service to 'manage' my inventory and cross it over to ebay on my terms.
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Old 05-10-2022, 05:59 PM   #7
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Default Just starting to try out Kronozio...

I'm just going to start trying it out. I've just done one batch of 20 cards (Topps Now Stickers), so I was able to scan 10 cards at a time on my Canon Flatbed scanner.
- I did have to adjust two or three backs to get the full card, likely because the backs are mostly white and the edges were a bit hard for the scanner to find. I had no problem with the fronts of these full bleed cards.
- I had to flip all the scans, but this can be done all 10 fronts, and all 10 backs, at once.
- Seems the learning curve will likely be pretty short for their software... and will plan to get things listed on their site to start.
- Their software is somewhat progressive / step-by-step, which is weird, but you have to go through a couple steps before more features show up.
- I haven't tried the AI, but it sounds like it's mostly able to just capture Names and Card Numbers. I don't think it is able to recognize sets and inserts and such. I don't plan to use that as I usually know what I have and that's not too hard to enter.

I've only played around with it for about an hour so far, but like the potential of the software.

One problem I've seen with the site is the listings are strictly at the responsibility of the seller, meaning if you list a baseball card as a hockey card, it'll show up in the hockey results... If you list a 1989 card as a 1988 card, it shows up as a 1988 card... and in some cases, can clog up certain search / browse results. Another thing that depends on seller input is the set naming. For instance, I search for 2005 Topps Draft Picks and Prospects... the seller may have listed as Topps DP&P or Topps Draft Picks & Prospects, you might miss some or you might have multiple listings of the same card, which clogs things up a bit. Some don't separate the Chrome from the base, so all entries are up to the user.

If they could combine sportlots' checklists and the Kronozio scanning and listings, I think that could really be something.

I'll post updates if I have a good experience if/when I have time (we have a 10 month old, so time isn't always available) ... but if you just want to inventory your cards, especially with scans, it seems like their free software (without AI) is still pretty user friendly with a relatively short learning curve.

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Old 05-11-2022, 03:39 PM   #8
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I just started using Kronocard less than a month ago and I’ve listed over 22,000 singles to eBay mostly with the help of their AI. I can do anywhere from 200-400 cards per hour with their software (other users I talk with usually are around 100 because of time it takes for pricing, or using a flatbed scanner instead of an ADF scanner). I’m a huge fan because my old process maxed out at 150-200ish cards per hour. Most of the cards I’ve listed are bulk commons that I just price to $0.99 so that helps speed things up a ton. If you’re more selective with the cards that you list, you can hit that 100 cards/hour rate with just the eBay bulk listing editor, a scanner, and a little automation with something like FastKeys and Photoshop image editing automations. I’m happy to help elaborate on any of these topics if anyone has questions. I think I’m probably among the top 1-10% of fastest eBay listers whether using Kronocard or not (would love to have my bubble burst if anyone knows of even faster methods/software, always trying to learn and improve).

I’m honestly surprised more card sellers don’t use the platform. I know Burbank uses them. You can scale your eBay store very quickly with their tool but it does require a significant investment in the scanners, eBay store, and software subs so that probably scares a lot of people away. I’ve already profited despite the costs. The profit per hour is pretty low starting off but I’m expecting it to go up pretty quickly as my store continues to grow (especially if I get my sell thru rate higher by sourcing higher value cards).

All that said, if you’re working with higher value cards and a smaller inventory, Kronocard probably isn’t a big value add. But if you’re looking to move a large volume of cards there’s nothing better afaik. I’m doing eBay as a hobby side business so if eBay is your primary income, doing what I’m experimenting with would probably take a year or two of hustling to get to like 500k+ listings to earn a mediocre living.
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Old 05-11-2022, 03:48 PM   #9
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People are actually trusting downloading this .exe/.dmg file from untrusted companies to your computer?

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Old 05-11-2022, 06:01 PM   #10
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I'm just going to start trying it out. I've just done one batch of 20 cards (Topps Now Stickers), so I was able to scan 10 cards at a time on my Canon Flatbed scanner.
- I did have to adjust two or three backs to get the full card, likely because the backs are mostly white and the edges were a bit hard for the scanner to find. I had no problem with the fronts of these full bleed cards.
- I also had to flip all the cards, but this can be done all 10 fronts, and all 10 backs, at once.
- Seems the learning curve will likely be pretty short for their software... and will plan to get things listed on their site to start.
- Their software is somewhat progressive / step-by-step, which is weird, but you have to go through a couple steps before more features show up.
- I haven't tried the AI, but it sounds like it's mostly able to just capture Names and Card Numbers. I don't think it is able to recognize sets and inserts and such. I don't plan to use that as I usually know what I have and that's not too hard to enter.

I've only played around with it for about an hour so far, but like the potential of the software.

One problem I've seen with the site is the listings are strictly at the responsibility of the seller, meaning if you list a baseball card as a hockey card, it'll show up in the hockey results... If you list a 1989 card as a 1988 card, it shows up as a 1988 card... and in some cases, can clog up certain search / browse results. Another thing that depends on seller input is the set naming. For instance, I search for 2005 Topps Draft Picks and Prospects... the seller may have listed as Topps DP&P or Topps Draft Picks & Prospects, you might miss some or you might have multiple listings of the same card, which clogs things up a bit. Some don't separate the Chrome from the base, so all entries are up to the user.

If they could combine sportlots' checklists and the Kronozio scanning and listings, O think that could really be something.

I'll post updates if I have a good experience if/when I have time (we have a 10 month old, so time isn't always available) ... but if you just want to inventory your cards, especially with scans, it seems like their free software (without AI) is still pretty user friendly with a relatively short learning curve.
Hi, I am using a great program called Ransenscan and I was having the same problems as you - when there were several all white bordered cards on the scanner, the software wasn't picking up the entire card. I solved this by scanning with the scanner lid open. I have since scanned several 1000 cards with the lid open, and it works great.
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Old 05-14-2022, 12:28 AM   #11
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I just started using Kronocard less than a month ago and I’ve listed over 22,000 singles to eBay mostly with the help of their AI. I can do anywhere from 200-400 cards per hour with their software (other users I talk with usually are around 100 because of time it takes for pricing, or using a flatbed scanner instead of an ADF scanner). I’m a huge fan because my old process maxed out at 150-200ish cards per hour. Most of the cards I’ve listed are bulk commons that I just price to $0.99 so that helps speed things up a ton. If you’re more selective with the cards that you list, you can hit that 100 cards/hour rate with just the eBay bulk listing editor, a scanner, and a little automation with something like FastKeys and Photoshop image editing automations. I’m happy to help elaborate on any of these topics if anyone has questions. I think I’m probably among the top 1-10% of fastest eBay listers whether using Kronocard or not (would love to have my bubble burst if anyone knows of even faster methods/software, always trying to learn and improve).

I’m honestly surprised more card sellers don’t use the platform. I know Burbank uses them. You can scale your eBay store very quickly with their tool but it does require a significant investment in the scanners, eBay store, and software subs so that probably scares a lot of people away. I’ve already profited despite the costs. The profit per hour is pretty low starting off but I’m expecting it to go up pretty quickly as my store continues to grow (especially if I get my sell thru rate higher by sourcing higher value cards).

All that said, if you’re working with higher value cards and a smaller inventory, Kronocard probably isn’t a big value add. But if you’re looking to move a large volume of cards there’s nothing better afaik. I’m doing eBay as a hobby side business so if eBay is your primary income, doing what I’m experimenting with would probably take a year or two of hustling to get to like 500k+ listings to earn a mediocre living.
Great insight. Thanks. Are you using the AI? Is it true that there is a fee for ebay sales as someone commented on above? I'd love to use this to list a bunch of .99 cent listings.
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Great insight. Thanks. Are you using the AI? Is it true that there is a fee for ebay sales as someone commented on above? I'd love to use this to list a bunch of .99 cent listings.
Yeah I’m using the AI too. No extra fees beyond the cost of the software subscriptions.
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I read the FAQ but still finding difficulty in what this actually is.
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I read the FAQ but still finding difficulty in what this actually is.
Cataloguing software that lets you instantly list cards on their website and eBay.

There is also an AI component so if you have a compatible scanner it will identify and title cards cards as they get uploaded. Mileage may vary on accuracy.
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Cataloguing software that lets you instantly list cards on their website and eBay.

There is also an AI component so if you have a compatible scanner it will identify and title cards cards as they get uploaded. Mileage may vary on accuracy.
Wow! That’s great. I am going to look into that. Thanks for the clarification
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I've been trying out the kronocard 'upload' subscription the last few days. It's like $15 a month. I just really like the auto crop feature being able to front and back of 8 cards in much less time that cropping them individually on my own. The free subscription still does this but the ability to upload to my PC and save them there is what im paying for. It seems to be a good value for me currently as my goal is to add 500 or so auctions a month now.
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Yes, when reading their "instructions" / recommendations, they say not to do that, but I have since (just with the white backed cards) started putting a cardboard sheet behind the cards. I haven't had to re-adjust any of the scans since then.

As the one seller mentioned, if you're listing all from the same set and at the same price, this is a REAL time saver. Looking at the eBay part of the platform, it seems like there is a bit more of a learning curve, if you want to "build your own" HTML template, so it's not just plain text. I'll look into that a bit down the road, but I could see this being a quicker version of the listing service I use now (Auctiva), as I essentially have to enter the card information 3 times right now (Title/Item Description/item specifics).

Still no action on the few cards I've listed so far on Kronozio, so I'm guessing the site traffic is probably pretty low.

French Quarter... I'm going to look into the Ransenscan you mentioned, just to be curious. Do you use it more for cataloging your collection, or does it work for sales / with ebay?
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