DJ to Saudi Arabia - What will the PGA Tour do now? - Page 4

glen87 · 06-10-2022, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

How much is gas in SA?

what time does SA close????

ianh182 · 06-10-2022, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Skippy

Imagine doing a job for $20 an hour, then another company offers you $100 an hour to do the exact same job...

You wouldn't question their choice right?

If I knew the money was coming from an abusive regime with no regard for human rights, and would likely have a long-term impact on the company that I loved, I would turn down the extra money in a heartbeat.

Then when you think we're not talking about people on $20/hour, but people already sitting on tens of millions, it's even more grotesque.

Skippy · 06-10-2022, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ianh182

If I knew the money was coming from an abusive regime with no regard for human rights, and would likely have a long-term impact on the company that I loved, I would turn down the extra money in a heartbeat.

Then when you think we're not talking about people on $20/hour, but people already sitting on tens of millions, it's even more grotesque.

Very well stated. I'm not here to flip your argument, but the same can be said to our own political funding in certain hot spots across the globe. Some may argue one is more extreme than the other: arming guns vs swinging clubs. At the end of the day, its golf, and they are independent contractors.

Didn't mean to get political, but I see it as a great way for the PGA Tour to compensate their players and get creative ie shotgun starts and F1 leaderboard, how many holes remaining were all great touches to the sport.

Siberian13 · 06-10-2022, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wood minis

Maybe Tiger does have a chance to catch Jack now.

Doubt it. But I’m sure those that run the majors will allow these guys to play the majors.

stanmarsh · 06-10-2022, 03:23 PM

Aren't they independent contractors? You see Nascar drivers race in other series, baseball players play in the cuban or mexican league, basketball players play in China and even golfers play in the European or China league. Is it because the top players might make the ratings and attendance go down?

thenightman · 06-10-2022, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ianh182

If I knew the money was coming from an abusive regime with no regard for human rights, and would likely have a long-term impact on the company that I loved, I would turn down the extra money in a heartbeat.

Then when you think we're not talking about people on $20/hour, but people already sitting on tens of millions, it's even more grotesque.

jdandns · 06-10-2022, 07:01 PM

LIV was originally going to play 72 hole tournaments like the PGA does but the sponsors needed those last 18 holes to store the remains of Jamal Khashoggi, the journalist they lured to their consulate in Istanbul under false pretenses for the purposes of murdering and dismembering him due to his criticism of their behavior that was validated beyond the shadow of a doubt specifically by what they did to him personally.

onenineeightsix · 06-10-2022, 07:19 PM

Some people complaining about this or the Saudi regime would let them dismember their uncle for $120 million. The US does business with the Saudi’s, has for a long time, your car likely has their oil in it, but now because golf is involved it’s all gone too far? Crazy.

jdandns · 06-10-2022, 08:10 PM

True, but many of the players have individual sponsorships with various companies, so there will be surely be some maneuvering from some of them on a case-by-case basis.

jdandns · 06-11-2022, 10:26 PM

4.75 million for Charl today.
(4 big ones for the individual win and 750k as part of his four man team's 3 million dollar prize.)

Pat3ntP3nd1ng · 06-12-2022, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wood minis

Maybe Tiger does have a chance to catch Jack now.

Honestly I don’t get this talk. None of the players that have left have got in the way of Tiger winning majors. Health is the only thing that challenges him. When he’s ON he can beat anyone in the world. Even now.

If he happens to catch Jacks major record, I can hear the excuses now. “Tiger had a easier field to go through since players went to the LIV tour”.

Nope, the PGA tour continues to get more difficult to win on.

More interesting side note, I’m more interested in Tiger just winning one more regular tournament and breaking the tie with Snead. That would put him 10 wins ahead of Jack if anyone is keeping track at home.

JWBlue · 06-12-2022, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jdandns

4.75 million for Charl today.
(4 big ones for the individual win and 750k as part of his four man team's 3 million dollar prize.)

Made more money today than the last four years on PGA Tour.

Ferg1945 · 06-13-2022, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jdandns

4.75 million for Charl today.
(4 big ones for the individual win and 750k as part of his four man team's 3 million dollar prize.)

the whole team walked away with one FAT payday

Charl Schwartzel - $4,750,000

Hennie du Plessis - $2,875,000

Branden Grace - $2,025,000

Louis Oosthuizen - $1,266,666

3 days work = $10,916,666

Grace played 27 PGA tournaments in 2020-21 and won $2.22M - one on LIV $2.02M

du Plessis is ranked 134th in the Official World Golf Rankings and 3 days in London changed his life.

Boo · 06-13-2022, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pat3ntP3nd1ng

Honestly I don’t get this talk. None of the players that have left have got in the way of Tiger winning majors. Health is the only thing that challenges him. When he’s ON he can beat anyone in the world. Even now.

If he happens to catch Jacks major record, I can hear the excuses now. “Tiger had a easier field to go through since players went to the LIV tour”.

Nope, the PGA tour continues to get more difficult to win on.

More interesting side note, I’m more interested in Tiger just winning one more regular tournament and breaking the tie with Snead. That would put him 10 wins ahead of Jack if anyone is keeping track at home.

Brazenways · 06-15-2022, 12:47 PM

Laugh out Loud

vvvvv

https://progolfweekly.com/saudi-back...tour-fan-shop/

JRX · 06-15-2022, 03:59 PM

What I want to know is did anyone actually turn down 9 figures? They can all act high and mighty, but hell I'll sell out for 100m.

Scottish Punk · 06-15-2022, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferg1945

the whole team walked away with one FAT payday

Charl Schwartzel - $4,750,000

Hennie du Plessis - $2,875,000

Branden Grace - $2,025,000

Louis Oosthuizen - $1,266,666

3 days work = $10,916,666

Grace played 27 PGA tournaments in 2020-21 and won $2.22M - one on LIV $2.02M

du Plessis is ranked 134th in the Official World Golf Rankings and 3 days in London changed his life.

I agree with what Rory as stated. Older players jumping over to get easy money toward the end of their careers kind of makes sense. Especially mid tier Euro players who can cut back travel as well.

It is the younger players just starting out are going to bet bit in the end jumping over Especially if their LIV stats aren't recognized by the majors.

hermanotarjeta · 06-15-2022, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JRX

What I want to know is did anyone actually turn down 9 figures? They can all act high and mighty, but hell I'll sell out for 100m.

Yeah, but you're not Tiger Woods..........

Bob Ross · 06-16-2022, 10:31 AM

Wait so Fanatics is funded by the Saudis?

JRX · 06-16-2022, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Yeah, but you're not Tiger Woods..........

Tiger is already in the 4 comma club.

Brazenways · 06-18-2022, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Ross

Wait so Fanatics is funded by the Saudis?

Yes.

Also funny to see how else is doing significant investments with them….

https://newsroom.fedex.com/newsroom/...-saudi-arabia/

Thebirdman321 · 06-20-2022, 08:53 AM

Abraham Ancer to LIV #20 ranked player in the world

Thebirdman321 · 06-21-2022, 07:08 AM

Now Brooks Koepka….

Gotta feel like the PGA Tour couldn’t have possibly played this any worse.

DegaBama · 06-21-2022, 09:31 AM

This has vibes of the IRL/CART split, ruined IndyCar racing. The PGA Tour is approaching this the same way the IRL did, trying to be high and mighty. It will not work.

Ferg1945 · 06-21-2022, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Thebirdman321

Now Brooks Koepka….

Gotta feel like the PGA Tour couldn’t have possibly played this any worse.

Players care about the 2 M's. Money & Majors.

If players are still able to play the Majors and earn significantly more money... I could see quite a few others jumping ship as well.

Once a few more jump ship and the LIV tour has a good roster, they might have a couple MEGA tournaments where first place pays $10-11M. $11M, $8.5M, $7.25M, $6M, $5M. Could be the top 5 payouts. They go by their own rules.

I know LIV is applying for World Golf Rankings. Other golfers might see a bright future in LIV. Curious to see who else leaves the PGA Tour.

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stanmarsh Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: mianus Mass Posts: 783	Aren't they independent contractors? You see Nascar drivers race in other series, baseball players play in the cuban or mexican league, basketball players play in China and even golfers play in the European or China league. Is it because the top players might make the ratings and attendance go down? __________________ Release the Epstein files

06-10-2022, 07:01 PM	#82
jdandns Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,824	LIV was originally going to play 72 hole tournaments like the PGA does but the sponsors needed those last 18 holes to store the remains of Jamal Khashoggi, the journalist they lured to their consulate in Istanbul under false pretenses for the purposes of murdering and dismembering him due to his criticism of their behavior that was validated beyond the shadow of a doubt specifically by what they did to him personally. __________________ Take a nap, bro.

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onenineeightsix Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3,402 onenineeightsixsportscards	Some people complaining about this or the Saudi regime would let them dismember their uncle for $120 million. The US does business with the Saudi’s, has for a long time, your car likely has their oil in it, but now because golf is involved it’s all gone too far? Crazy. __________________ http://www.society6.com/nahtesnihctuh Make your experience on the Blowout forums a better one and block user KhalDrogo today!

06-10-2022, 08:10 PM	#84
jdandns Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,824	True, but many of the players have individual sponsorships with various companies, so there will be surely be some maneuvering from some of them on a case-by-case basis. __________________ Take a nap, bro.

06-11-2022, 10:26 PM	#85
jdandns Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,824	4.75 million for Charl today. (4 big ones for the individual win and 750k as part of his four man team's 3 million dollar prize.) __________________ Take a nap, bro.

06-15-2022, 12:47 PM	#90
Brazenways Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 343 brazenways	Laugh out Loud vvvvv https://progolfweekly.com/saudi-back...tour-fan-shop/

06-15-2022, 03:59 PM	#91
JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 15,623	What I want to know is did anyone actually turn down 9 figures? They can all act high and mighty, but hell I'll sell out for 100m.

06-16-2022, 10:31 AM	#94
Bob Ross Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 5,071	Wait so Fanatics is funded by the Saudis?

06-20-2022, 08:53 AM	#97
Thebirdman321 Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 977 nocheckshere thebirdman321	Abraham Ancer to LIV #20 ranked player in the world

06-21-2022, 07:08 AM	#98
Thebirdman321 Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 977 nocheckshere thebirdman321	Now Brooks Koepka…. Gotta feel like the PGA Tour couldn’t have possibly played this any worse.

06-21-2022, 09:31 AM	#99
DegaBama Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Alabama Posts: 4,558	This has vibes of the IRL/CART split, ruined IndyCar racing. The PGA Tour is approaching this the same way the IRL did, trying to be high and mighty. It will not work.