How long until you would call out someone for not following through on a deal?

cardsharkk · 06-21-2022, 09:39 PM

This is not to bash. I truly am wondering. How long would you hold a HIGH END card for a buyer? How long would you wait for a deposit?
The sale was agreed to in Februrary for well over $300,000.

Keep in mind this person is an owner of a reputble grading company here in the USA. And keeps telling me he wants it for his PC. But tells me he is just so busy with shows etc to jump on plane to VT to pay and get the card yet.

I was also promised a deposit, about a month ago. Still cant seem to even get that. But tells me in July Or August he will come to complete the deal.

I know its a super high end deal which can't just happen via paypal. So I am trying to be reasonable here. Plus hes a reputable person in our hobby some of you prob know. Which makes this whole thing even tougher how to handle etc.

Truly looking for insight. Ive been doing my best to be patient and kind but not sure its working in my favor. And at the end of the day just wanna sell my card lol

Siberian13 · 06-21-2022, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cardsharkk

This is not to bash. I truly am wondering. How long would you hold a HIGH END card for a buyer? How long would you wait for a deposit?
The sale was agreed to in Februrary for well over $300,000.

Keep in mind this person is an owner of a reputble grading company here in the USA. And keeps telling me he wants it for his PC. But tells me he is just so busy with shows etc to jump on plane to VT to pay and get the card yet.

I was also promised a deposit, about a month ago. Still cant seem to even get that. But tells me in July Or August he will come to complete the deal.

I know its a super high end deal which can't just happen via paypal. So I am trying to be reasonable here. Plus hes a reputable person in our hobby some of you prob know. Which makes this whole thing even tougher how to handle etc.

Truly looking for insight. Ive been doing my best to be patient and kind but not sure its working in my favor. And at the end of the day just wanna sell my card lol

February? He should already be called out. Shouldn’t a reputable person follow through when they say they will. You aren’t reputable if this is how you handle a deaL of this size.

Blazed · 06-21-2022, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cardsharkk

This is not to bash. I truly am wondering. How long would you hold a HIGH END card for a buyer? How long would you wait for a deposit?
The sale was agreed to in Februrary for well over $300,000.

Keep in mind this person is an owner of a reputble grading company here in the USA. And keeps telling me he wants it for his PC. But tells me he is just so busy with shows etc to jump on plane to VT to pay and get the card yet.

I was also promised a deposit, about a month ago. Still cant seem to even get that. But tells me in July Or August he will come to complete the deal.

I know its a super high end deal which can't just happen via paypal. So I am trying to be reasonable here. Plus hes a reputable person in our hobby some of you prob know. Which makes this whole thing even tougher how to handle etc.

Truly looking for insight. Ive been doing my best to be patient and kind but not sure its working in my favor. And at the end of the day just wanna sell my card lol

Interesting. You basically called the person out or at least narrowed it down. But you handle the deal just like you would any other deal. Agreed upon time and deposit, neither was done. Time can be extended but no reason not to send a good faith deposit. So maybe someone changed their mind?

49ersSF · 06-21-2022, 10:17 PM

I doubt he will follow through with the deal if he has not already. Given the fact the market has dropped and with potential for a card of the magnitude of $300k to drop substantially I'm guessing the guy will not follow through with the deal.

jcmel323 · 06-21-2022, 10:18 PM

He tells the reason is because he's busy...
For 300k I take a plane and leave it to a relative of his.
If that's not ok for him, then the reason is $

Siberian13 · 06-21-2022, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 49ersSF

I doubt he will follow through with the deal if he has not already. Given the fact the market has dropped and with potential for a card of the magnitude of $300k to drop substantially I'm guessing the guy will not follow through with the deal.

Yeah curious what the card is. If it’s a Mahomes that was being bought around super bowl time or something else. $300k is pretty big

oldgoldy97 · 06-21-2022, 10:36 PM

What will it grade?

I bet a 10 (for him).

NYBBFAN · 06-21-2022, 11:44 PM

If you have that kind of money, you have people to handle this kind of thing for you. This deal isn’t going to happen, otherwise it already would have.

NCtheBBcradle · 06-22-2022, 12:25 AM

Your card, and your time have been held hostage.

Due to this putz, you have not been able to freely solicit or sell the item in a timely manner or at your convenience.

No deposit.
4 months.

Are you sure you're not being scammed? Because this is beyond the pale.

cardsharkk · 06-22-2022, 02:00 AM

Thanks for all the replies guys truly.

Its been mentally exhausting to feel to close, yet so far.

I did worry I may be getting scammed at first, as couldnt seem to get him to facetime me, after pushing back original date set for April. But we had a mutual friend who was going to same show recently, and they met, and my friend confirmed its him etc. And next day after said show, buyer told me will get flight booked and all that.

Even tho that was like 3-4 weeks ago. I'm told he's just super busy with upcoming shows and nationals. I guess his company is at nearly every show.

Its like no deal ive ever been invovled in thats for sure. But ive also never sold anything near this price, so trying to be kind and patient. But man its been tough

JeremyNick · 06-22-2022, 05:14 AM

4 months is 3 months and 21 days too long.

Call him out and move on. He ain’t buying. He’s stringing you along and hoping he can get it cheaper.

Boo · 06-22-2022, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by cardsharkk

This is not to bash. I truly am wondering. How long would you hold a HIGH END card for a buyer? How long would you wait for a deposit?
The sale was agreed to in Februrary for well over $300,000.

Keep in mind this person is an owner of a reputble grading company here in the USA. And keeps telling me he wants it for his PC. But tells me he is just so busy with shows etc to jump on plane to VT to pay and get the card yet.

I was also promised a deposit, about a month ago. Still cant seem to even get that. But tells me in July Or August he will come to complete the deal.

I know its a super high end deal which can't just happen via paypal. So I am trying to be reasonable here. Plus hes a reputable person in our hobby some of you prob know. Which makes this whole thing even tougher how to handle etc.

Truly looking for insight. Ive been doing my best to be patient and kind but not sure its working in my favor. And at the end of the day just wanna sell my card lol

Not sure there is such a thing. Call him out...I hope it is the person I'm thinking of!!

the mesiah · 06-22-2022, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Boo

Not sure there is such a thing. Call him out...I hope it is the person I'm thinking of!!

U know it is !

BostonNut · 06-22-2022, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Boo

Not sure there is such a thing. Call him out...I hope it is the person I'm thinking of!!

Glen has the cookies and spare room all made up for him!

Boo · 06-22-2022, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BostonNut

Glen has the cookies and spare room all made up for him!

Free stay at the B&B should be enough to get him on a plane to VT

no10pin · 06-22-2022, 08:57 AM

People on here will call someone out over 8 bucks, and you are worried that 4 months isn't long enough for a $300k deal?

It's done, he's not paying, call him out. The whole "I'm so busy" excuse is asinine. Tell him you'll hop on a plane and meet him at his next show to make the deal, and he'll have a different excuse.

TheFrenzy · 06-22-2022, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cardsharkk

Keep in mind this person is an owner of a reputble grading company here in the USA.

The only reputable grading company is Ruffleton Grading.

therealcjc33 · 06-22-2022, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by no10pin

People on here will call someone out over 8 bucks, and you are worried that 4 months isn't long enough for a $300k deal?

It's done, he's not paying, call him out. The whole "I'm so busy" excuse is asinine. Tell him you'll hop on a plane and meet him at his next show to make the deal, and he'll have a different excuse.

If the OP actually does this, I hope he charges the buyer for the plane ticket, hotel, food, etc.

Think of it as an inconvenience fee.

kidfan9 · 06-22-2022, 10:26 AM

Crazy story! Can you show us the card in the deal?

no10pin · 06-22-2022, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by therealcjc33

If the OP actually does this, I hope he charges the buyer for the plane ticket, hotel, food, etc.

Think of it as an inconvenience fee.

I don't disagree, but my guess is that there will be a reason that the 'buyer' can't make that work anyway.

JeremyNick · 06-22-2022, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

What will it grade?

I bet a 10 (for him).

Yeah but then he’ll get upcharged and he hates that.

Chuck Bartowski · 06-22-2022, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by cardsharkk

Thanks for all the replies guys truly.

Its been mentally exhausting to feel to close, yet so far.

I did worry I may be getting scammed at first, as couldnt seem to get him to facetime me, after pushing back original date set for April. But we had a mutual friend who was going to same show recently, and they met, and my friend confirmed its him etc. And next day after said show, buyer told me will get flight booked and all that.

Even tho that was like 3-4 weeks ago. I'm told he's just super busy with upcoming shows and nationals. I guess his company is at nearly every show.

Its like no deal ive ever been invovled in thats for sure. But ive also never sold anything near this price, so trying to be kind and patient. But man its been tough

Can't you agree to meet at nationals and get the deal done? Are you not in the states where you can get there easily?

TheFrenzy · 06-22-2022, 10:52 AM

Man, that would suck if the hobby fat cat already had a copy of the card and was only tying up OP’s card with pointless delay tactics while he sought buyers willing to pay more without competition.

pingbling23 · 06-22-2022, 10:55 AM

Something tells me we’re missing several months of context. Post every piece of communication op.

cardsharkk · 06-23-2022, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by pingbling23

Something tells me we’re missing several months of context. Post every piece of communication op.

Honestly not really missing anything
Ill try to add important details:

One thing I should mention to be fair, is I do suffer from a really bad anxiety issue. Which bears mention because its is the only reason I havent jumped on a plane and just gone to him. I dont drive, etc.

Which I've explained to each buyer whos contacted, including him. And also explaining I would need them to come to my home state and set up the wire transfer with my bank manager. Card is in safety deposit box at that bank etc.

Which was agreed to by buyer of course. He's even asked me multiple times to send best airport for him to fly into. As recently as like 3-4 weeks ago.

In that last message asking me about which airport, he assured me he will be here and send a deposit before his dates. and was looking at two dates either July 11th or August 3rd. Which I did agree to at the time. So I gotta give him until then to be fair.
I really appreciate everyones responses. I guess i just needed to vent for now while still waiting. Really hoping I update the thread soon with positive news!

06-21-2022, 09:39 PM	#1
cardsharkk Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 3,578	How long would you wait/hold a high end card for a buyer for? deposit etc? This is not to bash. I truly am wondering. How long would you hold a HIGH END card for a buyer? How long would you wait for a deposit? The sale was agreed to in Februrary for well over $300,000. Keep in mind this person is an owner of a reputble grading company here in the USA. And keeps telling me he wants it for his PC. But tells me he is just so busy with shows etc to jump on plane to VT to pay and get the card yet. I was also promised a deposit, about a month ago. Still cant seem to even get that. But tells me in July Or August he will come to complete the deal. I know its a super high end deal which can't just happen via paypal. So I am trying to be reasonable here. Plus hes a reputable person in our hobby some of you prob know. Which makes this whole thing even tougher how to handle etc. Truly looking for insight. Ive been doing my best to be patient and kind but not sure its working in my favor. And at the end of the day just wanna sell my card lol Last edited by cardsharkk; 06-22-2022 at 01:52 AM.

06-21-2022, 10:17 PM	#4
49ersSF Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: San Francisco Posts: 4,258	I doubt he will follow through with the deal if he has not already. Given the fact the market has dropped and with potential for a card of the magnitude of $300k to drop substantially I'm guessing the guy will not follow through with the deal. __________________ They see what they have been told to see.

06-21-2022, 10:36 PM	#7
oldgoldy97 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 52,704	What will it grade? I bet a 10 (for him). __________________ Truly riveting discussion: that’s what your wife/girlfriend/sheep said.

06-21-2022, 11:44 PM	#8
NYBBFAN Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 5,143	If you have that kind of money, you have people to handle this kind of thing for you. This deal isn’t going to happen, otherwise it already would have. __________________ https://gallery.us175.com/ https://inv.us175.com/wantlist

06-22-2022, 02:00 AM	#10
cardsharkk Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 3,578	Thanks for all the replies guys truly. Its been mentally exhausting to feel to close, yet so far. I did worry I may be getting scammed at first, as couldnt seem to get him to facetime me, after pushing back original date set for April. But we had a mutual friend who was going to same show recently, and they met, and my friend confirmed its him etc. And next day after said show, buyer told me will get flight booked and all that. Even tho that was like 3-4 weeks ago. I'm told he's just super busy with upcoming shows and nationals. I guess his company is at nearly every show. Its like no deal ive ever been invovled in thats for sure. But ive also never sold anything near this price, so trying to be kind and patient. But man its been tough Last edited by cardsharkk; 06-22-2022 at 02:14 AM.

06-21-2022, 10:18 PM	#5
jcmel323 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 2,945	He tells the reason is because he's busy... For 300k I take a plane and leave it to a relative of his. If that's not ok for him, then the reason is $

06-22-2022, 12:25 AM	#9
NCtheBBcradle Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 298	Your card, and your time have been held hostage. Due to this putz, you have not been able to freely solicit or sell the item in a timely manner or at your convenience. No deposit. 4 months. Are you sure you're not being scammed? Because this is beyond the pale.

06-22-2022, 05:14 AM	#11
JeremyNick Banned Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 22,801	4 months is 3 months and 21 days too long. Call him out and move on. He ain’t buying. He’s stringing you along and hoping he can get it cheaper.

06-22-2022, 08:57 AM	#16
no10pin Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 16,928 no10pin no10pin	People on here will call someone out over 8 bucks, and you are worried that 4 months isn't long enough for a $300k deal? It's done, he's not paying, call him out. The whole "I'm so busy" excuse is asinine. Tell him you'll hop on a plane and meet him at his next show to make the deal, and he'll have a different excuse. __________________ Always looking for more George Brett stuff. Need more rookies, low numbered inserts/parallels and on-card autos (no Panini).

06-22-2022, 10:26 AM	#19
kidfan9 Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,639	Crazy story! Can you show us the card in the deal? __________________ Ted Williams-Baseball's last .400 hitter

06-22-2022, 10:52 AM	#23
TheFrenzy Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Texan in AZ Posts: 44,115	Man, that would suck if the hobby fat cat already had a copy of the card and was only tying up OP’s card with pointless delay tactics while he sought buyers willing to pay more without competition.

06-22-2022, 10:55 AM	#24
pingbling23 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 15,984 pingbling23	Something tells me we’re missing several months of context. Post every piece of communication op.