LeBron James Triple Logoman arrives on Goldin auction block

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

The first listing was a scam.

They're all over Ebay.





You've been in this hobby exactly how long?

I didn't see the dates sorry. The ebay one sold a day after the Goldin one. So yeah obviously the ebay listing was fake.

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by Nomad

If the most important modern card does not have to do with Steph Curry, I think it's living slightly in a previous era.

I remember when people were saying this about kawhi Leonard.

[Nomad]

After he won his fourth ring?

[mc1]

Originally Posted by Nomad

After he won his fourth ring?

Did it all on his own, huh?

[Nomad]

I mean, it was not accidental it happened on his watch, but it depends on how you define modern... I was thinking last decade.

Is there a comparable card with Curry and other greats in the preferred J West?

[auburn35]

Originally Posted by pcptrade

Anyone knows who the current owner is?

Unless it was recently sold, Bill Lee should still be the current owner.

[Pat3ntP3nd1ng]

So based on this ridiculous sale price, the Triple Logoman of Jordan/Kobe/Lebron going through Goldin soon (which I believe is Game Worn as well) should go for about $654million.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

I don’t hang around these basketball threads too much, so I apologize if this has been answered before: I follow Goldin on IG, so I’ve been seeing all the hype for his Logoman auctions. I keep noticing that he just gets them graded as “authentic” by PSA with no grade. Is that new, or common practice for cards like that?

[90skid]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

I don’t hang around these basketball threads too much, so I apologize if this has been answered before: I follow Goldin on IG, so I’ve been seeing all the hype for his Logoman auctions. I keep noticing that he just gets them graded as “authentic” by PSA with no grade. Is that new, or common practice for cards like that?

Goldin does not submit these for grading himself, they come to him as consignment - so the owner selling the card is the one who decided how it was to be graded. In this case, we don't know - either they purposely submitted it just to be slabbed as authentic for protection/authentication or the owner put a minimum grade result and it did not hit that so they just mark it authentic (aka if this doesn't get a PSA 9, then just slab it as Authentic).

[hairyangryfella]

Originally Posted by 90skid

Goldin does not submit these for grading himself, they come to him as consignment - so the owner selling the card is the one who decided how it was to be graded. In this case, we don't know - either they purposely submitted it just to be slabbed as authentic for protection/authentication or the owner put a minimum grade result and it did not hit that so they just mark it authentic (aka if this doesn't get a PSA 9, then just slab it as Authentic).

I don't believe this is entirely true - if you submit raw cards it is my understanding they send them for grading and take the cost of that out of the end price.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by 90skid

Goldin does not submit these for grading himself, they come to him as consignment - so the owner selling the card is the one who decided how it was to be graded. In this case, we don't know - either they purposely submitted it just to be slabbed as authentic for protection/authentication or the owner put a minimum grade result and it did not hit that so they just mark it authentic (aka if this doesn't get a PSA 9, then just slab it as Authentic).

Makes sense. That’s what I figured. Thanks for the reply.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by hairyangryfella

I don't believe this is entirely true - if you submit raw cards it is my understanding they send them for grading and take the cost of that out of the end price.

I’m assuming in those situations if they see a major flaw, of something that would keep it from getting at least a 9, they will just slab it “authentic”.

[Lee42]

Originally Posted by hairyangryfella

I don't believe this is entirely true - if you submit raw cards it is my understanding they send them for grading and take the cost of that out of the end price.

This is correct..... I sent a raw card to Goldin, they got it graded and the price was deducted from the sale price.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by Lee42

This is correct..... I sent a raw card to Goldin, they got it graded and the price was deducted from the sale price.

So Goldin IS taking a look at the cards and if they think it won’t grade well just getting it slabbed “authentic”? I guess it’s not a big deal with 1/1 cards, but it would annoy me as a bidder on other cards.

[pcptrade]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

So Goldin IS taking a look at the cards and if they think it won’t grade well just getting it slabbed “authentic”? I guess it’s not a big deal with 1/1 cards, but it would annoy me as a bidder on other cards.

I don't think thats true. Goldin (Ken or his employees) will take your high end raw card to PSA for grading. It is up to the owner to decide what minimum grade they would be comfortable with. Some owners prefer an authentic slab instead of lets say a numerical grade below 7. I wouldn't be surprised if that is what happened with the Lebron triple logoman.

[nbahobbyaddict]

Originally Posted by 90skid

Goldin does not submit these for grading himself, they come to him as consignment - so the owner selling the card is the one who decided how it was to be graded. In this case, we don't know - either they purposely submitted it just to be slabbed as authentic for protection/authentication or the owner put a minimum grade result and it did not hit that so they just mark it authentic (aka if this doesn't get a PSA 9, then just slab it as Authentic).

Sorry but that’s just not correct. If someone submits raw cards of sufficient value, they’ll get them graded for the consignor.

[nbahobbyaddict]

Originally Posted by pcptrade

I don't think thats true. Goldin (Ken or his employees) will take your high end raw card to PSA for grading.

Not just PSA, they’ve submitted numerous cards to Beckett, as well.

[pcptrade]

Originally Posted by nbahobbyaddict

Not just PSA, they’ve submitted numerous cards to Beckett, as well.

Yes, heritage auction also provides such service to their consignors for high end raw cards if I am not wrong. Someone from Goldin actually takes the raw card with them to get it graded.

[hermanotarjeta]

I wonder how much in tax the owner of the card had to pay after the sale.

A $2.4 million dollar sale could generate as much as $1.2 million dollars in short term capital gains depending on which state you file in!

And also, how would you calculate your capital gains - how much you purchased the card for? But if you pulled it from a pack or break, do you just consider the cost of the pack/break?

[Lee42]

Originally Posted by nbahobbyaddict

Not just PSA, they’ve submitted numerous cards to Beckett, as well.

My card was graded by Beckett through Goldin Auctions. Ended up an 8.5 which for a thick card like it was (which had some edge chipping) was about right.

[mcgee2134]

Originally Posted by Pat3ntP3nd1ng

So based on this ridiculous sale price, the Triple Logoman of Jordan/Kobe/Lebron going through Goldin soon (which I believe is Game Worn as well) should go for about $654million.

Crazy that the Exquisite actually went for less $1.68 million.
That Flawless is going to lose value real quick.

[ninjacookies]

2 months in and triple jerry westmen already in capitulation?



Where else am I supposed to park these Arby's checks. My metaverse offspring need to eat.

[boxbuster7]

for somebody who has sold through goldin, do they usually keep the entire buyer premium? or does it depend on the card?

[bmf]

The last auction had so much more hype and publicity than this one, which had to make a difference. Personally, I’d have much rather had the Exquisite, especially at the lower price.

[Pat3ntP3nd1ng]

Originally Posted by bmf

The last auction had so much more hype and publicity than this one, which had to make a difference. Personally, I’d have much rather had the Exquisite, especially at the lower price.

Originally Posted by mcgee2134

Crazy that the Exquisite actually went for less $1.68 million.
That Flawless is going to lose value real quick.

Whoever won that auction got a steal. There is zero chance that the Lebron triple logoman has more historical significance than the Kobe/Jordan/Lebron. That flawless card was extremely overhyped and honestly if it relisted today wouldn’t be surprised if it got half of what it originally got.