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Old 09-23-2022, 04:11 PM   #26
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Assuming print run isn't through the roof, HHN will be the best bet. Should be actions and chrome variations of all the big name RCs, plus maybe some longshot throwbacks.

If you only include Wander, Pristine was an incredibly fun rip...and absolutely loaded with color/low numbered stuff. It got pricy (justifiably so), but if you got in when it was less than $3,000 a case you wouldn't be too disappointed. It wasn't made in high quantity, very unusual for a 2019+ Topps product.
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Old 09-23-2022, 04:21 PM   #27
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Assuming print run isn't through the roof, HHN will be the best bet. Should be actions and chrome variations of all the big name RCs, plus maybe some longshot throwbacks.

If you only include Wander, Pristine was an incredibly fun rip...and absolutely loaded with color/low numbered stuff. It got pricy (justifiably so), but if you got in when it was less than $3,000 a case you wouldn't be too disappointed. It wasn't made in high quantity, very unusual for a 2019+ Topps product.
The quality of HHN will need to improve. Last two years the condition of the cards was not good. I opened one case in 2020 and only blasters in 2021 and that has been the least I have opened in a while of HHN due to the condition of the base cards.
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Old 09-23-2022, 04:23 PM   #28
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As usual, depending on checklist and buy- in price, 2022 bowman draft is always a strong candidate.

It will likely come out in 2023, however.
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Old 09-23-2022, 05:35 PM   #29
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Stadium Club Chrome. Sure it'll drop around Spring Training 2023. But it will be dope.
Got Dropped from the release list sadly - Not looking good.

Please prove me wrong, i need SCC =(
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Old 09-23-2022, 05:43 PM   #30
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HHN is missin those dope bangers, tho.
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Old 09-23-2022, 06:06 PM   #31
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Got Dropped from the release list sadly - Not looking good.

Please prove me wrong, i need SCC =(

Like as in they don't have a date or they are just not going to have it? It's such a good product and is already something that spurred a frenzy for a base card of a third year player. Why the hell would they drop this?
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Old 09-23-2022, 06:08 PM   #32
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The quality of HHN will need to improve. Last two years the condition of the cards was not good. I opened one case in 2020 and only blasters in 2021 and that has been the least I have opened in a while of HHN due to the condition of the base cards.
At least that's being true to the original when they remake the 1971 set. I think part of the charm with Heritage is the condition sensitivity. 73 with the black back is of course going to be pretty tough. But then not everything getting a 10 actually gives 10 grades some meaning.
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Old 09-26-2022, 11:44 AM   #33
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I looked at HHN sales on eBay and it seems like a lot of low-end cards.

Need to look into Topps Fire later. Hoping that SCC doesn't get canned, would be weird if it did.

FF still leading the pack but I suppose there's some time left in 2022 for a possible surprise.
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Old 09-26-2022, 12:35 PM   #34
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im glad that Topps put so many Rookie Cards in 2021 Bowman's Best

did collectors a favor
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Old 09-26-2022, 12:56 PM   #35
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This is the 2nd time I didn’t get it - what’s ASRC?
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Old 09-26-2022, 12:58 PM   #36
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This is the 2nd time I didn’t get it - what’s ASRC?
Probably All Star Rookie Cup from last year
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Old 09-26-2022, 01:32 PM   #37
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Why is 2022 Topps Finest Flashbacks the product of the year?
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Yeah 2022 FF pounded me - I got better value opening flagship Series 2 honestly.
No kidding. I got slaughtered on 2022 FF. All of these huge cards being posted are not the norm. Only good boxes will be talked about.

I'd say most boxes are sub $50 in contents, easily.
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Old 09-26-2022, 01:40 PM   #38
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No kidding. I got slaughtered on 2022 FF. All of these huge cards being posted are not the norm. Only good boxes will be talked about.

I'd say most boxes are sub $50 in contents, easily.
I ripped 4 boxes. Even my 1-2 "garbage" boxes hold more than $50 (each) in contents.

How many boxes did you rip?
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Old 09-26-2022, 01:46 PM   #39
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So far, for me the best card design (which is all I care about) is 2022 Tribute base.

Best auto set so far is the Clearly Authentic "1955" autos, although the 1988 Topps Big autos in Archives will give them a run for their money depending on the checklist.

2022 Finest Flashbacks features a mediocre mid 90's design (i.e. 1995 Finest) and an utterly ordinary checklist.
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Old 09-26-2022, 01:56 PM   #40
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I ripped 4 boxes. Even my 1-2 "garbage" boxes hold more than $50 (each) in contents.

How many boxes did you rip?
I did 6 and the best card was a Julio base x2
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Old 09-26-2022, 02:06 PM   #41
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I did 6 and the best card was a Julio base x2
Just out of curiosity, what were some of your numbered hits?

I didn't post my boxes, but I did 9 and nothing major but hit a lot of stuff that moves. I will likely be close to breaking even at <$220/box while keeping the rookies to grade/hold.

Lowest was a Trea Turner /5, best card was probably a Vlad Gold Auto.
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Old 09-26-2022, 02:11 PM   #42
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I looked at HHN sales on eBay and it seems like a lot of low-end cards.

Need to look into Topps Fire later. Hoping that SCC doesn't get canned, would be weird if it did.

FF still leading the pack but I suppose there's some time left in 2022 for a possible surprise.
Heritage is the one set I chase every year. Really looking forward to ripping a ton Heritage isn't for everyone, but I love it.
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Old 09-26-2022, 02:13 PM   #43
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Just out of curiosity, what were some of your numbered hits?

I didn't post my boxes, but I did 9 and nothing major but hit a lot of stuff that moves. I will likely be close to breaking even at <$220/box while keeping the rookies to grade/hold.

Lowest was a Trea Turner /5, best card was probably a Vlad Gold Auto.
Yordan /50 gold the other best card. 1 nobody protector /10 that sat for over a week at $10 BIN, no reds, no oranges, no rose, no autos, no black. Not a single thing lower than /35 other than the protector. All gold /50's of bums, a few Prism /35's of bums.

EDIT: sorry, the Yordan was actually a Gold /50, not Prism

It was a disgraceful product for me. There are just way too many nobody's on the checklist vs. number of parallels per box.

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Old 09-26-2022, 02:17 PM   #44
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I’ve enjoyed FF this year, and have bought a total of 6 boxes- each one at random. While every one wasn’t a winner, I agree it was a very fun rip. I just listed on eBay (or have already sold) most of the notable hits and should be able to recoup most of my costs while keeping all the base cards, so I’m in the camp of believing that product holds pretty good value.

The notable hits for mine:

2 Autos- Ripken /25 and Salvador Perez /15
Superfractor- Manny Machado
2 Protector Refractors /10- Mookie Betts and Tim Anderson
3 Black Refractors /25- Mookie was the best one
5 Gold Refractors /50- Pete Alonso was the best one
6 base refractors + 2 SP refractors (Bo and Ichiro)
2 JRod, 3 Witt, 3 Wander
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Old 09-26-2022, 02:18 PM   #45
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The resale value is definitely not there for 2022 Finest Flashbacks for the price of the boxes.

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Yordan /50 gold the other best card. 1 nobody protector /10 that sat for over a week at $10 BIN, no reds, no oranges, no rose, no autos, no black. Not a single thing lower than /35 other than the protector. All gold /50's of bums, a few Prism /35's of bums.

EDIT: sorry, the Yordan was actually a Gold /50, not Prism

It was a disgraceful product for me. There are just way too many nobody's on the checklist vs. number of parallels per box.
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Old 09-26-2022, 02:32 PM   #46
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FF is so far been easily best value for me.
2 Boxes bought. Griffey SP Refractor, Hernadez Auto, and multiple copies of most of the top rookies (Julio, wander, Cruz, Witt). Shoulders above anything else I've been in on.

I guess a lagging second place would be the 3D packs, super easy to with the number of rookies in it.
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Old 09-26-2022, 02:39 PM   #47
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Too bad it is a visual abomination, maybe more people would have cared
Too bad Topps couldn't manage to get an Adley rookie into their 2022 sets. It might have helped shore up their credibility w/r/t knowing what a rookie card is.
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Old 09-26-2022, 02:40 PM   #48
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Yeah, case in point. Most posts are just the ones with above average boxes and up.

I'm done with this product. Rest of the boxes will be sold sealed for break even. It's the best thing to do.
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Old 09-26-2022, 02:49 PM   #49
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Too bad it is a visual abomination, maybe more people would have cared
Couldn't agree more.
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Old 09-26-2022, 02:52 PM   #50
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I ripped 4 boxes. Even my 1-2 "garbage" boxes hold more than $50 (each) in contents.

How many boxes did you rip?
I basically only buy singles. And FF is the absolute best to do just that. Not a ton of hits and like I got Jazz prism from last year for under $50 and got a Mookie /15 rose gold this year for $50. If I pulled those two cards, it would be two successful boxes relatively. And neither sell for that much.
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