2022 Topps Chrome Logofractor!

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by The Accountant

I can confirm multiple sales at $110, $120. My advice is buy from reliable sellers who are not weighing boxes. If you see listing of singles as well as boxes, that may be a red flag.

But the above Blowouters are not wrong. There are still boxes in the $95-$105 range. Can't be blind to it, even if you want to push a certain narrative. Let the results speak for themselves (and the Julio RC to own...).

The boxes can be weighed to find what exactly?

[cj828282]

Well a sealed case was bought at $4100 so maybe a slight movement up. Will be interesting this weekend with Topps and MLB sold out but I am not seeing $150 boxes yet.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by bustsomewax

Insane how worked up people are about this product.

It's a great product, end of story. Remember the ones being negative about it were also saying no way it would sell for 2x MSRP. This proved to be incorrect quickly.

Share those posts.

Originally Posted by eastbayak

I never said that there weren't any cheaper boxes available on eBay, I only shared that one sold for $128.50 shipped because I thought that was an incredible sale (and it showed the short-term potential for these boxes). How is that pathetic? Can't I share facts like you? This is a message board.

You shared a sale that was a huge outlier that hasn’t been paid for. And followed it up with a claim that they would hit $150-200 soon. Yes, that’s pathetic.

[The Accountant]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

This just in...pump that the cheaper boxes are probably weighed. The more expensive sales are not weighed.

LOL - I feel like blowout. People are going to pay $10 more to buy from BO then fly-by-night retail flipper on ebay.

Personally I'd spend $10 more on a 2500 FB with 99.9%/100% seller over a 37 FB 97.8% feedback seller ALL DAY.

[Dbacksbaseball]

Originally Posted by Jed Clampett

^^^
For a guy who’s posted in the past that you’re a doctor, you seem to have lots of time to post around here

It will be a lawyer next week, or whatever trendy topic falls into the off topic that they can give their 7000000th post on in 5 years on the board.

$128 shipped is the highest sale. I took the guy on here who posted it at face value. They are still around $100 consistently. Double MSRP.

So probably not $150 by EOWeekend. See how easy it is to say you are wrong?

Funny how a week ago, product wasn't even worth MSRP according the mouth breathers. Funny how the goal post change and people just pound their fist on their chest because they dont want to say, 'yea I was wrong' on an internet forum.

Clahns.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by The Accountant

He's always angry LOL.

Little guy, Big anger

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by bustsomewax

Insane how worked up people are about this product.

It's a great product, end of story. Remember the ones being negative about it were also saying no way it would sell for 2x MSRP. This proved to be incorrect quickly.

No question this was a great product to get at msrp - I’m happy for everyone who was able to secure a box.

What’s appalling is the relentless need to pump a product that doesn’t need pumping - a clear sign of greed and pettiness.

That’s what has people worked up - the fact that there are still so many shady characters in this hobby.

[The Accountant]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

No question this was a great product to get at msrp - I’m happy for everyone who was able to secure a box.

What’s appalling is the relentless need to pump a product that doesn’t need pumping - a clear sign of greed and pettiness.

That’s what has people worked up - the fact that there are still so many shady characters in this hobby.

I'm convinced pumping (at least on this forum) doesn't work anymore. This isn't Project 2020. People are more educated and make "smarter" decisions with their money. The same thing happened on Top Shot, NFTs, and crypto. Pumping, if anything, has a very minuscule result nowadays.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

No question this was a great product to get at msrp - I’m happy for everyone who was able to secure a box.

What’s appalling is the relentless need to pump a product that doesn’t need pumping - a clear sign of greed and pettiness.

That’s what has people worked up - the fact that there are still so many shady characters in this hobby.

The difference is I'll post what the sales are when they happen. The other side will only post things to fit their narrative.

Who is the one who posted that the $3500 Julio actually did get paid for?

I don't understand how $4k 40 boxes cases make any sense if Julio is $1400, Witt is $300, and Wander is $250-300. A Wander Blue sold for $261 and Gold for $650. Do you take all those singles and $1k, or the 40 box case?

[bustsomewax]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Share those posts.

For starters, here's you being wrong thinking these wouldn't re-sell well.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=5769

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=5749

[The Accountant]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

The difference is I'll post what the sales are when they happen. The other side will only post things to fit their narrative.

Who is the one who posted that the $3500 Julio actually did get paid for?

I don't understand how $4k 40 boxes cases make any sense if Julio is $1400, Witt is $300, and Wander is $250-300. A Wander Blue sold for $261 and Gold for $650. Do you take all those singles and $1k, or the 40 box case?

Exactly why I elected to sell my boxes. However, you also can't ignore the monsters lurking in these boxes... Rose Gold 1/1 Julio is an absolutely massive card. Then you have Cruz and Wander who have two 1/1s and then Super autos for misc players.

At MSRP this will go down as one of the best products this year.

[Pacmeyer]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

The difference is I'll post what the sales are when they happen. The other side will only post things to fit their narrative.

Who is the one who posted that the $3500 Julio actually did get paid for?

I don't understand how $4k 40 boxes cases make any sense if Julio is $1400, Witt is $300, and Wander is $250-300. A Wander Blue sold for $261 and Gold for $650. Do you take all those singles and $1k, or the 40 box case?

But the 40 box case could maybe, possibly, you never know contain a million dollar or whatever card. Plus opening packs makes you feel like a kid in a candy store.

[Nester99]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

No question this was a great product to get at msrp - I’m happy for everyone who was able to secure a box.

What’s appalling is the relentless need to pump a product that doesn’t need pumping - a clear sign of greed and pettiness.

That’s what has people worked up - the fact that there are still so many shady characters in this hobby.

BO = I like this thing
HERMAN = STOP PUMPING!!! ITS SO SHADY !!

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Share those posts.


You shared a sale that was a huge outlier that hasn’t been paid for. And followed it up with a claim that they would hit $150-200 soon. Yes, that’s pathetic.

I shared an observation ($128.50 eBay auction) and simply agreed with another BO member's comment (that BO member said: "Could see them in the $150-200 range soon").

But to each their own!

Originally Posted by Dbacksbaseball

It will be a lawyer next week, or whatever trendy topic falls into the off topic that they can give their 7000000th post on in 5 years on the board.

$128 shipped is the highest sale. I took the guy on here who posted it at face value. They are still around $100 consistently. Double MSRP.

So probably not $150 by EOWeekend. See how easy it is to say you are wrong?

Funny how a week ago, product wasn't even worth MSRP according the mouth breathers. Funny how the goal post change and people just pound their fist on their chest because they dont want to say, 'yea I was wrong' on an internet forum.

Clahns.

100%.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by bustsomewax

For starters, here's you being wrong thinking these wouldn't re-sell well.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=5769

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=5749

Touche! I was wrong about the immediate flip.

[The Accountant]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Touche! I was wrong about the immediate flip.

If that's any implication, I wonder what percentage of those 32k posts you were wrong in

[bustsomewax]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Touche! I was wrong about the immediate flip.

Wanna go on record for the mid and long term flip?

P.S. Congrats on 32k posts.

[ThoseBackPages]

imagine if this product had a Julio Rookie Card?

crazy times indeed!

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by The Accountant

Exactly why I elected to sell my boxes. However, you also can't ignore the monsters lurking in these boxes... Rose Gold 1/1 Julio is an absolutely massive card. Then you have Cruz and Wander who have two 1/1s and then Super autos for misc players.

At MSRP this will go down as one of the best products this year.

As we saw with the LeBron triple logoman, the irrational chase for the big hit continues to be inappropriately priced into the wax.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by bustsomewax

Wanna go on record for the mid and long term flip?

March 2023 - $100
October 2023 - $75

I'm sure you'll understand if you've been paying attention.

[The Accountant]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

As we saw with the LeBron triple logoman, the irrational chase for the big hit continues to be inappropriately priced into the wax.

You aren't wrong when you're right! If Julio is a $50k card and there's 50k boxes, then starting that adds $1 to value of each box hypothetically. Every time a box gets opened that $50k gets reallocated to the remaining boxes.

[bustsomewax]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

March 2023 - $100
October 2023 - $75

I'm sure you'll understand if you've been paying attention.

So it turns out you wont lose money flipping these.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by The Accountant

You aren't wrong when you're right! If Julio is a $50k card and there's 50k boxes, then starting that adds $1 to value of each box hypothetically. Every time a box gets opened that $50k gets reallocated to the remaining boxes.

The hobby suffers from innumeracy. It's why we need complete economic meltdown before we return to reasonable pricing. The big 3, distributors, and breakers can continue to price gouge because people don't know any better.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by bustsomewax

So it turns out you wont lose money flipping these.

At $75, I'd net a couple bucks per box after selling on eBay.

Care to share your predictions? I love speculating on this stuff.

[bustsomewax]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

The hobby suffers from innumeracy. It's why we need complete economic meltdown before we return to reasonable pricing. The big 3, distributors, and breakers can continue to price gouge because people don't know any better.

I don't disagree with this. We are the select few that do know better though and it's what makes things so frustrating. I'd love for things to go back to a pre-2018 environment for our hobby, but I don't ever see that happening.

However, Logofractor was an exception to this new rule, and if you were smart enough, you would of identified this right away given the information we had early on.