Running CGC (old CSG) Order Tracker

[zdawgs]

Originally Posted by Brwdot

The truth of the matter is only people who don't know anything about the hobby submit their cards to CSG.

Sure, they might like the look of the holders, but they aren't very knowledgable. They are not people with strong long term collections nor are they people who are making smart investments. They are only people who are trying to make a quick buck or have some weird fandom thing going on.

But I've yet to see any people who are actually knowledgable as far as cards go send them to CSG. Why would they?

As much as you want to put CSG and PSA in the same sentence they do not belong. PSA grades cards, CSG just caters to "omg slab is a slab" mentality.

I'm happy for those getting their cheap collections into CSG slabs. That is what they are meant for. They are the new budget grading. They are grading far easier than PSA. No one sends their good cards to CSG for grading, why would they?

You know how people say.. well PSA didn't give it an 8, I'll give SGC a try! Well, CSG is just the next stop along the way and they will wind up giving out that 8 or 9 that you need. Or that 10 on the PSA 9.

Brew, Have you watched any videos on YouTube of people cracking CSG 9.5s out of cases and send them to PSA? If you haven't, you should. About 1/2 come back as PSA 10s. So obviously you know jack crap about comparing CSG and PSA grading.

For the record, I will send my cards to PSA now with pricing where it is at while guys like you are willing to pay the PSA premium. It would be foolish not to if you want to make a few bucks. PSA has the most inexperienced graders out there (not totally their fault because they had to hire enough to get that backlog done and prevent a future one). Grading is definitely not any tougher with PSA (data suggests otherwise and you and others try to make excuses for why that is the case). If you believe it is, you are a PSA shill.

[discodanman45]

PSA is statistically the easiest grader for 10's. Take a look at Gemrate data and tell me otherwise. It may be easier to get a PSA 10 than a GMA 10. Well, unless PSA is trying to POP control a specific card. Actually Beckett is the easiest. 51.9% PSA gem rate in August for 2020 cards. CSG was under 30%. People that graded with both CSG and PSA know who is actually the harder grader.

https://mobile.twitter.com/gemrate/s...749633/photo/3

[grade]

Rev talking about not selling a UTRA MODERN slab. LOL

These are 30+ yr slabs. Rev come back 30 years later and see if you still have a slab worth anything KRILLLLLL lol.

[grade]

statistically GMA is the most consistent cause they have the same guy grading for years.


Statistics is only part of the equation. Common sense is also a big part of the equation and CSG fan bois obviously lack common sense cause they insist CSG is better. LOL

[Brwdot]

Originally Posted by The_Reverend

People dog CSG because of the difference in what people pay for a red and white slab. I post my Kirill in PSA/CSG/SGC slabs. I would not sell any of the. At a huge discount, hockey collectors collect the CARD far more than other sports and want high graded cards. My last 50 card CSG submission I CLEARED after fees 2100 and kept 4 CSG 10. You never go broke taking a profit and I don’t ever ask what if!

Hockey population reports are low to none on the things I have sent recently and with that I will set my price.

Nothing you are saying is even true.

People dog CSG because:
No integrity or consistency (slab changes)
No grading standard (extremely tough to extremely lenient grading in a short period of time)
Overpriced

There is a laundry list of reasons why that are consistently stated again and again.

There is just no positives to grading with CSG but tons of negatives. I kept the list short just to disprove the nonsense you're putting forth.

You want your cards in slabs and don't care which ones they are in. Congrats for you. Just because you don't care doesn't mean the reason why others are saying CSG is a joke is because of what PSA sells relative to it. The fact of the matter is there is a reason why PSA sells for way more than CSG and why CSG is getting beaten into the ground.

CSG slabs have about the same integrity as BCCG ones do. You want a slab and a number for a cheap price? There you go. Have at it.

There are tons of people that were having fun submitting to BCCG over the years that now look at those cases and are like... man, was I really this out of touch?

[The_Reverend]

Originally Posted by zdawgs

Brew, Have you watched any videos on YouTube of people cracking CSG 9.5s out of cases and send them to PSA? If you haven't, you should. About 1/2 come back as PSA 10s. So obviously you know jack crap about comparing CSG and PSA grading.

For the record, I will send my cards to PSA now with pricing where it is at while guys like you are willing to pay the PSA premium. It would be foolish not to if you want to make a few bucks. PSA has the most inexperienced graders out there (not totally their fault because they had to hire enough to get that backlog done and prevent a future one). Grading is definitely not any tougher with PSA (data suggests otherwise and you and others try to make excuses for why that is the case). If you believe it is, you are a PSA shill.

He is a shill! Post some of your amazing collection so we CSG submitters can salute you. I am talking to the shill and not yo Zdawg! I have him on my ignore. I wonder how long he has even been in the hobby? 1988 for me! Why does he even come into the CSG thread? Attention! Trolls are going to troll and make it on alot of ignore list.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

PSA is statistically the easiest grader for 10's. Take a look at Gemrate data and tell me otherwise. It may be easier to get a PSA 10 than a GMA 10. Well, unless PSA is trying to POP control a specific card. Actually Beckett is the easiest. 51.9% PSA gem rate in August for 2020 cards. CSG was under 30%. People that graded with both CSG and PSA know who is actually the harder grader.

https://mobile.twitter.com/gemrate/s...749633/photo/3

Isn’t the argument that people grade with PSA for $$$ while people grade with everyone else to collect? I swear that’s what I’ve been told.

[Brwdot]

Oh no, ignored again. Whatever will I do. In your world the only thing that exists is Kirill Kaprizov and CSG. You aren't moving the needle as hard as you try. But keep pumping both to the moon til you're rich.

We get it, you like CSG and own some Kirill cards. So amazing seeing Kirill in CSG holders. Sheesh. You'd be smart to just crack them all out of those CSG holders as when explodes the first thing you're going to do is sell. By then PSA is going to have harsher standards. That's just some free advice for you there.

I know PSA costs a bit more and thats why you're in on CSG since it's budgetville and you're going for that come up but there's a smart way to go about it.

[mnckla22]

Originally Posted by grade

CSG need to pass GMA first. Then start the battle with BCCG. lol

I did bulk with CSG at the very beginning. My mistake. The slabs are now outdated labels, Graded with old grading scale. Graded with strict standards, The certification tool is mismatched with the serial numbers, my 9.5 labels shows up as 10's on the website. Have no idea why CSG would mismatch certifications. ?????

Pass GMA in what regards?

The old green 9.5s were updated to 10 recently when they updated the grading scale

[glassofwater]

Thanks for the tips, I signed up using the codes, Elite came out to 329, plus I have 300 in credit. I’m getting my 1st submission ready, any chance economy gets any cheaper than 10.80 in The next few days?

[BlockShotStop]

So many people ranting and raving in this thread just have the worst grammar. I don’t know why I should trust the opinions of people with only a tenuous grasp of the English language.

[thewesdub]

Originally Posted by Brwdot

There is just no positives to grading with CSG but tons of negatives.

Cool beans, bro.

Does anyone have some cards they've gotten back recently that they'd like to share?

[grade]

Originally Posted by mnckla22

Pass GMA in what regards?

The old green 9.5s were updated to 10 recently when they updated the grading scale

Check the certification look up, they 9.5 are 10s . I understand if the cards were slabbed with black labels , but CSG changed all green labels. Not good for sellers. The green labels do not match the cert look up.

Originally Posted by BlockShotStop

So many people ranting and raving in this thread just have the worst grammar. I don’t know why I should trust the opinions of people with only a tenuous grasp of the English language.

I dont have to have good grammmmmer, i dont have a boss , i own all my businesses. I am the boossse, everyone listens to me.
LOL

There i a guy in this thread that teaches business but never owned a business, but he posts very good stats from other sources and has great grammar . But he posts from work . Not a good trait for employers . You should follow his footsteps in life.

Originally Posted by thewesdub

Cool beans, bro.

Does anyone have some cards they've gotten back recently that they'd like to share?

Just was looking for slabs to crack.

[The_Reverend]

[grade]

Someone hates money.

[collective]

Originally Posted by The_Reverend

Nicely centered

[Brwdot]

lol both of those Bradys are pretty badly OC.

The Prizm has hardly any room at the top border. Look above the Prizm logo on the top right to the top of the card and then below the white strip with his name.

That prizm is about 30/70 top bottom at best. The Elite Series a little easier to see being off left to right.

Sadly this is the value of CSG now. They gotta hand out 10's right and left as they have for a few months minimum now. It's just a BCCG 10 Mint or better at this point. You get cheap grading for a 10, and for stuff like this it's the only way to make a quick buck. PSA at $18 you're gonna get an 8 or 9 and lose money.

Congrats on the quick money makers on those Bradys. Grading those types of cards is funny.

[The_Reverend]

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by glassofwater

Thanks for the tips, I signed up using the codes, Elite came out to 329, plus I have 300 in credit. I’m getting my 1st submission ready, any chance economy gets any cheaper than 10.80 in The next few days?

The coupon card worked twice??? You paid $99 for the one level with $150 credit and got elite for $230 with $150 credit? Pretty good deal if you plan on submitting 100 cards or over. It will pay for itself quickly with the extra 10% off.

No chance of a lower price this month. They are running a 20% off special right now. Could get lower later this year though. Looks like grading is going to struggle with PSA trying to grade 1 to 1.5 million cards a month.

[glassofwater]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

The coupon card worked twice??? You paid $99 for the one level with $150 credit and got elite for $230 with $150 credit? Pretty good deal if you plan on submitting 100 cards or over. It will pay for itself quickly with the extra 10% off.

No chance of a lower price this month. They are running a 20% off special right now. Could get lower later this year though. Looks like grading is going to struggle with PSA trying to grade 1 to 1.5 million cards a month.

Thanks for the feedback.

Yes someone mentioned to try it and worked. So i paid 99 for the Premium, with the code.

There is a link to upgrade to elite for 279, i applied the code again brought it down to 229. Total 330, with 300 credit, and free grading kit. If anyone who wants to try it works.

I'm doing my first submission right now, Maybe a black Friday special next month can bring it down even more?

[zdawgs]

Originally Posted by Brwdot

lol both of those Bradys are pretty badly OC.

The Prizm has hardly any room at the top border. Look above the Prizm logo on the top right to the top of the card and then below the white strip with his name.

That prizm is about 30/70 top bottom at best. The Elite Series a little easier to see being off left to right.

Sadly this is the value of CSG now. They gotta hand out 10's right and left as they have for a few months minimum now. It's just a BCCG 10 Mint or better at this point. You get cheap grading for a 10, and for stuff like this it's the only way to make a quick buck. PSA at $18 you're gonna get an 8 or 9 and lose money.

Congrats on the quick money makers on those Bradys. Grading those types of cards is funny.

Brew, you are lying again. Look at GemRate. It debunks your theory of CSG handling out 10s left & right. You called me a clown, but you are the one with the orange wig and red nose. I think your mom has breakfast ready for you so you better go upstairs and join your parents.

[grade]

One major reason CSG give less 10's is people send less quality cards to CSG. Why would anyone send a gem mint 10 canidate 1986 fleer jordan, 2000 brady rc ,etc to csg ?

CSG is just fine for lower value cards when it was under $10 to grade. But to save a couple of bucks to lose $100's or even $1000's in value cause of a slab with no frosted boarders just does not make financial sense.

I learned the hard way, saved a couple of bucks upfront in fees and cost $1000's if not $10,000's in value on the bottom line.

[zdawgs]

Originally Posted by grade

One major reason CSG give less 10's is people send less quality cards to CSG. Why would anyone send a gem mint 10 canidate 1986 fleer jordan, 2000 brady rc ,etc to csg ?

CSG is just fine for lower value cards when it was under $10 to grade. But to save a couple of bucks to lose $100's or even $1000's in value cause of a slab with no frosted boarders just does not make financial sense.

I learned the hard way, saved a couple of bucks upfront in fees and cost $1000's if not $10,000's in value on the bottom line.

Where's the proof of this? Sounds like an excuse for PSA in why they hand out more 10s than other companies. In my experience, CSG has graded the same cards harder in giving out 9.5s compared to the 10s that PSA hands out. Honestly, the 9.5 grade hurts CSG and SGC as people want 10s. That is why PSA is king......they hand out more 10s than the other companies because they don't have the 9.5 grade.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by zdawgs

Where's the proof of this? Sounds like an excuse for PSA in why they hand out more 10s than other companies. In my experience, CSG has graded the same cards harder in giving out 9.5s compared to the 10s that PSA hands out. Honestly, the 9.5 grade hurts CSG and SGC as people want 10s. That is why PSA is king......they hand out more 10s than the other companies because they don't have the 9.5 grade.

Grade logic, don't try to follow it. What percentage of the 1 million plus cards a month are cards like Jordan and Brady rookies? Around 800,000 of the cards submitted to PSA at the bulk rate are probably ultra-modern trash and raw cards worth $20 and less. Now at $15 bulk, people are sending in $2 Pokémon cards to get graded to try to Gem. That is where PSA's bread and butter is. Grade the under $5 raw card, put it in a PSA 10 slab, and the card goes up 50 times the value.

[collective]

Originally Posted by zdawgs

Brew, you are lying again. Look at GemRate. It debunks your theory of CSG handling out 10s left & right. You called me a clown, but you are the one with the orange wig and red nose. I think your mom has breakfast ready for you so you better go upstairs and join your parents.

There's no debate that CSG relaxed their grading scale after the label change. That's not the problem. The problem is they're slapping 10s on cards at a GMA rate. 10s with obvious flaws.